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Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2015, 10:14:11 PM »

Offline Chief Macho

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I think it's because they don't follow a legit college program closely enough for a long enough time to understand what it looks like  seeing these type of players grow.   The only thing that annoys me is these postw calling him lazy and unprofessional a year after being drafted and two years after graduating high school. 

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2015, 10:31:32 PM »

Offline LilRip

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people don't hate young, but they hate his output thus far. I don't hate it because I never really bought into the Young hype train, even with him adding "20 pounds of muscle".

Imagine, if he was an undrafted player and he was trying to make this team like a Fair or a Holmes, do you think he would deserve to make the team? Or wouldn't you rather guarantee a guy like Jordan Mickey first?

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Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2015, 10:31:43 PM »

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I don't feel young is "hated" I just think that thus far overall as a fanbase we are a little disappointed in him. When we drafted him we all kind of expected this scoring athletic wing with great size and a silky smooth jumpshot. What we see right now in the summer league if very little progression and that is what is causing the disappointment.

But he is still 19, and the youngest guy on the roster. I think most fans regardless are willing to wait until next season to see some improvement from him. But if nothing happens with him by this time next year, I don't think he will be staying on this roster.

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2015, 11:15:13 PM »

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I don't like him because I think he sucks.

But I don't think people in general hate Young.

I think most Celtics fans like Young, not because good, but simply because he's young and for some reason, most fans like young players even if they are awful

Don't understand why, but that's how it seems to be.

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2015, 02:53:34 AM »

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No hate. Just showed nothing so far. If he improves himself this year he'll be more then welcomed on my fav-player list.

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2015, 03:01:55 AM »

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CelticsBlog basically hates every single rookie ever except for the ones they're convinced (as individual posters) are exactly what we need to cure what ails our team.

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Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2015, 04:22:17 AM »

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CelticsBlog basically hates every single rookie ever except for the ones they're convinced (as individual posters) are exactly what we need to cure what ails our team.

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The last young Celtic I was super high on was Al Jefferson.  I was convinced he was going to be a 20/10 player.  He basically got there, but I thought his ceiling was even higher. 

I get a reputation for being down on young Celtics, but that's because most of them have been garbage.   I was called a Glen Davis hater, for instance, because I didn't buy into the hype when he was filling in for KG.   Heh... A Glen Davis hater.  That's funny to even think about now. 


Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2015, 06:28:38 AM »

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Well considering that Bruno Cabcolo was the youngest player in the draft and he has already shown more in one summer league game than James Young has shown in the entire Utah SL I am a little pessimistic. James Young just isn't a good basketball player. He can't shoot, he can't handle the ball, he can't defend, and he's an average athlete by NBA standards. It's truly surprising how bad Ainge is at drafting.

I admit Smart has become a lot better in the offseason, but beyond Smart becoming a star Ainge has shown he is awful at drafting. That is why I worry about a rebuild with Ainge at the helm because if you don't have someone who can evaluate talent you will end up like the Sacremento Kings and Charlotte Bobcats of the world. Teams that have had multiple lottery picks, but they seem to have an inability to choose the right talent or to even evaluate talent for that matter leaving them mediocre. They have no team chemistry, there roster isn't that good, and they still are a mediocre team. That is what we will become if we keep this **** up and no amount of first round picks will be enough to get us out of a rebuild if you can't make the right selections.

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2015, 07:13:22 AM »

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He's a supposed shooter that can't hit his shots. It's frustrating to watch. He also just didn't look like he belonged on the court through most of last season, and while there's a little improvement on that front in SL, if he's not even showing promise at the skill he was drafted for then he's not that compelling of a prospect. Wish him well and hope he improves, no hate, just what the evidence has shown.

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2015, 07:27:07 AM »

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CelticsBlog basically hates every single rookie ever except for the ones they're convinced (as individual posters) are exactly what we need to cure what ails our team.

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The last young Celtic I was super high on was Al Jefferson.  I was convinced he was going to be a 20/10 player.  He basically got there, but I thought his ceiling was even higher. 

I get a reputation for being down on young Celtics, but that's because most of them have been garbage.   I was called a Glen Davis hater, for instance, because I didn't buy into the hype when he was filling in for KG.   Heh... A Glen Davis hater.  That's funny to even think about now.

I dunno. I just started posting here again this week for the first time in a while.

Personally, especially during a rebuild, young player development is really the only thing to watch on the current roster and the only thing to be hopeful about.

So I like to envision what these guys would look like If they really fulfilled their potential with their current skillsets. But it is also fun to think about how good some of these guys would be if they added other dimensions to their game. I know it isnt likely that these guys will just pull new skills out of thin air, but watching them develop and get better is what keeps me engaged.

Some posters who may think along the same lines might get frustrated constantly hearing that all these prospects will never be stars and you are an idiot for thinking otherwise.

I personally dont get offended because I also understand and appreciate setting realistic expectations so I get where you're coming from. The thing is, if these guys flame out, and many of them will, I wont be dissappointed. I will have enjoyed watching them while theyre here, and move on to the next batch of hopefuls.

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2015, 07:30:25 AM »

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CelticsBlog basically hates every single rookie ever except for the ones they're convinced (as individual posters) are exactly what we need to cure what ails our team.

#FreeJuJuanJohnson

I would argue that the sentiment tends to be overly positive in the early going, and then turns viciously negative once the warts start showing.

We're basically a collection of starry-eyed 14 year old girls dating their first dream boyfriends - except the 14 year old girls tend to smarten up after their initial heartbreak, and we keep going back for more punishment.

Which reminds me - isn't Jordan Mickey dreamy?

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2015, 07:48:06 AM »

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He is nice dude , but

Bottom line

We want

To build a championship team

It's not a nice situation like family , like you can keep em around no matter how lame they are.

In the NBA professional sports .....

Winning comes first

Cold hard facts.....people at impatient

He probably is going to get the boot.   

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2015, 08:00:48 AM »

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CelticsBlog basically hates every single rookie ever except for the ones they're convinced (as individual posters) are exactly what we need to cure what ails our team.

#FreeJuJuanJohnson

I would argue that the sentiment tends to be overly positive in the early going, and then turns viciously negative once the warts start showing.

We're basically a collection of starry-eyed 14 year old girls dating their first dream boyfriends - except the 14 year old girls tend to smarten up after their initial heartbreak, and we keep going back for more punishment.

Which reminds me - isn't Jordan Mickey dreamy?

that was beautiful. tp

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2015, 08:13:22 AM »

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It's very rare in basketball to get a great player with great instincts, BBIQ, skills,burning desire,  but that is not a great athlete.  Our own beloved Larry Bird might be the best example ever!  What there is, is lots of players that are insanely athletic, but have hardly any of the other attributes!  James Young is a prime example!  Nice guy, very athletic, but not a "basketball player"!  His only true basketball skill is shooting, and right now he's not even doing that!
Maybe a change of scenery would do him well---take some of the pressure off---I don't know, but right now he is not roster worthy.
I don't remotely "hate" JY, but rather feel sorry for so many really good "basketball players" who could never make it, or been given the chance  in the pros, or even college, because they weren't great athletically.  You see it so much today in all sports---hence the "combines", where athleticism is valued more than talent!

Re: Why do people hate Young so much?
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2015, 08:39:53 AM »

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Kid looked good at Kentucky.  His killer instinct is gone.  Confidence is shot.  He stinks.  Forgot how to play basketball.