Trade Sully while his value is perceived to be decent

[i believe in brad]

I can't really remember DA overpaying for a player yet. He also seems very unwilling to take high risks on a player who is out of shape. I think Sully goes this trade season for whatever DA thinks he can get that is close in value. He won't want to pay him and take risks that Sully isn't in shape,  which he isnt even right now. The guy is a load under the basket and a good rebounder but not sure that he brings much else that can't be replaced for lesser money.

Three words: Mark ******* Blount. But in fairness to Ainge, that was a long time ago and his track records been pretty solid since.

Blount was before Ainge.

Blount had two stints with the Celtics.  First being pre-Ainge.  The horrendous contract that is being referenced was signed in '04 under Ainge's watch was during his 2nd go-around.

Good call my bad.

[TheSundanceKid]

Again got outplayed by Tristant Thompson. Who is tired of seeing this happen?

He is running out of gas again. Pretty bad efficiency on the offensive end. Everything is from like 15-17 ft out

Does he deserve 12-13 million dollar a year for his next contract?

Danny should consider trading him soon

You have a knack to distort the facts and truth of the situation.

"Tired of being out played by Tristan Thompson"? You know who, if anyone, you should be tired of Tristan Thompson outplaying? Kelly Olynyk. But he's your binkie, so that can't happen. Both are in the 2nd unit, and by my observation Thompson was on the floor much of the time Lee/Olynyk were on the floor, not really Sullinger. By my calculations Thompson was 2 minutes or so total on the floor at the same time as Sullinger out of his 22 minutes.... and you're putting this on Sully? Give me a break.

Also, let's not forget it was Olynyk whose minutes and was removed from the active rotation in the playoffs precisely because he couldn't handle Thompson, couldn't guard him, couldn't box him out, couldn't rebound against him and was moved in favor of playing a rusty out of shape Sullinger.

So let's keep proper perspective on this particular regard. You can make your case without distorting the facts.

And yep, Sullinger is in a major shooting slump. Seems to happen around this year always for some reason, hopefully this doesn't keep up. He's been a monster in the glass though, and that's quite valuable. Not sure if this is a running out of gas issue given how much effort he's putting defensively and rebounding, but we'll see. Olynyk was in a major shooting slump recently as well, but now he's caught fire. I guess he was out of gas for a while as well. And he had a poor game as well last night (everyone had).

We'll see.

KO > Sullinger

How is there even a debate about this? In terms of who is in better shape, who is in a more friendly contract, who the team considers to be more valuable.

If KO could out rebound TT, he be near an all star.  KO like you said is a bench player.  But could score on TT at least

What can Sullinger do? He has to match rebound per rebound/rough play per rough play against TT or a similar player but can't. Because he is not going to do much damage on the offensive end (not a consistent shooter, will get blocked underneath the basket).

You want to keep him? And pay him 12-13 million per season? Do you want to trade KO? You see many are hesitant to trade KO for a reason.  His combination of height, skillsets, shooting ability are a rare find

Sully>KO, how is it even a debate?

In terms of court awareness, strength, offensive rebounding, defence, minutes played (See I can do that too...)

If KO could box out anyone it would be a start. I'm a Sully fan but I can see the potential rewards that Kelly can give if it all clicks. And he has improved in some areas. But he doesn't box out, his post defence isn't great and I get exasperated at the number of travels/charges he commits on the offensive end!! It's ridiculous!

What can Sully do for this team? He can bump with the bigger big men in the league. That's why he was put on Mozgov last night and that's why he was giving the starting nod over Zeller. People will continue to undervalue him but you'd miss him if he went believe me

[PhoSita]

Honestly I rather doubt his trade value is that high right now.  Look at what the Jazz were able to get for Kanter last year.  When everybody in the league knows you probably won't want to pay a guy what he's likely to ask, a RFA isn't going to fetch you much.

[littleteapot]

I don't think the C's need to make a move in the middle of the year, but Sullinger is the guy who makes the most sense in a move. It seems like he could contribute to a lot of teams  in the way he's contributing to our team, but it seems difficult/risky for us to keep him after this year. He will get paid like a starter in his next contract, and that really hurts if his weight/injuries catch up to him or even if you want to keep playing the C's fast-paced style but you sign a Marc Gasol style center.

[ssspence]

Honestly I rather doubt his trade value is that high right now.  Look at what the Jazz were able to get for Kanter last year.  When everybody in the league knows you probably won't want to pay a guy what he's likely to ask, a RFA isn't going to fetch you much.

Agreed. Sully on his own -- or as the cornerstone of a deal -- isn't going to get you jack. He'd need to packaged with another player or pick to deliver something tangible.

But he's worth more now than he will be when he gets worn down / injured again in January. Then he'll be a negative inclusion in any deal, be stuck on the Cs, and Ainge will have to deal with his RFA during the summer when he should be focused on other things.

[PhoSita]

Sully had a hot start to the year but after about a month and a half we've already reached a point where David Lee looks consistently better.  How long until Brad starts Lee and Amir together?

Just hard to fathom how Sully struggles to score with reasonable efficiency.  I guess he's just not quick enough or athletic enough, too many of his shots are jumpers.

[Evantime34]

Sully had a hot start to the year but after about a month and a half we've already reached a point where David Lee looks consistently better.  How long until Brad starts Lee and Amir together?

Just hard to fathom how Sully struggles to score with reasonable efficiency.  I guess he's just not quick enough or athletic enough, too many of his shots are jumpers.

Don't agree that Lee looks better. I think if anyone is going to replace Sullinger it will be Olynyk.

Sully struggles to score efficiently when he can't knock down jumpers because more often than not he is being guarded by bigger players who prevent him from scoring in the paint.

Sullinger's jumper will come around and he'll continue to kill teams without a true center on the glass. Until recently the offense has performed above average due in large part to their ability to get offensive rebounds, Sullinger is responsible for most a lot of those rebounds.

Last night, he didn't shoot well but he prevented the Cavs from killing the C's on the glass like they did in the playoffs last year.

[Tr1boy]

Sully had a hot start to the year but after about a month and a half we've already reached a point where David Lee looks consistently better.  How long until Brad starts Lee and Amir together?

Just hard to fathom how Sully struggles to score with reasonable efficiency.  I guess he's just not quick enough or athletic enough, too many of his shots are jumpers.

Lee looks better. And at least he can execute the pnr and score more than half the basket underneath the basket

Zbo is as slow as sully ,yet can score whichever he wants around the basket. Sully has no go to moves underneath the basket. And that sucks for him, for the team. Maybe a bit of this is a fault of CBS who looks like he doesn't care for down low play calling. Celts org not hiring a big man coach to train/help develop skills under the basket.

Whatever the case, sully is Tristant thompson but not even as good. Thompson, Draymond Green. Etc. Yet will be looking for similar pay as these guys.

[LooseCannon]

I'm okay with keeping him and letting him walk if someone signs him to a ridiculous offer sheet that shouldn't be matched.

[LooseCannon]

Maybe a bit of this is a fault of CBS who looks like he doesn't care for down low play calling.

That's one of the traits that makes him a good coach.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Again got outplayed by Tristant Thompson. Who is tired of seeing this happen?

He is running out of gas again. Pretty bad efficiency on the offensive end. Everything is from like 15-17 ft out

Does he deserve 12-13 million dollar a year for his next contract?

Danny should consider trading him soon

You have a knack to distort the facts and truth of the situation.

"Tired of being out played by Tristan Thompson"? You know who, if anyone, you should be tired of Tristan Thompson outplaying? Kelly Olynyk. But he's your binkie, so that can't happen. Both are in the 2nd unit, and by my observation Thompson was on the floor much of the time Lee/Olynyk were on the floor, not really Sullinger. By my calculations Thompson was 2 minutes or so total on the floor at the same time as Sullinger out of his 22 minutes.... and you're putting this on Sully? Give me a break.

Also, let's not forget it was Olynyk whose minutes and was removed from the active rotation in the playoffs precisely because he couldn't handle Thompson, couldn't guard him, couldn't box him out, couldn't rebound against him and was moved in favor of playing a rusty out of shape Sullinger.

So let's keep proper perspective on this particular regard. You can make your case without distorting the facts.

And yep, Sullinger is in a major shooting slump. Seems to happen around this year always for some reason, hopefully this doesn't keep up. He's been a monster in the glass though, and that's quite valuable. Not sure if this is a running out of gas issue given how much effort he's putting defensively and rebounding, but we'll see. Olynyk was in a major shooting slump recently as well, but now he's caught fire. I guess he was out of gas for a while as well. And he had a poor game as well last night (everyone had).

We'll see.

KO > Sullinger

How is there even a debate about this? In terms of who is in better shape, who is in a more friendly contract, who the team considers to be more valuable.

If KO could out rebound TT, he be near an all star.  KO like you said is a bench player.  But could score on TT at least

What can Sullinger do? He has to match rebound per rebound/rough play per rough play against TT or a similar player but can't. Because he is not going to do much damage on the offensive end (not a consistent shooter, will get blocked underneath the basket).

You want to keep him? And pay him 12-13 million per season? Do you want to trade KO? You see many are hesitant to trade KO for a reason.  His combination of height, skillsets, shooting ability are a rare find

This wasn't a KO vs. Sully debate. I was simply illustrating your bias towards KO as he's your binkie and your distortion of the facts and the truth of the matter.

That you don't think a debate even exists on Sullinger and KO furthers the point I was making.

[Csfan1984]

Sully, Turner, JJ and Dallas pick for Barnes and Thompson. Warriors are already getting use to life without Barnes let's take a shot.

[Tr1boy]

What about this trade idea

To clippers: sullinger, Zeller, Turner, 2 2nds(mid/late)
To Celtics: Smith, Stephenson, 2017 1st

Stephenson is under another bad fit - lac. Doc is a , you got a role type of coach which limits LS freedom.   Smith is not happy under LAC and still has capabilities to contribute (seen from last season).  The 1st is nice though may end up a late pick

Doc will limit Sullys 3 pt shooting ways and have him park his butt under neath the basket at both ends.  Good pf have off the bench or pair with either avg Iq players in Jordan/Griffin.

Turner like Smith is a throw in.

A lateral trade idea but could benefit both teams

[PhoSita]

Sully had a hot start to the year but after about a month and a half we've already reached a point where David Lee looks consistently better.  How long until Brad starts Lee and Amir together?

Just hard to fathom how Sully struggles to score with reasonable efficiency.  I guess he's just not quick enough or athletic enough, too many of his shots are jumpers.

Don't agree that Lee looks better. I think if anyone is going to replace Sullinger it will be Olynyk.

Sully struggles to score efficiently when he can't knock down jumpers because more often than not he is being guarded by bigger players who prevent him from scoring in the paint.

Sullinger's jumper will come around and he'll continue to kill teams without a true center on the glass. Until recently the offense has performed above average due in large part to their ability to get offensive rebounds, Sullinger is responsible for most a lot of those rebounds.

Last night, he didn't shoot well but he prevented the Cavs from killing the C's on the glass like they did in the playoffs last year.

Sully's been good on the boards, but between him and Amir the Celts just don't have enough scoring down low in the starting lineup.  Upgrade the scoring upfront without killing the spacing or the defense and the Celts would be really good.  Tough to do that, though.

[KingofDaPlayazBall]

Again got outplayed by Tristant Thompson. Who is tired of seeing this happen?

He is running out of gas again. Pretty bad efficiency on the offensive end. Everything is from like 15-17 ft out

Does he deserve 12-13 million dollar a year for his next contract?

Danny should consider trading him soon

This Post is retarded, trade KO if anybody, dude is softer than tissues and belongs in the WNBA.  Tough low post players like sully are hard to find in today nba, if we trade him who do you expect to rebound the ball for us, Kelly sissy ass Olynlyk?? David can't jump ass Lee?? Tyler frail ass Zeller??  Please think before you post, or it might come out retarded.