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2016 darkhorse pick: Alex Poythress - Can CBS help?
« on: October 24, 2015, 12:50:12 PM »

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The good

- Incredible size, explosiveness, strength for a SF/PF.  Has a similar body and physical tools to Lebron
- Versatile active defender.  Good rebounder and decent shot blocker
- Lacks above average offensive skills but can score in many ways just by utilizing his physical tools
- Effort is there

The bad
- lacks above average offensive skills - below average handles, shooting stroke, lacks back to basket moves
- defensively can lose focus of his man (tries to do too much at once)
- mediocre to below avg IQ
- Time is running out - Already a senior

Poythress may never be a superstar but maybe he could turn out to be like a Iguadala if he can "tighten" up his game.   Just keep working on his handles, especially improve going left, tweak his shooting mechanic.  He doesn't even have to turn out to be an amazing ball handler (just turnover the ball less), doesn't have to be a lights out shooter (just make the open shot). Lastly improve his focus on the offensive end. 

Not stating to use any of our 1st on Poythress, unless he has a pretty good season after coming back from an injury.    But could be a good prospect to choose in the 2nd round, and try to turn him into a 1st round talent. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhrsKFOz5GE

Re: 2016 darkhorse pick: Alex Poythress - Can CBS help?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2015, 01:04:40 PM »

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The good

- Incredible size, explosiveness, strength for a SF/PF.  Has a similar body and physical tools to Lebron
- Versatile active defender.  Good rebounder and decent shot blocker
- Lacks above average offensive skills but can score in many ways just by utilizing his physical tools
- Effort is there

The bad
- lacks above average offensive skills - below average handles, shooting stroke, lacks back to basket moves
- defensively can lose focus of his man (tries to do too much at once)
- mediocre to below avg IQ
- Time is running out - Already a senior

Poythress may never be a superstar but maybe he could turn out to be like a Iguadala if he can "tighten" up his game.   Just keep working on his handles, especially improve going left, tweak his shooting mechanic.  He doesn't even have to turn out to be an amazing ball handler (just turnover the ball less), doesn't have to be a lights out shooter (just make the open shot). Lastly improve his focus on the offensive end. 

Not stating to use any of our 1st on Poythress, unless he has a pretty good season after coming back from an injury.    But could be a good prospect to choose in the 2nd round, and try to turn him into a 1st round talent. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhrsKFOz5GE
thanks, but it would have been nice if you had also mentioned his school, height, weight, and some other stats. and are you saying celtics should invest a draft pick in him next year?
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Re: 2016 darkhorse pick: Alex Poythress - Can CBS help?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2015, 01:57:21 PM »

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The good

- Incredible size, explosiveness, strength for a SF/PF.  Has a similar body and physical tools to Lebron
- Versatile active defender.  Good rebounder and decent shot blocker
- Lacks above average offensive skills but can score in many ways just by utilizing his physical tools
- Effort is there

The bad
- lacks above average offensive skills - below average handles, shooting stroke, lacks back to basket moves
- defensively can lose focus of his man (tries to do too much at once)
- mediocre to below avg IQ
- Time is running out - Already a senior

Poythress may never be a superstar but maybe he could turn out to be like a Iguadala if he can "tighten" up his game.   Just keep working on his handles, especially improve going left, tweak his shooting mechanic.  He doesn't even have to turn out to be an amazing ball handler (just turnover the ball less), doesn't have to be a lights out shooter (just make the open shot). Lastly improve his focus on the offensive end. 

Not stating to use any of our 1st on Poythress, unless he has a pretty good season after coming back from an injury.    But could be a good prospect to choose in the 2nd round, and try to turn him into a 1st round talent. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhrsKFOz5GE
thanks, but it would have been nice if you had also mentioned his school, height, weight, and some other stats. and are you saying celtics should invest a draft pick in him next year?

6'9", 245 pounds, 7'0" wingspan, close to 9'0" reach. Kentucky
Stats is underwhelming so far

Yes the Celts should consider.  Likely with a 2nd round pick unless he plays really well this upcoming season.

Like I said , the guy has a body and physical tools like Lebron. Won't ever be as good but if he can tighten up his game , he could be a force

Re: 2016 darkhorse pick: Alex Poythress - Can CBS help?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2015, 02:30:23 PM »

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thanks and a tp.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2015, 03:05:52 PM »

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If a pick is used on Poythress, he will be following the Colton Iverson path.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2015, 03:12:48 PM »

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If a pick is used on Poythress, he will be following the Colton Iverson path.

and that may not be a bad thing. Though Iverson is probably p---ed off right now and won't be back for trainning camp next season. 

Though not being picked for the third time probably has made him a much more aggressive and that is why he is playing really well overseas


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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2015, 03:17:50 PM »

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With all the second rounders the C's have, Wyc and co should buy a euro team explicitly to draft and stash players.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 06:40:22 PM »

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With all the second rounders the C's have, Wyc and co should buy a euro team explicitly to draft and stash players.

I think the NBA needs to allow rosters to be expanded, to say 17 players, so that it can assist in player development at the D League level. This would also help account for injuries throughout the season while also allowing teams to develop more project types.

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2015, 06:47:03 PM »

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The good

- Incredible size, explosiveness, strength for a SF/PF.  Has a similar body and physical tools to Lebron
- Versatile active defender.  Good rebounder and decent shot blocker
- Lacks above average offensive skills but can score in many ways just by utilizing his physical tools
- Effort is there

The bad
- lacks above average offensive skills - below average handles, shooting stroke, lacks back to basket moves
- defensively can lose focus of his man (tries to do too much at once)
- mediocre to below avg IQ
- Time is running out - Already a senior

Poythress may never be a superstar but maybe he could turn out to be like a Iguadala if he can "tighten" up his game.   Just keep working on his handles, especially improve going left, tweak his shooting mechanic.  He doesn't even have to turn out to be an amazing ball handler (just turnover the ball less), doesn't have to be a lights out shooter (just make the open shot). Lastly improve his focus on the offensive end. 

Not stating to use any of our 1st on Poythress, unless he has a pretty good season after coming back from an injury.    But could be a good prospect to choose in the 2nd round, and try to turn him into a 1st round talent. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhrsKFOz5GE
thanks, but it would have been nice if you had also mentioned his school, height, weight, and some other stats. and are you saying celtics should invest a draft pick in him next year?
Yes the Celts should consider.  Likely with a 2nd round pick unless he plays really well this upcoming season.

Like I said , the guy has a body and physical tools like Lebron. Won't ever be as good but if he can tighten up his game , he could be a force be the 15th man on a roster.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 06:48:31 PM »

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With all the second rounders the C's have, Wyc and co should buy a euro team explicitly to draft and stash players.

I think the NBA needs to allow rosters to be expanded, to say 17 players, so that it can assist in player development at the D League level. This would also help account for injuries throughout the season while also allowing teams to develop more project types.

I disagree. 15 is plenty for a team to work with.  10 usually play on a regular basis and 3-4 are "emergency guys/rookies".

The league won't change this just because the Celtics have alot of picks to deal with and worse case can't make a deal to turn it into one better pick

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2015, 06:55:19 PM »

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With all the second rounders the C's have, Wyc and co should buy a euro team explicitly to draft and stash players.

I think the NBA needs to allow rosters to be expanded, to say 17 players, so that it can assist in player development at the D League level. This would also help account for injuries throughout the season while also allowing teams to develop more project types.



I disagree. 15 is plenty for a team to work with.  10 usually play on a regular basis and 3-4 are "emergency guys/rookies".

The league won't change this just because the Celtics have alot of picks to deal with and worse case can't make a deal to turn it into one better pick

That's not why I'm saying this. It's no secret that the eventual plan is to have every NBA team have a D-League team. Having 17 guys on a roster, with a few guys playing in the D-League the entire year/being an emergency call up could be productive. As it stands, if you have injuries you're at the league's discretion whether to they give you an extra roster spot or not.

Let's take the Pelicans for example. These are their injuries and the season hasn't started.

Tyreke Evans      G/F   Sidelined   Oct 16   knee   Targeting Christmas
Luke Babbitt      F   Sidelined   Oct 15   hamstring   Out indefinitely
Norris Cole      G   Sidelined   Oct 12   ankle   Out indefinitely
Alexis Ajinca      C   Sidelined   Aug 27   hamstring   Targeting early/mid November
Quincy Pondexter   G/F   Sidelined   Jul 28   knee   Targeting November
Omer Asik              C   Sidelined   Jul 25   calf   Targeting late-October

So they'll be going with 9 guys.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2015, 07:07:36 PM by Eddie20 »

Re: 2016 darkhorse pick: Alex Poythress - Can CBS help?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2015, 03:40:48 AM »

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My Dad raised me a Kentucky fan, and even when I went to Ole Miss I have kept up with them. Love Poythress' motor and is great at rebounding. Little worried about who he guards at the next level whether he is big enough to guard the 4 or has the lateral quickness for the 3. Like others have said he isn't great at offense,  he seems to have been working on his corner 3 though. Is be fine taking a 2nd round flyer on any guy with his work ethic.

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With all the second rounders the C's have, Wyc and co should buy a euro team explicitly to draft and stash players.

Not sure if this is a serious, or even feasible, suggestion, but it is fascinating.  Many top pro football (soccer) clubs have essentially done this.  A Euro club primarily stocked with young Celtics prospects, might even prove to be profitabe (maybe Wyc's "inner entrepreneur" would respond to this!). 

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2015, 04:39:32 AM »

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Alex Poythress is an intriguing prospect to say the least. He actually played very well in the 2012-13 season, but everything went downhill beyond that season given that Kentucky managed to recruit Randle, Young and the Harrison brothers.
Taking into consideration that we have 8(!) picks in the upcomming draft; I wouldn't mind if one of them was used on Poythress. But then again, I think it's highly unlikely that Ainge will keep all of the picks and especially the 4 we have in the second round of the draft. Time will tell ::)
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