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Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2015, 10:49:07 AM »

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I'll add to the chorus of Bennet. Though I don't think either is worth a roster spot to search for that potential at this point, but I undertand those who think they are.

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2015, 11:57:35 AM »

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I'll add to the chorus of Bennet. Though I don't think either is worth a roster spot to search for that potential at this point, but I undertand those who think they are.
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Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2015, 12:27:16 PM »

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Bennett may have more potential, but for our purposes, I may hold onto PJIII over Bennety if given a choice. Right now the team could use a purer wing than a swing/big like Bennett.

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2015, 12:53:31 PM »

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I'll say Jones. Strictly on potential, Jones could do anything if he ever figured it out. After 2 seasons, I'm not sure where Bennett fits in if he's an undersized PF who can't shoot from deep. But I haven't watched a ton of him and he's still a 22 year old former #1 pick. But that wasn't enough for Minnesota to want to hang on to him.

So I'm going with the homer pick and saying Jones, even if he might not be on the roster in a month.
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Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2015, 09:06:32 PM »

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Thanks for all the responses.  The endless search for a rim protector or at least a tall defender goes on.  Seems like to me from the discussion that Perry Jones III being a 7 foot small forward would be a more valuable risk to take than what some described as another shortish power forward.

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2015, 10:28:12 PM »

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Jones.

At least he has an excuse for having poor stats (bring buried behind a superstar on team that competes every year).  Not everyone accepts that excuse, but it is a legit excuse that can carry a debate.  Plus in the one year where his team wasn't a clear contender (last year) he managed a couple of pretty impressive games, so at least he's shown he is capable of it.

Bennett on the other hand has played for bottom-of-the-barrel lottery teams teams every year so far, and he's still struggled to get playing time or to make any kind if impact.  That's bad.  That's real bad.
I'm not sure Jones has an excuse for his low minutes. Bennett was competing for frontcourt minutes with Pek, Thad Young and Gorgui Dieng. Last year, Jones was competing with... Anthony Morrow?

His excuse for not getting minutes was that he sucked.

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2015, 10:36:42 PM »

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Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2015, 11:46:16 PM »

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Jones.

At least he has an excuse for having poor stats (bring buried behind a superstar on team that competes every year).  Not everyone accepts that excuse, but it is a legit excuse that can carry a debate.  Plus in the one year where his team wasn't a clear contender (last year) he managed a couple of pretty impressive games, so at least he's shown he is capable of it.

Bennett on the other hand has played for bottom-of-the-barrel lottery teams teams every year so far, and he's still struggled to get playing time or to make any kind if impact.  That's bad.  That's real bad.
I'm not sure Jones has an excuse for his low minutes. Bennett was competing for frontcourt minutes with Pek, Thad Young and Gorgui Dieng. Last year, Jones was competing with... Anthony Morrow?

Dieng and Pekovic are centers.  Bennett is not a center.

So the line should read "Bennett was competing for minutes with Thad Young". 

Now Thad Young is nowhere near an All-Star.  He's a good starter (On Iggy level at best).  Plus Minnesota were pretty much tanking, so it's in their best interest to develop prospects rather than win games.  So if Bennett had so much glowing upside, why on earth would the rebuilding Wolves play Thaddeus Young almost 34 minutes a game...leaving Bennett a measly 16 minutes?

Gorgiu Dieng is a 25 year old prospect who was taken 21st overall in the same very same draft in which the 22 year old Bennett was taken 1st overall.  Also Dieng (like Bennett) put up pretty 'meh' stats in his rookie year in limited minutes.

So why is it that the Timberwolves were happy to give Dieng a whopping 30 minutes of playing time (indicating that they have no shame playing prospects) despite already having a proven center in Pekovic...and yet they only gave Bennett 16 minutes a game?

All signs indicate that Bennett should have higher upside - he was taking far higher in the draft than Dieng and he's significantly younger.  So why did they trust Dieng to play big minutes, but not Bennett?

I'll tell you why.  Because Dieng has obvious upside as an NBA player, and Bennett does not.

This is the same reason why now (with a nearly retired KG and an unproven rookie Anthony-Towns on their roster) the Wolves decided to buy out Bennett's contract and let him walk.

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2015, 11:50:43 PM »

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Jones.

At least he has an excuse for having poor stats (bring buried behind a superstar on team that competes every year).  Not everyone accepts that excuse, but it is a legit excuse that can carry a debate.  Plus in the one year where his team wasn't a clear contender (last year) he managed a couple of pretty impressive games, so at least he's shown he is capable of it.

Bennett on the other hand has played for bottom-of-the-barrel lottery teams teams every year so far, and he's still struggled to get playing time or to make any kind if impact.  That's bad.  That's real bad.
I'm not sure Jones has an excuse for his low minutes. Bennett was competing for frontcourt minutes with Pek, Thad Young and Gorgui Dieng. Last year, Jones was competing with... Anthony Morrow?

His excuse for not getting minutes was that he sucked.

Conveniently, Bennett has that very same excuse.

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2015, 11:53:54 PM »

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Counterpoint: Jones has knees that are made of papier-mâché.

A 6'10" fit Perry Jones with no knees is still more useful to the NBA than a 6'7" overweight Anthony Bennett with knees.

 :P  ;D
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Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2015, 07:22:47 AM »

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A 6'10" fit Perry Jones with no knees is still more useful to the NBA than a 6'7" overweight Anthony Bennett with knees.

Agree

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2015, 08:38:26 AM »

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Counterpoint: Jones has knees that are made of papier-mâché.

A 6'10" fit Perry Jones with no knees is still more useful to the NBA than a 6'7" overweight Anthony Bennett with knees.

 :P  ;D
I'll go for the guy with knees please.  Also I'm not so sure how overweight he is anymore. At his worst I don't think he was ever Tractor Traylor or Mike Sweeney

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2015, 10:18:25 AM »

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Counterpoint: Jones has knees that are made of papier-mâché.

A 6'10" fit Perry Jones with no knees is still more useful to the NBA than a 6'7" overweight Anthony Bennett with knees.

 :P  ;D
I'll go for the guy with knees please.  Also I'm not so sure how overweight he is anymore. At his worst I don't think he was ever Tractor Traylor or Mike Sweeney

You mean, no more than 2/3rds a Sully?

Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2015, 10:27:55 AM »

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A 6'10" fit Perry Jones with no knees is still more useful to the NBA than a 6'7" overweight Anthony Bennett with knees.

Agree

Sure, if you think that knee regeneration is easier than getting into better shape (which, spoiler alert: it isn't)
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Re: Who has more potential Anthony Bennet or Perry Jones III
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2015, 11:27:46 AM »

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A 6'10" fit Perry Jones with no knees is still more useful to the NBA than a 6'7" overweight Anthony Bennett with knees.

Agree

Sure, if you think that knee regeneration is easier than getting into better shape (which, spoiler alert: it isn't)

I'd say it's more that a guy who has shown flashes while stuck behind one of the best players in the league is more promising than a guy who has stunk the joint out despite having plenty of opportunities to shine.

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