any current news on sully and weight

[JBcat]

I don't know what you guys are seeing, but he certainly has lost quite a bit of weight.

Compare Media Day from last season to this one:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5dpS15jANc





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km7MudaFgMg

cone head look   ....wut up wif dat 

It can be hard to tell sometimes with pictures but when you have pictures of similar pose it's much easier.  Saying that I can see the difference in pictures but I'm reserving judgement until I see game action.  He doesn't have to be defined IMO.  PP was never really defined.  Same with Barkley.  I'm doing my best to not be pessimistic until I watch a game.

[sofutomygaha]

Your memory is warped by what those guys looked like in their thirties. At Sully's age, both were freaking physical specimens (like 99% of NBA players)

Paul Pierce, age 25


Charles Barkley, age 25

[JBcat]

Your memory is warped by what those guys looked like in their thirties. At Sully's age, both were freaking physical specimens (like 99% of NBA players)

Paul Pierce, age 25


Charles Barkley, age 25

Yes they were both very athletic but I would never call them ripped in comparison to other NBA players like say Vince Carter or Larry Johnson at a young age.  That's all I was getting at.

[Evantime34]

I don't know what you guys are seeing, but he certainly has lost quite a bit of weight.

Compare Media Day from last season to this one:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5dpS15jANc




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km7MudaFgMg

Still absolutely zero definition in his shoulders or arms which means he's still carrying tons of blubber.

I'd love to see a body fat % test comparison between Sully and an NHL player earning the same amount.

These pictures don't show below his chest. Most of his injuries have been to the lower half of his body, and he still seems to have a lot of fat in that area. He has lost some weight, but I don't think it will be enough (especially because he will probably put on weight during the season.

[SHAQATTACK]

I don't know what you guys are seeing, but he certainly has lost quite a bit of weight.

Compare Media Day from last season to this one:

These pictures don't show below his chest.

For this I'm thankful 

[kozlodoev]

It can be hard to tell sometimes with pictures but when you have pictures of similar pose it's much easier.  Saying that I can see the difference in pictures but I'm reserving judgement until I see game action.  He doesn't have to be defined IMO.  PP was never really defined.  Same with Barkley.  I'm doing my best to not be pessimistic until I watch a game.

The problem here isn't being or not being defined. The problem is carrying 20+ extra pounds on a bad back.

[PhoSita]

The problem here isn't being or not being defined. The problem is carrying 20+ extra pounds on a bad back.

Exactly.

Sullinger seems to be in denial about the severity of the problem, i.e. that his bones and joints cannot take the strain of frequent intense exercise with the amount of weight on his frame.

He's been cowed into taking on a fitness regimen by his family, reportedly despite his inclination to do nothing.  Still, judging by the lack of radical results, he has not taken the kind of extreme measures that are probably necessary (e.g. completely changing his diet and lifestyle, such as the sugar-free diet Steve Nash undertook to keep playing till age 40).

Sully may see some benefits related to the work he did this summer such as improved endurance and energy on the court, which would be great.  Nevertheless, unless he drops a lot more weight, I'd expect his injury issues to persist. 

I don't expect that kind of change to take place unless he adopts a more professional attitude toward his diet and lifestyle (basically, those are part and parcel with the work he does on the court and require the same intensity and effort level),

[Celtics4ever]

Sully may see some benefits related to the work he did this summer such as improved endurance and energy on the court, which would be great.  Nevertheless, unless he drops a lot more weight, I'd expect his injury issues to persist. 

Unless he tears it I think he may not play as much.   Lee is here now, Amir is here now.   Mickey is here now and Jonas fillled in admirably when Sully was hurt.   I think if he comes in hot, and does well, then we will look at resigning him.   If not the wise thing would be a trade or to let him walk.

Yes they were both very athletic but I would never call them ripped in comparison to other NBA players like say Vince Carter or Larry Johnson at a young age.  That's all I was getting at.

Athletic guys at least have more room for error and you really can't say PP was ever out of shape.

Even so, he must take responsibility for that and dedicate himself to slim down.  What seems to be missing here is a recognition on his part that being a professional athlete requires an elite level of discipline and determination that extends beyond what he does on the court, it has to permeate every part of his life.  Committing to a very healthy diet and maintaining an intense exercise regimen is his job, and it's a job he has to do 24/7

Agree, it is a step he needs to take, then he might be able to fix it.

He's been cowed into taking on a fitness regimen by his family, reportedly despite his inclination to do nothing.  Still, judging by the lack of radical results, he has not taken the kind of extreme measures that are probably necessary (e.g. completely changing his diet and lifestyle, such as the sugar-free diet Steve Nash undertook to keep playing till age 40).

This is the part that really gets me wondering.  Does he really believe he is that good?   I mean he did have the gall not to run up the floor and play D some possessions he missed and take some threes that were ill advised.   I recall Stevens shaking his head and yanking him twice.

I think he deserves some credit for trying.   But this is the NBA son, and every year players like MJ and Bird felt they needed to add stuff to their games and worked out in the summer.   It makes you wonder why he does not.

But as I said above, we need to see what he does in a game and how he does in a game.

[CelticSooner]

I think there's a chance he is surprisingly solid this year.  He showed signs of being an 18 and 8 guy last season.  He will never be a star, though. He doesn't have the mentality.  He might play himself into a big contract, but my guess is he will not be a Celtic long-term.  Ainge will he shopping him.

I hope Ainge trades him ASAP. I just don't like the dude's mentality since he's been a Celtic. He carries himself like a happy go lucky just getting by type player. Just hope he doesn't get hurt before Ainge can get something in return.

[Celtics4ever]

I just don't like the dude's mentality since he's been a Celtic

I dislike his mentality too.  I am from Ohio and saw more OSU games than most of you.   I did not want us to take him.  I never thought he is a guy you build around.   I also dislike it when Ainge, takes guys with poor athletic ability.   It is true we have got some miles and good play from these risky picks and truth be told not bad for where they are picked but we are missing out on the franchise guys because these guys have finite ceilings if they are alreayd skilled.

However, I would love to be wrong and eat crow and have him a 20/12 guy who plays lockdown D and plays 30 mpg.  Face, it would help the team and I love this team.  But I fear in the end, I will be more right than wrong.   

[spikelovetheCelts]

I think there's a chance he is surprisingly solid this year.  He showed signs of being an 18 and 8 guy last season.  He will never be a star, though. He doesn't have the mentality.  He might play himself into a big contract, but my guess is he will not be a Celtic long-term.  Ainge will he shopping him.

I hope Ainge trades him ASAP. I just don't like the dude's mentality since he's been a Celtic. He carries himself like a happy go lucky just getting by type player. Just hope he doesn't get hurt before Ainge can get something in return.

Minnesota could not get a second rounder for Bennett. Sully Has to prove himself to have any trade value. KO has the most trade value at the moment. Hopefully Toronto will make a move for another Canadian.

[chambers]

Mmmmm Donuts...in all seriousness, can we at least give him a month or two before sending him off to the glue factory? Maybe even one or two pre-season games? You'd think the guy was an LA Laker from what some C's fans say about him. He has been, arguably, our best player for the past 2 years, until Isaiah Thomas showed up. He was a mid/late first round pick.
He's put himself through the John Lucas experiment/motivational crap.

So....

Either he takes his game to the next level- and by that I mean his skill and maturity level- and we have a solid NBA starting big man that we picked up with a pick in the 20's.

Or, he falls back into his former cycle and loses court time to Lee, Amir, Zeller, Olynyk etc and we then re-sign him for a much cheaper deal... with more time to adapt the right mindset. Falling back into his cycle of poor health/attitude may be what he really needs for him to wake up and smell the roses. No big contract, playing for back up minutes. Not knowing what he has till' it's gone.
Hassan Whiteside had similar issues.

Just please give him a chance.
TP to Celtics4ever for being one of his biggest critics but also one willing to give Sully a chance to prove himself.

[D.o.s.]

in other news, I would love a doughnut right now.

[fairweatherfan]

Your memory is warped by what those guys looked like in their thirties. At Sully's age, both were freaking physical specimens (like 99% of NBA players)

Charles Barkley, age 25

Barkley's a good comparison because he's something of a far superior version of Sully's kind of game, and because he entered the league as fat as Sully's probably ever been.  But he put in the work over his first few years to get in that kind of shape (for a while).  Sully hasn't. 

[kozlodoev]

in other news, I would love a doughnut right now.

I recommend this place: http://unionsquaredonuts.com/.