Sully is a bottom heavy man with excellent lower body strength and control. He needs to accentuate that and no amount of curls or bench presses are going to show whether he has increased his lower body strength.
Physics, argue with this assertion, do not confuse weight or size of butt with strength. Though a lot of heavy have strong legs because they carry around a ton of weight all day. When a person can't get up there is often a poor ratio of strength to mass.
Work = Force x Distance where Force = Mass x Acceleration).
Average Power (Watts) = √4.9 x body mass (kg) x √jump-reach score (m) x 9.81
If his legs are so strong then why can't he jump? Functional compound lifts are what most think that are the best for conditioning because they combine muscles in the body in actual movement chains. Does a person need to do legs curls if they squat well, probably not. I would assume Lucas would know this and squats can make your whole body grow literally. Deadlifts are good for whole body strength as well.
http://www.robkingfitness.com/supplements/how-squatting-gives-you-bigger-arms/http://stronglifts.com/5-reasons-why-train-legs-squats/Also what was needed was for Sully to get more aerobically fit so that his stamina and ability to run the court would improve. Again, no amount of upper body definition or size increase is going to show this.
I think your right here, nick, and I think that there is a chance it has happened.
Sully needed to get in better overall condition and increase his strength in his greatest area, lower body, to dominate in the type of game his body is made for: under the basket, below the basket basketball. He needs to be able to back people up off the block, he needs to be able to push people out of their comfort zone on defense, he needs to be able to play 32 MPG. He needs to be quick enough to close out on stretch bigs.
Most of the guys who have played this style are and were better athletes than Sully is here. Also, I would point out he does not seem to like playing this style. I agree, it would be the best for him but this kid does not embrace his strengths and what he is natural at. He will never, ever be quick. in a Zombie apocalypse he would be the guy you want with you because you would not have to outrun the zombies, just Jared and they would have a nice meal.
You just are not going to see major changes to his body for Sully to have increased his strength and conditioning in these areas. Only time will tell if he actually did do the work he said he did. Patience is needed.
Time will tell, I agree on the patience.
But some of us have exercised and lifted weights, do not quit your day job to become a trainer. Because I think this stuff is a excuse-ladden bunch of bull crap. Muscles get bigger when you get stronger through atrophy and people lose weight when conditioned. If you are exercising and dieting like he claimed then he would lose body fat. I would point out that you do not see many fat runners in athletic events. They need to be conditioned and their legs have to be strong. This is not the YMCA, he is a professional, and this is his job.
I suppose there was a reason for all the clothes and still exercise shots and now we see the fruit of the labors. I honesty hope he does better than what I expect as he is not without talent.
He showed signs of being an 18 and 8 guy last season.
Hmm, and I thought he was a 13 and 8 big difference.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jared_sullinger/I really like Sully's game, and his "potential", but:
I have tried to tell people since we drafted him he does not have much potential and sadly, thus far I have been right. He was a decent player out of the gate, with little athletic ability, but a great rebounder and sometime nifty scorer. He is the same guy folks. Potential means room to grow. He has a low ceiling and always has, but that being said he can play in the NBA and contributed almost right away. His shooting has not really improved that much either, because he came to us somewhat skilled. Ask yourself, this does he have a lot of room to grow? I think if he got conditioned to an acceptable level he might be a 16 and 10 guy but he will still be one of the slowest guys on the court. Ainge has picked several bigs that had skills and were less than optimal athletes. They have both been able to contribute but neither has lit the world on fire. At times their growth has been stagnant. Time to get some athletes down low, it is risky because they do not always develop skills, too. We got one in Mickey this year.
1. Think it's pathetic that a guy with access to the best trainers in the world on a contract year looks about exactly the same as he did three years ago. There is like, no change. You compare his commitment to his body versus let's say, Love or Perkins, or Barkley back in his day? no excuse. With the right diet and real commitment anyone can make drastic strides in their physical appearance. I do not buy that this is a result of Sully's body type. Rather, it's the result of his "mental type". What a shame.
Agree, but he has tons of people willing to make excuses for him. He is the one who choose to put food in his body. What concerns me is that people who blame others rarely fix their problems. They seek to blame others and do not accept personal responsibility and change their lifestyles. The bottom line is this with his poor athletic base he has less room for error than Barkley, he is less skilled than Love, and cannot compete with Perk in Strength. Each of these guys focused on what they can do on the court, not what they could not.
My advice or what Ainge needs to do with him
Tell him to get down low and use that body, you will get blocked because you lack lift once in a while. But you have the potential to be a top ten rebounder if you stay near the bucket and most of the time you use your body well to protect shots. This will get you boards and shots. Even with the Kyle Korver shots.
Run the court, and play hard. Taking it easy won't help you play more in shape. Foul hard if your man beats you. You can be replaced and if you do not perform you will be expendable.2. The fact that Ainge brought in Lee AND Johnson and then went long on Mickey?... I would not be surprised at all if Sullinger is traded.
Ainge hedged his bets. I think that he was simply trying to improve the team but if Bad Jared shows up (and he totally deserves a chance to play and prove himself) then he will sit or be traded because now Ainge has options. I read a lot of articles where KO or Sully may be gone. I think it more likely PJ is gone but one ever knows. They are saying stuff like " I think he will have a fantastic year" but this is what I would say too. 1) It helps his confidence which may be low or less an optimal. This gives him a fair chance to compete. 2) You do not hurt his trade value by saying we are disappointed your a lard butt.
3. If there is a guy who doesn't fit Stevens mentality as far as approach to the game, which appears for starters that, you come in in great shape and play "hard, up and down the court basketball", it is Jared Sullinger.
Agree, again. I recall Stevens saying they would not sacrifice defensive integrity when he came back. Truth be told, he played ok in that Cavs series, though, not on D but on the boards and scoring like he normally does. Trouble, if when he plays he does well in those things but usually the other team does well because of his D.
4. Combined with the fact that we played very good basketball without him down the stretch last year?
I though Jonas was a big upgrade defensively but IT really helped. One could argue that Lee is a better player but it remains to be seen. I will go on record that David Lee will have the better career of the two though. But we won a lot of games without him and now we have Lee and Amir.
How do you give this guy a big payday?
You don't unless he plays well this year and he agrees to a weight clause.
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