Trade Sully while his value is perceived to be decent

[BudweiserCeltic]

No one will give anything up for that fat tub of goo. I mean he's an okay role player so maybe a mid second rounder but that's it. He can't even start over a bust of a pick in KO. Should have drafted Greek Freak. Sad that this team has a GM that doesn't like foreign players or at least taking those players early.

I might have missed something here.

Sully - 23 starts
KO - 0 starts

Let me help:

Sully - not a PF
KO - not a C

I'll help as well. Amir also plays C for us, so Olynyk could easily replace Sullinger by Stevens by simply rotating Amir over. So the distinction is not that important in my view if Stevens thought KO warranted more playing time and was better than Sullinger this season so far. I don't think the distinction you're making is all that important.

[wdleehi]

No one will give anything up for that fat tub of goo. I mean he's an okay role player so maybe a mid second rounder but that's it. He can't even start over a bust of a pick in KO. Should have drafted Greek Freak. Sad that this team has a GM that doesn't like foreign players or at least taking those players early.

I might have missed something here.

Sully - 23 starts
KO - 0 starts

Let me help:

Sully - not a PF
KO - not a C

And that has what to do with pointing out the flaws in this statement?

He can't even start over a bust of a pick in KO

[wdleehi]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

[Tr1boy]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

[Donoghus]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

List them.  The realistic ones.

[wdleehi]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

List your near double double guys.  Please.

[littleteapot]

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

Dirk and Chris Bosh (though they aren't for sale). Channing Frye and Spencer Hawes have both signed to affordable free agent deals in the past 2 years. I think Teletovic and Ryan Anderson play as big as Olynyk despite being a bit shorter.

[spikelovetheCelts]

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

Dirk and Chris Bosh (though they aren't for sale). Channing Frye and Spencer Hawes have both signed to affordable free agent deals in the past 2 years. I think Teletovic and Ryan Anderson play as big as Olynyk despite being a bit shorter.

KO is better than all three.

[kozlodoev]

No one will give anything up for that fat tub of goo. I mean he's an okay role player so maybe a mid second rounder but that's it. He can't even start over a bust of a pick in KO. Should have drafted Greek Freak. Sad that this team has a GM that doesn't like foreign players or at least taking those players early.

I might have missed something here.

Sully - 23 starts
KO - 0 starts

Let me help:

Sully - not a PF
KO - not a C

I'll help as well. Amir also plays C for us, so Olynyk could easily replace Sullinger by Stevens by simply rotating Amir over. So the distinction is not that important in my view if Stevens thought KO warranted more playing time and was better than Sullinger this season so far. I don't think the distinction you're making is all that important.

If Johnson at C was a sustainable solution, Sullinger would have never found himself in the starting lineup. The answer is simple, it isn't.

[Tr1boy]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

List your near double double guys.  Please.

Y double double? Lots of pfs can be double double guys with enough mins. Or per 36

Patrick Patterson
Speights
Seraphin
Hickson
Ezeli
Mahinmi
Baynes
T. Jones
Etc.

[wdleehi]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

List your near double double guys.  Please.

Y double double? Lots of pfs can be double double guys with enough mins. Or per 36

Patrick Patterson
Speights
Seraphin
Hickson
Ezeli
Mahinmi
Baynes
T. Jones
Etc.

No, I mean guys that are actually doing it.   

[BudweiserCeltic]

No one will give anything up for that fat tub of goo. I mean he's an okay role player so maybe a mid second rounder but that's it. He can't even start over a bust of a pick in KO. Should have drafted Greek Freak. Sad that this team has a GM that doesn't like foreign players or at least taking those players early.

I might have missed something here.

Sully - 23 starts
KO - 0 starts

Let me help:

Sully - not a PF
KO - not a C

I'll help as well. Amir also plays C for us, so Olynyk could easily replace Sullinger by Stevens by simply rotating Amir over. So the distinction is not that important in my view if Stevens thought KO warranted more playing time and was better than Sullinger this season so far. I don't think the distinction you're making is all that important.

If Johnson at C was a sustainable solution, Sullinger would have never found himself in the starting lineup. The answer is simple, it isn't.

Yeah, I'd say that's a misguided notion considering that Sullinger is the big who's been playing the most minutes so far for this team, considering Stevens pairs Lee/Olynyk off the bench (with little thought apparently on who plays Center).

I think evidence suggest that the most likely reason behind Sullinger starting over Olynyk (and playing more as it is) is that Stevens thinks Amir and Sullinger are his best two bigs so far in the season period. If it was a simple matter of "fit" for the starting spot there wouldn't be the gap of 6.5 minutes per game between Sullinger and Olynyk (which includes the 37 minute OT outlier from Olynyk). All of this with clear evidence that Olynyk has been a big binkie of Stevens since he got into the league.

If Olynyk at PF was a sustainable solution, he would've found himself in the starting line-up. The answer is simple, he isn't.

[Tr1boy]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

List your near double double guys.  Please.

Y double double? Lots of pfs can be double double guys with enough mins. Or per 36

Patrick Patterson
Speights
Seraphin
Hickson
Ezeli
Mahinmi
Baynes
T. Jones
Etc.

No, I mean guys that are actually doing it.

Why? Do you know how many mins and how many shots sully throws up in comparison to some of the guys on the list

Patrick Patterson is a near double double guy . T Jones, mahimi etc. These guys play less min in general

Sullinger is not a special pf.  If that's what you think he is. Matter of fact with the mins he plays and fg percent he is an inefficient offensive player.   

[BudweiserCeltic]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

List your near double double guys.  Please.

Y double double? Lots of pfs can be double double guys with enough mins. Or per 36

Patrick Patterson
Speights
Seraphin
Hickson
Ezeli
Mahinmi
Baynes
T. Jones
Etc.

No, I mean guys that are actually doing it.

Why? Do you know how many mins and how many shots sully throws up in comparison to some of the guys on the list

Patrick Patterson is a near double double guy . T Jones, mahimi etc. These guys play less min in general

Sullinger is not a special pf.  If that's what you think he is. Matter of fact with the mins he plays and fg percent he is an inefficient offensive player.   

You're aware that Olynyk's FG% is the same as Sullinger's this season correct?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Both players have a role on the team at the moment.



Both player can be replaced.


Both players could be part of a package to bring back a player superior to those two.   (I really hope this happens)

I can list a handful of players that can replace sully and his big azz.

Who can replace KO? List me some 7footers that can shoot the three

List your near double double guys.  Please.

Y double double? Lots of pfs can be double double guys with enough mins. Or per 36

Patrick Patterson
Speights
Seraphin
Hickson
Ezeli
Mahinmi
Baynes
T. Jones
Etc.

No, I mean guys that are actually doing it.

Why? Do you know how many mins and how many shots sully throws up in comparison to some of the guys on the list

Patrick Patterson is a near double double guy . T Jones, mahimi etc. These guys play less min in general

Sullinger is not a special pf.  If that's what you think he is. Matter of fact with the mins he plays and fg percent he is an inefficient offensive player.   

I'm not sure if at PER 36 I'd call Patrick Patterson's 7 rebounds and 9 points a near double double guy. And all the talk of efficiency, he's at 38% from the field.

And even if they'd be technically a double double, say a 10-10 guy per 36, you'd still have Sullinger grabbing 4 more rebounds and scoring 4 more points than them. So what's the worth of a "near" double double guy at the per 36 range when you have Sully playing quite above that?