The official 2015-2016 Dallas Mavericks season watch thread

[Ilikesports17]

Tomorrow Suns vs Jazz is basically a win/win.  We need the Jazz to win games and we need the Suns to win games.

The LarBrd I know would have called it a lose/lose

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Tomorrow Suns vs Jazz is basically a win/win.  We need the Jazz to win games and we need the Suns to win games.

The LarBrd I know would have called it a lose/lose

he saw the light? 

[hwangjini_1]

here is a very interesting breakdown of the remaining games/opponents for the mavs. this is not my work but done by amfox1 over on Sosh.

simply put, the chances of the mavs dropping out of the playoffs is not inconsequential.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/celtics-draft-pick-watch-2016.11764/page-12
____

Updated as of 3/17am:

DAL and HOU remain tied for 7th/8th spot in West, with POR 1.0 GA and UTA 1.5 GB. POR has picked up 0.5 games and UTA has picked up 1.5 games on DAL/HOU since my last post.

Remaining schedules:
POR (14) - DAL(x2), SAC(x2), OKC, LAC, SA, GS, PHI, MIN, NO, BOS, MIA, DEN
HOU (14) - MIN(x2), OKC(x2), TOR, CLE, UTA, DAL, PHX, LAL, SAC, ATL, IND, CHI
DAL (14) - POR(x2), GS(x2), LAC, SA, HOU, UTA, SAC, MIN, MEM, DEN, NYK, DET
UTA (15) - PHX(x2), MIN(x2), LAL(x2), DAL, HOU, SA, GS, LAC, OKC, DEN, MIL, CHI

Red is games vs. .600+ teams. Blue is games vs. .400- teams.

Each team has four games left versus the .600+ teams. However, DAL has only two against the sub-.400 teams, while POR/HOU has five and UTA has six versus the sub-.400 teams. DAL plays the other "contenders" four times, so its future is in its own hands, but it is certainly possible for DAL to fall out of the playoffs. Note that the remaining DAL-UTA game on April 11 would decide the tiebreaker between the two teams.

[chilidawg]

538's projections have the Mavs with a 41% chance of making the playoffs, finishing at 40-42.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nba-picks/

[hwangjini_1]

watching the mavs pick is almost as much fun as watching the brooklyn pick these days.

the celtics will make the playoffs and still possibly have two lottery picks. very nice year.

[Neurotic Guy]

here is a very interesting breakdown of the remaining games/opponents for the mavs. this is not my work but done by amfox1 over on Sosh.

simply put, the chances of the mavs dropping out of the playoffs is not inconsequential.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/celtics-draft-pick-watch-2016.11764/page-12
____

Updated as of 3/17am:

DAL and HOU remain tied for 7th/8th spot in West, with POR 1.0 GA and UTA 1.5 GB. POR has picked up 0.5 games and UTA has picked up 1.5 games on DAL/HOU since my last post.

Remaining schedules:
POR (14) - DAL(x2), SAC(x2), OKC, LAC, SA, GS, PHI, MIN, NO, BOS, MIA, DEN
HOU (14) - MIN(x2), OKC(x2), TOR, CLE, UTA, DAL, PHX, LAL, SAC, ATL, IND, CHI
DAL (14) - POR(x2), GS(x2), LAC, SA, HOU, UTA, SAC, MIN, MEM, DEN, NYK, DET
UTA (15) - PHX(x2), MIN(x2), LAL(x2), DAL, HOU, SA, GS, LAC, OKC, DEN, MIL, CHI

Red is games vs. .600+ teams. Blue is games vs. .400- teams.

Each team has four games left versus the .600+ teams. However, DAL has only two against the sub-.400 teams, while POR/HOU has five and UTA has six versus the sub-.400 teams. DAL plays the other "contenders" four times, so its future is in its own hands, but it is certainly possible for DAL to fall out of the playoffs. Note that the remaining DAL-UTA game on April 11 would decide the tiebreaker between the two teams.

Wow -- Utah with a brutal stretch after the Dallas game. Houston, SA, GS, LAC, OKC.  And this happens just as Dallas' schedule eases up.    So the next 6 games really need to put Dallas in deep hole (I'd say at least 3 games behind Utah).  If not, 2nd lottery pick seems doubtful.

[Lucky17]

Is there much difference in terms of draft tiers between picking at #14 and #16?

If the Mavs miss the playoffs, that gives them a chance to keep the pick. Not sure why Celtics fans would be rooting for a chance for that to happen.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Is there much difference in terms of draft tiers between picking at #14 and #16?

If the Mavs miss the playoffs, that gives them a chance to keep the pick. Not sure why Celtics fans would be rooting for a chance for that to happen.

Just for fun, I'd say:

Tier 1: Simmons / Ingram in a dead heat

Tier 2: Brown, Bender & Dunn

Tier 3: Hield, Murray, Ellenson, Poeltl & Labissiere

(so that's the top 10)

Then:

Tier 4: Luwawu, D Jackson, Rabb, Diamond Stone, Damian Jones

Tier 5: Deyonta Davis, Wade Baldwin, Korkmaz, Valentine, Taurean Prince

So nah, not really.  The only thing with 14 is you could see one of the Tier 3 guys maybe sliding there, but it's still kind of unlikely.  Also, Luwawu is basically a tier unto himself, but that doesn't mean Danny will even pick him if he's there at 14.  I just think he's going to at least be like Batum is now.

[rondofan1255]

here is a very interesting breakdown of the remaining games/opponents for the mavs. this is not my work but done by amfox1 over on Sosh.

simply put, the chances of the mavs dropping out of the playoffs is not inconsequential.

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/celtics-draft-pick-watch-2016.11764/page-12
____

Updated as of 3/17am:

DAL and HOU remain tied for 7th/8th spot in West, with POR 1.0 GA and UTA 1.5 GB. POR has picked up 0.5 games and UTA has picked up 1.5 games on DAL/HOU since my last post.

Remaining schedules:
POR (14) - DAL(x2), SAC(x2), OKC, LAC, SA, GS, PHI, MIN, NO, BOS, MIA, DEN
HOU (14) - MIN(x2), OKC(x2), TOR, CLE, UTA, DAL, PHX, LAL, SAC, ATL, IND, CHI
DAL (14) - POR(x2), GS(x2), LAC, SA, HOU, UTA, SAC, MIN, MEM, DEN, NYK, DET
UTA (15) - PHX(x2), MIN(x2), LAL(x2), DAL, HOU, SA, GS, LAC, OKC, DEN, MIL, CHI

Red is games vs. .600+ teams. Blue is games vs. .400- teams.

Each team has four games left versus the .600+ teams. However, DAL has only two against the sub-.400 teams, while POR/HOU has five and UTA has six versus the sub-.400 teams. DAL plays the other "contenders" four times, so its future is in its own hands, but it is certainly possible for DAL to fall out of the playoffs. Note that the remaining DAL-UTA game on April 11 would decide the tiebreaker between the two teams.

Wow -- Utah with a brutal stretch after the Dallas game. Houston, SA, GS, LAC, OKC.  And this happens just as Dallas' schedule eases up.    So the next 6 games really need to put Dallas in deep hole (I'd say at least 3 games behind Utah).  If not, 2nd lottery pick seems doubtful.

No, Utah vs. Dal is the next-to-last game of the season for Utah on April 11. 

[chambers]

1.5 games separate the 17th pick from the 12th pick.

34-34 HOU
34-34 DAL 0.0GB
34-34 DET 0.0
33-33 CHI 0.0
32-35 UTA 1.5
32-35 WAS 1.5

With Chicago about to beat the Nets.

[trickybilly]

Is there much difference in terms of draft tiers between picking at #14 and #16?

If the Mavs miss the playoffs, that gives them a chance to keep the pick. Not sure why Celtics fans would be rooting for a chance for that to happen.

Just for fun, I'd say:

Tier 1: Simmons / Ingram in a dead heat

Tier 2: Brown, Bender & Dunn

Tier 3: Hield, Murray, Ellenson, Poeltl & Labissiere

(so that's the top 10)

Then:

Tier 4: Luwawu, D Jackson, Rabb, Diamond Stone, Damian Jones

Tier 5: Deyonta Davis, Wade Baldwin, Korkmaz, Valentine, Taurean Prince

So nah, not really.  The only thing with 14 is you could see one of the Tier 3 guys maybe sliding there, but it's still kind of unlikely.  Also, Luwawu is basically a tier unto himself, but that doesn't mean Danny will even pick him if he's there at 14.  I just think he's going to at least be like Batum is now.

[greece66]

Is there much difference in terms of draft tiers between picking at #14 and #16?

If the Mavs miss the playoffs, that gives them a chance to keep the pick. Not sure why Celtics fans would be rooting for a chance for that to happen.

Just for fun, I'd say:

Tier 1: Simmons / Ingram in a dead heat

Tier 2: Brown, Bender & Dunn

Tier 3: Hield, Murray, Ellenson, Poeltl & Labissiere

(so that's the top 10)

Then:

Tier 4: Luwawu, D Jackson, Rabb, Diamond Stone, Damian Jones

Tier 5: Deyonta Davis, Wade Baldwin, Korkmaz, Valentine, Taurean Prince

So nah, not really.  The only thing with 14 is you could see one of the Tier 3 guys maybe sliding there, but it's still kind of unlikely.  Also, Luwawu is basically a tier unto himself, but that doesn't mean Danny will even pick him if he's there at 14.  I just think he's going to at least be like Batum is now.

[rondofan1255]

Dallas loses as expected and is now 34-35. Now only a half game up on Utah (33-35).

Pistons, Blazers and Rockets all win (all have 34 losses). 

[libermaniac]

Dallas loses as expected and is now 34-35. Now only a half game up on Utah (33-35).

Pistons, Blazers and Rockets all win (all have 34 losses). 

:-)  Good day for draft slotting!  Bad day for C's.  But, C's take 3 of next 4, book it!

[Roy H.]

Is there much difference in terms of draft tiers between picking at #14 and #16?

If the Mavs miss the playoffs, that gives them a chance to keep the pick. Not sure why Celtics fans would be rooting for a chance for that to happen.

There will be a difference between the 14th best and 16th best player taken. That doesn't mean that the draft will go in optimal order, but if it does, I'd want the better chance.

If the pick gets deferred to next year's supposedly better draft, so be it.