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Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #195 on: July 14, 2015, 06:14:06 PM »

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Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Aside from the fact that this silly argument is nullified by the simple observation that he had countless opportunities to do just that in a season where Kevin Durant played 27 games, I'd get after it knowing that if I don't show I belong in this league, I'm dangerously close to having to play overseas, yes.

Reggie Jackson playing behind Russell Westbrook didn't stop him from playing well and showing his potential.


You clearly don't understand the difference between a backup player and a role player.  Pj3 role was to back up durant.  Reggie was a 6th man, the replacement of James harden.  Big difference when your coach finds a place for you on the rotation and your coach has no clue how to properly utilize you.  If you're gonna make comparisons as a basis for your argument next time try making them I don't know....comparable ::)

KD averages 38 minutes a game. KD doesn't really come off the court. His backup may as well be Tom Brady's backup.

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #196 on: July 14, 2015, 06:17:20 PM »

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Being that this basically cost us nothing (a conditional 2nd) AND we get a better (probably) 2nd back in return along w/ Jones, this is a no-brainer move. I'm not going to pretend that PJIII is somehow going to become the star he always had the potential to be, but who knows, he could be a useful player. We know Brooks was a terrible coach, and that prob didn't help him develop, nor did playing behind KD, and on the same team as KD and Westbrook (two guys who control the ball). He might be a roster cut, he might materialize into the guy who had awesome games when he got minutes, or something in-between. Any of that is fine, b/c, again, we gave up nothing, and this is an ideal guy to take a flyer on.

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #197 on: July 14, 2015, 06:17:32 PM »

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Hey guys, its a free flyer that Stevens just might make something good out of.

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #198 on: July 14, 2015, 06:18:17 PM »

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Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #199 on: July 14, 2015, 06:18:43 PM »

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Hahahaha. I have to eat my words now. I was always happy the Cs didn't pick Jones. Now I have to root for him :)
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Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #200 on: July 14, 2015, 06:20:28 PM »

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Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Aside from the fact that this silly argument is nullified by the simple observation that he had countless opportunities to do just that in a season where Kevin Durant played 27 games, I'd get after it knowing that if I don't show I belong in this league, I'm dangerously close to having to play overseas, yes.

Reggie Jackson playing behind Russell Westbrook didn't stop him from playing well and showing his potential.


You clearly don't understand the difference between a backup player and a role player.  Pj3 role was to back up durant.  Reggie was a 6th man, the replacement of James harden.  Big difference when your coach finds a place for you on the rotation and your coach has no clue how to properly utilize you.  If you're gonna make comparisons as a basis for your argument next time try making them I don't know....comparable ::)

And gee, how do you think Reggie Jackson became a sixth man in OKC? Could it be, perhaps, that playing behind the Thunder's actual immediate James Harden replacement, Kevin Martin, in 2012-13, he flashed some capability to take on a larger role? You know, the same potential he ended up building on in the playoffs that year when Westbrook went down, letting the Thunder know for certain, "hey, this guy can definitely man the sixth man spot, we've got our Martin replacement."

As I already noted, Perry Jones was given a similar opportunity to step up this past season much like Reggie did in Westbrook's absence in 2013, but you conveniently ignored that point because it didn't fit your narrative of "poor Perry, he didn't get a chance to shine behind KD."

Next time you want to play pompous snob, you should... you know... try actually learning a thing about the subject for which you want to paint yourself as being all-knowing. ::)

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #201 on: July 14, 2015, 06:23:23 PM »

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Sheesh 14 pages on us dealing for Perry Jones.  Hard to determine what is worth more, the 2nd round pick, the cash, or Jones. 

I don't honestly expect much out of him.  He has the prototypical "athletic potential" that everyone wants.  But he wasn't able to take advantage of Durant's injury and play himself into a role.

I guess we all want something to talk about.  Hopefully all of these minor deals help flexibility for the larger one that will eventually drop.

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #202 on: July 14, 2015, 06:27:54 PM »

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Sheesh 14 pages on us dealing for Perry Jones. 

*Checks the date*

Yup, sounds about right.
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Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #203 on: July 14, 2015, 06:34:47 PM »

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Yep, wanted this guy in place of Melo. Funny, that we had to pay to get rid of Melo, and now we're paid to take on PJ3.

The Celts now have three guys taken in that general range in the draft -- Zeller, PJ3, and Crowder.

Turns out the end of the 1st and early 2nd in that draft was pretty well stocked with rotation players, plus Draymond Green who is a borderline star.

Fab was a major whiff by Danny.
Please, are you going to try to convince us now that PJ3 is a "rotation guy"?
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Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #204 on: July 14, 2015, 06:35:55 PM »

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Hey guys, its a free flyer that Stevens just might make something good out of.

Absolutely.  First off, Boston ACQUIRED assets in the deal.  Secondly Jones has great upside.  Even if he doesn't become more than a homeless man's Anthony Davis thats really really good for ~20 minutes per night

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #205 on: July 14, 2015, 06:41:44 PM »

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Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Aside from the fact that this silly argument is nullified by the simple observation that he had countless opportunities to do just that in a season where Kevin Durant played 27 games, I'd get after it knowing that if I don't show I belong in this league, I'm dangerously close to having to play overseas, yes.

Reggie Jackson playing behind Russell Westbrook didn't stop him from playing well and showing his potential.


You clearly don't understand the difference between a backup player and a role player.  Pj3 role was to back up durant.  Reggie was a 6th man, the replacement of James harden.  Big difference when your coach finds a place for you on the rotation and your coach has no clue how to properly utilize you.  If you're gonna make comparisons as a basis for your argument next time try making them I don't know....comparable ::)

And gee, how do you think Reggie Jackson became a sixth man in OKC? Could it be, perhaps, that playing behind the Thunder's actual immediate James Harden replacement, Kevin Martin, in 2012-13, he flashed some capability to take on a larger role? You know, the same potential he ended up building on in the playoffs that year when Westbrook went down, letting the Thunder know for certain, "hey, this guy can definitely man the sixth man spot, we've got our Martin replacement."

As I already noted, Perry Jones was given a similar opportunity to step up this past season much like Reggie did in Westbrook's absence in 2013, but you conveniently ignored that point because it didn't fit your narrative of "poor Perry, he didn't get a chance to shine behind KD."

Next time you want to play pompous snob, you should... you know... try actually learning a thing about the subject for which you want to paint yourself as being all-knowing. ::)

Again what role is perry supposed to play?  Your comparing two different types of players with two different skill sets.  One player that fit A need and one that the coach had no specific need for.  So exactly what role is pj3 supposed to step up into?  Powe forward? Center?  His skill set doesn't allow him to be much more than a sf in the offense they ran which surprise surprise they have someone already there that anyone with half a brain knows they aren't gonna move!  Yor suggesting he work his butt off to take Durants spot.  Not gonna happen and not why he was drafted.  He was drafted to play backup.  A guy who was the man for his team at Baylor and he's supposed to be ok with playing backup?  It's very feasible that a guy coming from where he did and that struggled with confidence/motor could very well have checked out given his limited opportunities.  I'm not even suggesting that's the definitive case but let's not throw the kid under the bus when he's not even been in a role where he can actually have some incentive to be the starter somewhere.   I think it's been proven this past two years that guys that get the opportunity to show what they have can be a valuable commodity to the celtics.  i like how to omitted the games he played well for his team during his starting role in okc as well ::)

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #206 on: July 14, 2015, 06:45:21 PM »

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I wanted us to draft him rather than Fab Melo.

Not too excited about him now.
same here.  wanted him in the draft but pretty underwhelmed by him right now



How can you be underwhelmed when the player never so the court?

Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #207 on: July 14, 2015, 06:47:48 PM »

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What are you talking about? He's got tons of body! He's 6'11".

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Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #208 on: July 14, 2015, 06:47:58 PM »

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I wanted us to draft him rather than Fab Melo.

Not too excited about him now.
same here.  wanted him in the draft but pretty underwhelmed by him right now



How can you be underwhelmed when the player never so the court?
The fact that he couldn't see the court for 3 years in the league isn't underwhelming to you?!
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Re: Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder
« Reply #209 on: July 14, 2015, 06:50:01 PM »

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I wanted us to draft him rather than Fab Melo.

Not too excited about him now.
same here.  wanted him in the draft but pretty underwhelmed by him right now



How can you be underwhelmed when the player never so the court?
The fact that he couldn't see the court for 3 years in the league isn't underwhelming to you?!



When you say it in that context, Your right!  LOL