Smart snubbed again

[celtics2030]

In similar minutes Burke had higher PPG, APG, and FT%
Smart had a higher Rebound and Steals %

Field Goal % and 3 point % were nearly identical.

So if Burke is terrible, what does that make Smart?

Trey Burke with elite defense.

That is false because Burke is a better offensive player. His potential is much higher than Smart's prayer 3 pointers.

Burke really is not much better of an offensive player.

Both are bad shooters. Difference is Burke shoots it 2x as much as Smart.

Smart can't even get himself open to shoot many shots......

Trey Burke can improve his shot and shot selection.....hes 50/50 on 3's and 2's, he takes them both at about the same amount..

Marcus can play 40 minutes and not be able to put up more than 8 shots, because he just can't get open enough , he cannot create much either in terms of shots.

[celtics2030]

In similar minutes Burke had higher PPG, APG, and FT%
Smart had a higher Rebound and Steals %

Field Goal % and 3 point % were nearly identical.

So if Burke is terrible, what does that make Smart?

Trey Burke with elite defense.

That is false because Burke is a better offensive player. His potential is much higher than Smart's prayer 3 pointers.

Marcus's 3 pointers go in the basket more often than Trey Burke's. To paraphrase the earlier comment, if Marcus's are prayers, what does that make Burke's?

I do not even know what your talking about, your trying to take a 2% point difference in three point percentage and do what? Proving to me he can shoot better? I don't get it.

[Boris Badenov]

In similar minutes Burke had higher PPG, APG, and FT%
Smart had a higher Rebound and Steals %

Field Goal % and 3 point % were nearly identical.

So if Burke is terrible, what does that make Smart?

Trey Burke with elite defense.

That is false because Burke is a better offensive player. His potential is much higher than Smart's prayer 3 pointers.

Burke really is not much better of an offensive player.

Both are bad shooters. Difference is Burke shoots it 2x as much as Smart.

Smart can't even get himself open to shoot many shots......

Trey Burke can improve his shot and shot selection.....hes 50/50 on 3's and 2's, he takes them both at about the same amount..

Marcus can play 40 minutes and not be able to put up more than 8 shots, because he just can't get open enough , he cannot create much either in terms of shots.

So the essence of your argument is that while both are bad shooters, Burke is better because he shoots more often?

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Burke is fine.

Marcus Smart is fine but is limited.

You cannot tear down Burke and leave Marcus alone.

Marcus has major flaws, and his potential is limited to his defense.

Please.

If it turns out his ankle is the reason he wasn't able to get to the rim/finish he's a perennial all-star. Trey Burke will never be anything more than a backup PG on a decent team.

perennial all star lol

It's almost like being good at both offense and defense would earn you all-star nominations.

[GreenCoffeeBean]

Burke is fine.

Marcus Smart is fine but is limited.

You cannot tear down Burke and leave Marcus alone.

Marcus has major flaws, and his potential is limited to his defense.

Please.

If it turns out his ankle is the reason he wasn't able to get to the rim/finish he's a perennial all-star. Trey Burke will never be anything more than a backup PG on a decent team.

I think Burke is actually a starter already soooooooooo....

[celtics2030]

He is just a better player on offense........nothing more to that......If you watch basketball and know the game you see it.

Just like Elfrid Payton is a better offensive player. Trey Burke's offensive game may be terrible in shooting departments but he can create better and get shots off better.

Marcus Smart is limited on offense, and all it takes is 5 games to see that.

[Boris Badenov]

He is just a better player on offense........nothing more to that......If you watch basketball and know the game you see it.

Just like Elfrid Payton is a better offensive player. Trey Burke's offensive game may be terrible in shooting departments but he can create better and get shots off better.

Marcus Smart is limited on offense, and all it takes is 5 games to see that.

Ah, the old "if you watch basketball" argument. Last refuge of the logically bankrupt.

[celtics2030]

He is just a better player on offense........nothing more to that......If you watch basketball and know the game you see it.

Just like Elfrid Payton is a better offensive player. Trey Burke's offensive game may be terrible in shooting departments but he can create better and get shots off better.

Marcus Smart is limited on offense, and all it takes is 5 games to see that.

Ah, the old "if you watch basketball" argument. Last refuge of the logically bankrupt.

The point is not to make fun of.

Their are certain things you can see when you watch a player. It is that simple.

When you watch Marcus Smart your scared that all he will do is shoot 3's for the entire game...when he goes to the basket you know he is getting rejected. He can't dribble. He cannot create a shot for himself which is basically suicide for a Guard player trying to start in the NBA.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Ah, the old "if you watch basketball" argument. Last refuge of the logically bankrupt.

His argument is that Burke can create his own shots and Smart can't, thus Burke has more upside offensively.

[Celtics4ever]

Until he delivers a solid consistent performance in the  regular NBA expect snubs.

[SparzWizard]

Jordan Clarkson not in there 

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Burke is fine.

Marcus Smart is fine but is limited.

You cannot tear down Burke and leave Marcus alone.

Marcus has major flaws, and his potential is limited to his defense.

Please.

If it turns out his ankle is the reason he wasn't able to get to the rim/finish he's a perennial all-star. Trey Burke will never be anything more than a backup PG on a decent team.

I think Burke is actually a starter already soooooooooo....

He's not.

He started 2 of the last 40 games and they spent a top 5 pick on his replacement after a year. Anybody can start if the team is bad enough, his caliber of play doesn't warrant starting.

[Ilikesports17]

He is just a better player on offense........nothing more to that......If you watch basketball and know the game you see it.

Just like Elfrid Payton is a better offensive player. Trey Burke's offensive game may be terrible in shooting departments but he can create better and get shots off better.

Marcus Smart is limited on offense, and all it takes is 5 games to see that.

Ah, the old "if you watch basketball" argument. Last refuge of the logically bankrupt.

The point is not to make fun of.

Their are certain things you can see when you watch a player. It is that simple.

When you watch Marcus Smart your scared that all he will do is shoot 3's for the entire game...when he goes to the basket you know he is getting rejected. He can't dribble. He cannot create a shot for himself which is basically suicide for a Guard player trying to start in the NBA.

I dont watch enough Utah Jazz to be able to make a really good statement on this, but from what Ive seen, Burke is not an offensive power house by any means. Looking at his stats Smart took 4 3s per game at 33.5% and took 7 overall shots including 2 free throws. His total fg% was a pretty awful 37%.

As for Burke. He took 5 3s per game (thats right thats more 3s per game) at 31.8% and took 14 overall shots at an equally awful 37%. He also got to the line 2x per game.

Statistically they seem pretty similar the only difference is that Burke shoots way more and gets more assists. This would make sense as he was given a larger role in the offense.

I dont understand how you have time to watch the whole NBA but good for you. Im left with the handful of games that the C's play a team and what I remember from college then highlight packages which dont tell 1/2 the story. Stats are a good fallback in situations like these, but I agree the eye test is most valuable.

[Ilikesports17]

Burke is fine.

Marcus Smart is fine but is limited.

You cannot tear down Burke and leave Marcus alone.

Marcus has major flaws, and his potential is limited to his defense.

Please.

If it turns out his ankle is the reason he wasn't able to get to the rim/finish he's a perennial all-star. Trey Burke will never be anything more than a backup PG on a decent team.

I think Burke is actually a starter already soooooooooo....

He's not.

He started 2 of the last 40 games and they spent a top 5 pick on his replacement after a year. Anybody can start if the team is bad enough, his caliber of play doesn't warrant starting.

another good point. Marcus's minutes went up and he went from bench to starting as the celtics played better. As the Jazz made their impressive second half push Burke moved from starting to bench.

[Boris Badenov]

Ah, the old "if you watch basketball" argument. Last refuge of the logically bankrupt.

His argument is that Burke can create his own shots and Smart can't, thus Burke has more upside offensively.

I understand the argument. My point is that telling me that something is true because I don't watch basketball is ridiculous.

As to the actual argument, I don't see any proof that Smart couldn't maintain the same (in)efficiency as Burke if he ramped up his shot volume. And anyway, since when is shot creation a good thing if you don't hit the shots? When is shooting from different spots good, if you don't get as many points per shot from any of those locations as Smart got on 3s last year? Why whine about Smart never getting to the line while complimenting a player who gets to the line even less? Etc.

Edit: Ilikesports17 says many of the same things above. TP.