Trade Sully while his value is perceived to be decent

[Tr1boy]

Again got outplayed by Tristant Thompson. Who is tired of seeing this happen?

He is running out of gas again. Pretty bad efficiency on the offensive end. Everything is from like 15-17 ft out

Does he deserve 12-13 million dollar a year for his next contract?

Danny should consider trading him soon

[jambr380]

People were saying that he should get Tristan Thompson money, not just $12-13M. I don't know if Sully should be the one to go, but it would be nice to get value for some of our expiring (or almost expiring) players before they walk for nothing. We need upgrades wherever we can get them and if another team highly values Sully and Danny can get what he wants, then expect him to be traded.

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Sounds like a plan to me.

[Celtics17]

I can't really remember DA overpaying for a player yet. He also seems very unwilling to take high risks on a player who is out of shape. I think Sully goes this trade season for whatever DA thinks he can get that is close in value. He won't want to pay him and take risks that Sully isn't in shape,  which he isnt even right now. The guy is a load under the basket and a good rebounder but not sure that he brings much else that can't be replaced for lesser money.

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I can't really remember DA overpaying for a player yet. He also seems very unwilling to take high risks on a player who is out of shape. I think Sully goes this trade season for whatever DA thinks he can get that is close in value. He won't want to pay him and take risks that Sully isn't in shape,  which he isnt even right now. The guy is a load under the basket and a good rebounder but not sure that he brings much else that can't be replaced for lesser money.

Three words: Mark ******* Blount. But in fairness to Ainge, that was a long time ago and his track records been pretty solid since.

[Tr1boy]

I can't really remember DA overpaying for a player yet. He also seems very unwilling to take high risks on a player who is out of shape. I think Sully goes this trade season for whatever DA thinks he can get that is close in value. He won't want to pay him and take risks that Sully isn't in shape,  which he isnt even right now. The guy is a load under the basket and a good rebounder but not sure that he brings much else that can't be replaced for lesser money.

Danny I'm sure is eyeing the market right now. But nothing that fits is available.  Dhoward is not a player that makes sense for the team.  He is such a dirtbag anyways.  Just earning a paycheck, complaining instead of trying the best player he can be

Danny is not going to tell the world sully, Zeller are available

I wonder if Danny might pull a surprise trade and try to obtain a guy like Beal.

I wish Derozan was available

The issue with  guys that want out, unless they are vets from a bad team that want to win a championship, is that they are perceived as "complainers". Danny usually tries to avoid guys like that

Maybe try to trade with a team with surplus of sfs like the bucks or magic

[CFAN38]

I like Sully fit on this team but for the money he will command and the long term fears with his health and weight I think he must be traded. The big question is going to be who is interested in trading the Cs a worth while player in exchange for a package built around Sully?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Again got outplayed by Tristant Thompson. Who is tired of seeing this happen?

He is running out of gas again. Pretty bad efficiency on the offensive end. Everything is from like 15-17 ft out

Does he deserve 12-13 million dollar a year for his next contract?

Danny should consider trading him soon

You have a knack to distort the facts and truth of the situation.

"Tired of being out played by Tristan Thompson"? You know who, if anyone, you should be tired of Tristan Thompson outplaying? Kelly Olynyk. But he's your binkie, so that can't happen. Both are in the 2nd unit, and by my observation Thompson was on the floor much of the time Lee/Olynyk were on the floor, not really Sullinger. By my calculations Thompson was 2 minutes or so total on the floor at the same time as Sullinger out of his 22 minutes.... and you're putting this on Sully? Give me a break.

Also, let's not forget it was Olynyk whose minutes and was removed from the active rotation in the playoffs precisely because he couldn't handle Thompson, couldn't guard him, couldn't box him out, couldn't rebound against him and was moved in favor of playing a rusty out of shape Sullinger.

So let's keep proper perspective on this particular regard. You can make your case without distorting the facts.

And yep, Sullinger is in a major shooting slump. Seems to happen around this year always for some reason, hopefully this doesn't keep up. He's been a monster in the glass though, and that's quite valuable. Not sure if this is a running out of gas issue given how much effort he's putting defensively and rebounding, but we'll see. Olynyk was in a major shooting slump recently as well, but now he's caught fire. I guess he was out of gas for a while as well. And he had a poor game as well last night (everyone had).

We'll see.

[Tr1boy]

Again got outplayed by Tristant Thompson. Who is tired of seeing this happen?

He is running out of gas again. Pretty bad efficiency on the offensive end. Everything is from like 15-17 ft out

Does he deserve 12-13 million dollar a year for his next contract?

Danny should consider trading him soon

You have a knack to distort the facts and truth of the situation.

"Tired of being out played by Tristan Thompson"? You know who, if anyone, you should be tired of Tristan Thompson outplaying? Kelly Olynyk. But he's your binkie, so that can't happen. Both are in the 2nd unit, and by my observation Thompson was on the floor much of the time Lee/Olynyk were on the floor, not really Sullinger. By my calculations Thompson was 2 minutes or so total on the floor at the same time as Sullinger out of his 22 minutes.... and you're putting this on Sully? Give me a break.

Also, let's not forget it was Olynyk whose minutes and was removed from the active rotation in the playoffs precisely because he couldn't handle Thompson, couldn't guard him, couldn't box him out, couldn't rebound against him and was moved in favor of playing a rusty out of shape Sullinger.

So let's keep proper perspective on this particular regard. You can make your case without distorting the facts.

And yep, Sullinger is in a major shooting slump. Seems to happen around this year always for some reason, hopefully this doesn't keep up. He's been a monster in the glass though, and that's quite valuable. Not sure if this is a running out of gas issue given how much effort he's putting defensively and rebounding, but we'll see. Olynyk was in a major shooting slump recently as well, but now he's caught fire. I guess he was out of gas for a while as well. And he had a poor game as well last night (everyone had).

We'll see.

KO > Sullinger

How is there even a debate about this? In terms of who is in better shape, who is in a more friendly contract, who the team considers to be more valuable.

If KO could out rebound TT, he be near an all star.  KO like you said is a bench player.  But could score on TT at least

What can Sullinger do? He has to match rebound per rebound/rough play per rough play against TT or a similar player but can't. Because he is not going to do much damage on the offensive end (not a consistent shooter, will get blocked underneath the basket).

You want to keep him? And pay him 12-13 million per season? Do you want to trade KO? You see many are hesitant to trade KO for a reason.  His combination of height, skillsets, shooting ability are a rare find

[i believe in brad]

I can't really remember DA overpaying for a player yet. He also seems very unwilling to take high risks on a player who is out of shape. I think Sully goes this trade season for whatever DA thinks he can get that is close in value. He won't want to pay him and take risks that Sully isn't in shape,  which he isnt even right now. The guy is a load under the basket and a good rebounder but not sure that he brings much else that can't be replaced for lesser money.

Three words: Mark ******* Blount. But in fairness to Ainge, that was a long time ago and his track records been pretty solid since.

Blount was before Ainge.

[Rosco917]

Signed for the right price, Sully isn't a bad player. He can be an effective backup center, in a small ball lineup.
My problem with Sully is, he can't defend players other than certain centers. He's just to slow to deal with  elite bigs. On the offensive side, please just stop shooting the 3.

Team friendly contract, or trade him.

[Evantime34]

I'm completely on board with dealing Sullinger before the deadline so we don't have to pay him long term. I don't trust him at all to stay in shape once he signs a big contract.

The problem is, without Sullinger we suddenly become a very bad rebounding team. Long term though I think we can upgrade from Sullinger

[Donoghus]

I can't really remember DA overpaying for a player yet. He also seems very unwilling to take high risks on a player who is out of shape. I think Sully goes this trade season for whatever DA thinks he can get that is close in value. He won't want to pay him and take risks that Sully isn't in shape,  which he isnt even right now. The guy is a load under the basket and a good rebounder but not sure that he brings much else that can't be replaced for lesser money.

Three words: Mark ******* Blount. But in fairness to Ainge, that was a long time ago and his track records been pretty solid since.

Blount was before Ainge.

Blount had two stints with the Celtics.  First being pre-Ainge.  The horrendous contract that is being referenced was signed in '04 under Ainge's watch was during his 2nd go-around.

[jambr380]

Signed for the right price, Sully isn't a bad player. He can be an effective backup center, in a small ball lineup.
My problem with Sully is, he can't defend players other than certain centers. He's just to slow to deal with  elite bigs. On the offensive side, please just stop shooting the 3.

Team friendly contract, or trade him.

I really question his value around the league. If Ainge pulls something off with Sully as the centerpiece, then awesome, but I don't know that it will get to that point. His perceived value around CB for his next contract is in the $12-$16M /yr range, but what if he signs in the neighborhood of Crowder/Bradley - people would be quite happy with that, right?

I just think that other GMs will question Sully's weight, injury potential, and consistency when it really comes down to making him a centerpiece on their team.

[BitterJim]

Again got outplayed by Tristant Thompson. Who is tired of seeing this happen?

He is running out of gas again. Pretty bad efficiency on the offensive end. Everything is from like 15-17 ft out

Does he deserve 12-13 million dollar a year for his next contract?

Danny should consider trading him soon

You have a knack to distort the facts and truth of the situation.

"Tired of being out played by Tristan Thompson"? You know who, if anyone, you should be tired of Tristan Thompson outplaying? Kelly Olynyk. But he's your binkie, so that can't happen. Both are in the 2nd unit, and by my observation Thompson was on the floor much of the time Lee/Olynyk were on the floor, not really Sullinger. By my calculations Thompson was 2 minutes or so total on the floor at the same time as Sullinger out of his 22 minutes.... and you're putting this on Sully? Give me a break.

Also, let's not forget it was Olynyk whose minutes and was removed from the active rotation in the playoffs precisely because he couldn't handle Thompson, couldn't guard him, couldn't box him out, couldn't rebound against him and was moved in favor of playing a rusty out of shape Sullinger.

So let's keep proper perspective on this particular regard. You can make your case without distorting the facts.

And yep, Sullinger is in a major shooting slump. Seems to happen around this year always for some reason, hopefully this doesn't keep up. He's been a monster in the glass though, and that's quite valuable. Not sure if this is a running out of gas issue given how much effort he's putting defensively and rebounding, but we'll see. Olynyk was in a major shooting slump recently as well, but now he's caught fire. I guess he was out of gas for a while as well. And he had a poor game as well last night (everyone had).

We'll see.

KO > Sullinger

How is there even a debate about this? In terms of who is in better shape, who is in a more friendly contract, who the team considers to be more valuable.

If KO could out rebound TT, he be near an all star.  KO like you said is a bench player.  But could score on TT at least

What can Sullinger do? He has to match rebound per rebound/rough play per rough play against TT or a similar player but can't. Because he is not going to do much damage on the offensive end (not a consistent shooter, will get blocked underneath the basket).

You want to keep him? And pay him 12-13 million per season? Do you want to trade KO? You see many are hesitant to trade KO for a reason.  His combination of height, skillsets, shooting ability are a rare find

If KO is indisputably better than Sully, than why does he start over him?  Why was an out of shape and rusty Sully in the rotation over KO in the playoffs?

Also, wanting to keep Sully and wanting to keep KO aren't mutually exlusive