Celtics acquire Perry Jones III from the Thunder

[Endless Paradise]

Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Aside from the fact that this silly argument is nullified by the simple observation that he had countless opportunities to do just that in a season where Kevin Durant played 27 games, I'd get after it knowing that if I don't show I belong in this league, I'm dangerously close to having to play overseas, yes.

Reggie Jackson playing behind Russell Westbrook didn't stop him from playing well and showing his potential.

Is Jones a terrible defender?  Looking at his game log, it seems like he's pretty productive when he gets playing time but then he'll go long stretches where he barely plays.  Is it just because he gives it back and then some on the other end?

 though I suppose you could count his athleticism, too. He's flashed some offensive capability (see: the 32-point game I referenced earlier), but he's woefully inconsistent on that end and should never be relied upon to score for a team that is actually trying to win games.

Oh you mean......like Jeff Green     

Think Jeff Green on extra-strength Ambien. After running a marathon.

[GreenCoffeeBean]

I can't wait to sign Kevin Durant in the offseason next year and make Perry Jones III live through that nightmare all over again. Booya!

[tankcity!]

Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after it knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Um, that was the knock on him coming out of college...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Perry-Jones-5713/

Unfortunately, Jones' follow-up season was fairly disappointing. His production dropped or stagnated in several key areas, and many were left to ponder whether he simply isn't a good fit at Baylor, or if he lacks the internal motivation and wherewithal needed to get the most out of his unbelievable natural tools.

Upon announcing his decision to return to school, Jones was asked what he thinks he needs to improve the most on the following year. His answer was fairly revealing: “My motor. To be able to keep playing consistently throughout the entire 40 minutes of the game.”

With another full year to evaluate Jones, it doesn't appear that those questions are going anywhere. If anything, they've only gotten much louder.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3fuBPMBmr
http://www.draftexpress.com

[cb8883]

This is an F. Guy can't play and takes time from other players who they can develop. I would throw Young out there 30 minutes a night over Perry Jones...he's so good the Thunder gave him up for nothing!! Presti wins by getting an exception for him instead of just waiving him. Ainge needs to get with the program and tank.

[Donoghus]

This is an F. Guy can't play and takes time from other players who they can develop. I would throw Young out there 30 minutes a night over Perry Jones...he's so good the Thunder gave him up for nothing!! Presti wins by getting an exception for him instead of just waiving him. Ainge needs to get with the program and tank.

Wouldn't a guy you describe as an "F" play right into your tank philosophy if you actually did put him out on the court?

Seems like you can't even keep it straight on the tank dead horse you keep beating.

[Lucky17]

This is an F. Guy can't play and takes time from other players who they can develop. I would throw Young out there 30 minutes a night over Perry Jones...he's so good the Thunder gave him up for nothing!! Presti wins by getting an exception for him instead of just waiving him. Ainge needs to get with the program and tank.

You need to embrace the fact that the Celtics are not tanking. Ainge won't do it your way.

[LooseCannon]

Another pointless trade. We already have a team filled with role players. Hopefully, there is a method to Ainge's madness.

He projects best at small forward, where we are not deep at all.

I love this trade. I like this more than the David Lee trade, honestly. I can't believe this is to get a 2nd round pick. I think Danny has every intention of keeping him. This is not Chris Babb, for heaven's sake.

You like this trade more than David Lee ?

That's ridiculous.

I do because I feel he fulfills a greater need than David Lee at the small forward position, and that he is much younger with tremendous upside. Not a knock on Lee, who is a more valuable player today. I am thinking about upside and need. 

So maybe I am not so ridiculous.

He may be younger with more upside, but I think Lee probably has a better sot of being re-signed after this season.

[cltc5]

Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Aside from the fact that this silly argument is nullified by the simple observation that he had countless opportunities to do just that in a season where Kevin Durant played 27 games, I'd get after it knowing that if I don't show I belong in this league, I'm dangerously close to having to play overseas, yes.

Reggie Jackson playing behind Russell Westbrook didn't stop him from playing well and showing his potential.

You clearly don't understand the difference between a backup player and a role player.  Pj3 role was to back up durant.  Reggie was a 6th man, the replacement of James harden.  Big difference when your coach finds a place for you on the rotation and your coach has no clue how to properly utilize you.  If you're gonna make comparisons as a basis for your argument next time try making them I don't know....comparable

 

[Celtics4ever]

When Ainge makes a deal he has a purpose, I bet he has had his eye on him for a while.   This kid has his issues, lack of motivation, purpose etc.   But he is a huge SF with athletic ability, Ainge is rolling the dice, once again.  Perhaps seeing someone with Mickey's athletic ability made him hanker for more.

[LooseCannon]

How is Perry Jones knees and motor ? Anybody follow okc?

Those two are his biggest negatives to date.

This.

I'm a Thunder fan. A common refrain around the the fan community is that Perry Jones is elite at existing on a basketball court and not much else.

So, you're saying he's best suited for a team where his role would be standing around and watching Durant and Westbrook ISO?

[LooseCannon]

"If he pans out..." Some funny people here think this is an actual basketball trade. My dear fellows, I hate to break it to y'all, but this is Ainge helping move salary along, and adding a second rounder for his troubles.

PJ3 has about as much chance as Dan Dickau to be the next great Celtic.

So you're saying there's a chance?

[aingeforthree]

When Ainge makes a deal he has a purpose, I bet he has had his eye on him for a while.   This kid has his issues, lack of motivation, purpose etc.   But he is a huge SF with athletic ability, Ainge is rolling the dice, once again.  Perhaps seeing someone with Mickey's athletic ability made him hanker for more.

I agreed.  Nothing to lose here.  Easy decision to get a long look at a young talent.

[cltc5]

Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after it knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Um, that was the knock on him coming out of college...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Perry-Jones-5713/

Unfortunately, Jones' follow-up season was fairly disappointing. His production dropped or stagnated in several key areas, and many were left to ponder whether he simply isn't a good fit at Baylor, or if he lacks the internal motivation and wherewithal needed to get the most out of his unbelievable natural tools.

Upon announcing his decision to return to school, Jones was asked what he thinks he needs to improve the most on the following year. His answer was fairly revealing: “My motor. To be able to keep playing consistently throughout the entire 40 minutes of the game.”

With another full year to evaluate Jones, it doesn't appear that those questions are going anywhere. If anything, they've only gotten much louder.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3fuBPMBmr
http://www.draftexpress.com

I'd rather have a guy that can work on his motor than a guy like james young that has no basketball skill whatsoever outside of knocking down open jumpers inconsistently.  He's 23 and if he doesn't gets after it no big loss, but if he does we have a big wing that can defend.  Sorry I have a bit more faith in our coaching staff getting the most out of their players than others do.

[GzUP617]

Oh, and as for why Jones didn't play much: complete and utter lack of internal motor and drive. The dude just doesn't get after it. I know that in the age of advanced stats and longform basketball analysis, it's somewhat taboo to decry a player for lacking something that's best described as an intangible, but it's entirely accurate and appropriate here.

Would you get after knowing you'll probaly spend the rest of your career playing behind some guy named Kevin durant?

Aside from the fact that this silly argument is nullified by the simple observation that he had countless opportunities to do just that in a season where Kevin Durant played 27 games, I'd get after it knowing that if I don't show I belong in this league, I'm dangerously close to having to play overseas, yes.

Reggie Jackson playing behind Russell Westbrook didn't stop him from playing well and showing his potential.

You clearly don't understand the difference between a backup player and a role player.  Pj3 role was to back up durant.  Reggie was a 6th man, the replacement of James harden.  Big difference when your coach finds a place for you on the rotation and your coach has no clue how to properly utilize you.  If you're gonna make comparisons as a basis for your argument next time try making them I don't know....comparable

IF PJIII actually lasts by the time the season starts he'll be a role player from day 1.

[byennie]

Granted we don't have enough minutes for everyone, but that aside, this is a perfect guy to take a free flyer on. Put him in a new environment, put him on the court with passionate guys like Crowder and Smart. Simplify the game and tell him to defend, shoot corner 3s (42%), and play hard for 10-15 minutes per night. See if he can hang with that role. He certainly has the ability to be a 3-and-D guy, get his confidence, and maybe (just maybe) be more someday. Odds? I dunno, but not astronomical.

He might fail, but he's 23 and was at least arguably in a weird position in OKC playing behind Durant on a contender. Yes, he got a big opportunity when Durant was out, but it's still different than being developed slowly. Basically he went from no chance of real minutes to starting overnight. He had a couple of big games and faded.

Or, he's going to be flipped within the hour =)