Patriot approach to this draft makes sense

[KG Living Legend]

 I'm not subscribing to the "this is a one stud draft" theory just yet, I love Ingram. There does seem to be quite a drop after two.

 Say we end up with the third pick, unless Danny is in love with someone at three it may be a good draft to move down pick up a player a little later and another future first and or player.

 We could come away with Dunn, Damion Jones, Bacon and Valentine. If we could come away with a package of players like this would you be interested in moving back.

 Bacon is the only young guy that could take some time, but positives are he has the size to play two and three and has potential go to guy Upside and a bug ISO scorer.

 Dunn would be in the mix at PG right away and he gives us two legit Point guards on the team.

 Jones is a junior and really looks the part of an NBA center. We resign Sully and Sign Batum and the roster for now looks like.

 Sullinger
 Crowder
 Batum
 Bradley
 Thomas

 Kelly Mickey Jones
 Young Hunter
 Bacon Valentine
 Smart Dunn Rozier

 Really young, same problem lack of stars, insanely deep and just a breakout player away from making a leap.
 
 
 

[obnoxiousmime]

I don't think we can take Dunn unless Smart or Thomas is going to be traded. Also, wouldn't it be giving up on Rozier? I know, it's important to get the BPA but PG is such a loaded position. Can we really afford to invest three first round picks in a row on PGs when it's not so hard to sign a good one in free agency/trade?

To extend your Patriots analogy, it's kind of like running backs. Someone might be the best running back in the draft in a given year but unless he's Adrian Peterson, he's not necessarily going to get picked early. Teams have decided that RBs simply aren't worth such a high investment anymore and that the difference between an expensive star back and a cheap decent one is bad bang for the buck.

Besides, trading back requires a willing trade partner. As we've found in years where the draft is perceived to be weak, it's not always that easy to trade back to the spot you would like. I remember before the atrocious Anthony Bennett draft (2013) Cleveland was looking for offers for the no 1. pick and didn't get anything to their liking, so they stayed put. It turns out that most teams were correct in their analyses that it wasn't a top-heavy draft.

[Celtics4ever]

We resign Sully and Sign Batum and the roster for now looks like.

I see the Celtics pulling a patriots and not signing Sullinger if he wants too much ala Wes Welker.

[mef730]

I've already started assuming Sully won't be back. Somebody will overpay him.

But I agree with the OP's assessment. By the time we get to the draft, there are always a few players that teams get giddy over. I don't think this is 2013, when there were no potential obvious potential stars. There are four or five players who have some real potential.

If somebody is going to overpay for that #3, I'm more than happy to do it.

Mike

[Donoghus]

The approaches to drafts are very different when it comes to NBA v. NFL.

If you have a top 5 pick in the NBA, you either use it or trade it for established talent, not more draft picks.   The talent gap is usually that great between a top tier pick and second & third tiers in the NBA. 

Also, the rosters are much smaller.  You don't need an abundance of draft picks.   The last thing the Celtics need to do right now is pick up more draft picks.

So, no, the Patriot approach doesn't apply here.   

[i believe in brad]

Everyone's saying we need to consolidate the roster and make a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1.  This would accomplish the complete opposite so no I don't want to do that.

I generally like that idea, it's just our current roster/collection of assets doesn't really allow for it at the moment.

[PhoSita]

If we take the "Patriot" approach to this draft, i.e. take a bunch of guys in the middle to later part of the draft and try to get by on depth, we'll simply have 7 or 8 guys on the roster next year with little to no NBA experience.

In other words, that'd be a good recipe for a tanking season, if that's what you want.

[Denis998]

Out of the players you listed, Dunn is a top 10 player by the end of the season. Valentine is only good right now because he is a grown man playing against 17 year old kids. Bacon would be a solid pick with our own pick in the 20s, his teammate actually goes to the same school im currently in. If out pick is in the top 5 range, there are still some good talents available, Brown, Skal, and Murray to name some.

[hpantazo]

The Patriots approach to the draft never makes sense in the NBA. Different system, different CBA, different talent levels and impact to the game altogether. In the NBA you do whatever it takes to get a top tier talent.

I think Bellicheck is a genius of a GM though, and I'd love to see how he would approach building a team in the NBA under the current system. He would probably take a totally different approach than what he does in the NFL, and could give Ainge some useful tips.

[BudweiserCeltic]

A team full of rookies and 2nd years isn't exactly "insanely deep"... we can begin with that.

[KG Living Legend]

 I did say pick plus and or player. It's hard to know who may be available for a top draft pick example Jrue Holiday, Noah Vonleh.

 

[boscel33]

I stay put and take Brown @ 3:

ESPN Analyst
Updated 05/27/2015
Strengths:
Brown is playing with a great sense of urgency and an improved motor to go along with his high level athleticism and college ready body. Brown is a highlight on the break and attacks the rim with power straight line drives where he finishes through contact with ease. He can defend both forward positions as well. Brown has continued to improve as a shooter. He has knocked down open threes, pull ups and floaters on a more consistent basis.
Weaknesses:
Brown will need to continue to work on being a more consistent shooter and extend his range in order to set up his excellent ability to attack the rim.
Bottom Line:
Brown is one of the most powerful wing players in the class. He is a high level finisher whether it is on the break or attacking from the wing in the halfcourt. Brown is an immediate major college contributor and possible starter. We love the direction in which his game is heading.

[loco_91]

In general I think it's a good strategy - people fall in love with a prospect and forget that it's tough to project translation after just 1 year of college. But for us, there's a limit to how many prospects we can develop. We need to be trying to trade up, if anything, and we should try to avoid drafting Kris Dunn unless he's clear BPA - otherwise we'll end up with a logjam at PG/SG like we have now at PF/C, and our prospects will lose value.

[Csfan1984]

I think part of Pat's draft strategy that works in the NBA is the trade out of draft plan in the lower slots. So use the Nets pick but flip own pick and Dallas picks for a future protected firsts similar to Dallas pick protection. In this way you don't lose the value of the pick but you don't have to worry about roster overload as C's still have a full roster and a lot of seconds to use this draft. Of course you let teams know your plan on this but only make the deals when you see who is available when picking. I'm surprised it rarely happens that teams trade out. Given the amount of picks and the roster size though C's may have to.

[jambr380]

Hopefully Adam Silver doesn't take away all of our first round picks even after being proven completely wrong over a ridiculous accusation/punishment levied against the team.

Yes, I am still totally upset over Goodell and him not relinquishing our picks.

Anyway, I agree with others. In football, there are so many more positions to fill; if we have the opportunity to draft a supposed star (or trade for one), then I am on board with that...unless Danny is really really sure about somebody and one of the extra draft picks is in the future, not this year.