Deron Williams negotiating release to play with Dallas, consequences for Celtics' picks [Merged]

[mahonedog88]

The Brooklyn pick is much more important than the Dallas pick.  I'm torn on this.

Williams is a key part in all of this though.  If he goes to Dallas, he could experience a resurgence and that pick will now end up being mid-first round.  Or if he goes to Dallas, he'll continue his inconsistent mediocrity and it won't matter.

But on the Brooklyn side, part of me nervously wonders if Williams leaving Brooklyn would end up being addition by subtraction.  We saw it here with Rondo.  We need Brooklyn to be as bad as possible and I'm not convinced Deron Williams leaving makes that happen.  Shows you how far his career has fallen from his Utah days.

[jbpats]

I'm confused on how the Dallas pick works. Say the Dallas picks falls to 13 this year, are we obligated to take it, or can we say no thanks its yours, we'll revisit next year?

[tance]

According to a Mark Stein Tweet https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/619392514642948096:

"Story going online now: ESPN sources say Deron Williams seeking release from Brooklyn Nets so he can sign with his hometown Dallas Mavericks"

Not sure the net affect on our Brooklyn/Dallas picks if this were to occur.  Better Nets pick, more Dallas moves into mid teens?

Thoughts?

[hodgy03038]

I'm confused on how the Dallas pick works. Say the Dallas picks falls to 13 this year, are we obligated to take it, or can we say no thanks its yours, we'll revisit next year?

From what I understand any pick outside the top 7 we own regardless. We cannot wait for a future pick.

[sofutomygaha]

It must be so depressing to be a Nets fan right now.

The sad truth (for Nets fans and for Celtics fans) is that him leaving the Nets probably isn't going to move the needle one way or the other!

[BudweiserCeltic]

Deron Williams, what a fine person you are. You had a player option, so instead of declining it and playing the free-agency game, you opted in just to now have the Nets buy you out so you can go and play for another team?

You're a swell guy Deron Williams, not an idiot at all.

[Boris Badenov]

I don't think losing or signing Williams moves the needle much for either team this year.  He is a pretty average injury prone player at this point.
I do think that if the Nets clear some salary that it will hurt our pick in 2017.

Doesn't Williams still count towards their cap if he gets bought out?  I thought the only benefit for the Nets was that they have to pay him less actual cash.  I could be wrong on this but I didn't think this would give the Nets any cap savings.  Even if it does though, the Nets were going to have max level cap room next year anyway with Johnson coming off the books.  Not having Williams gives them potentially two max slots, but there's no guarantee they'd actually land free agents.  They'll basically have to offer what the Knicks had this offseason (one star, a big market, and a poor front office), only the Knicks' star is better, the Nets are clearly second fiddle in New York, and they won't have a high draft pick that could be used to add more talent.  And the Knicks struck out this year.

That's what I thought also.

Just read the Nets would stretch the contract out for 5 years. 21 mil would now only be 9 mil for the year against the cap.

According to the NBA salary cap FAQ, a buyout will reduce salary cap obligations:

63. How do buy-outs affect a team's salary cap?

The agreed-upon buy-out amount (see question number 62) is included in the team salary instead of the salary called for in the contract. If the player had more than one season left on his contract, then the buy-out money is distributed among those seasons in proportion to the original salary. For example, say a player had three seasons remaining on his contract, with salaries of $10 million, $11 million and $12 million. The player and team agree to a buyout of $15 million. The $15 million is therefore charged to the team salary over the three seasons. Since the original contract had $33 million left to be paid, and $10 million is 30.3% of $33 million, 30.3% of the $15 million buyout, or $4.545 million, is included in the team salary in the first season following the buyout. Likewise, 33.33% of $15 million, or $5 million, is included in the team salary in the second season, and 36.36% of $15 million, or $5.455 million, is included in the team salary in the third season.

[D.o.s.]

Deron Williams, what a fine person you are. You had a player option, so instead of declining it and playing the free-agency game, you opted in just to now have the Nets buy you out so you can go and play for another team?

You're a swell guy Deron Williams, not an idiot at all.

I'm not sure he's an idiot -- he's almost certainly making more money than he would be otherwise.

I do think that D-Will doesn't really care about the NBA in the way that you'd want to see from your $100 million dollar superstar, though.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Deron Williams, what a fine person you are. You had a player option, so instead of declining it and playing the free-agency game, you opted in just to now have the Nets buy you out so you can go and play for another team?

You're a swell guy Deron Williams, not an idiot at all.

I'm not sure he's an idiot -- he's almost certainly making more money than he would be otherwise.

I do think that D-Will doesn't really care about the NBA in the way that you'd want to see from your $100 million dollar superstar, though.

Exactly, not an idiot at all (that part wasn't sarcasm).

[D.o.s.]

My coffee maker is broken (because life is brutish vicious and short) so I'm struggling to read anything today, let alone successfully interpret inferences.

[PhoSita]

My coffee maker is broken (because life is brutish vicious and short) so I'm struggling to read anything today, let alone successfully interpret inferences.

You forgot nasty, solitary, and poor.

[Cman]

It won't screw the Celtics. Frankly, D-Will is not an impactful enough player anymore for it to matter much either way.

[TheTruthFot18]

what if both Dallas and Nets still sucks and we get both lotto picks next year? 

a man can dream

1st (Nets), 8th (Mavs), 13th (Wolves), and 30th (C's) is the dream!

The Sixers and Lakers would accuse of us cheating the system, demand reform of the lottery, and start a petition to ban the Celtics from the NBA forever. 

[Ilikesports17]

I really have no idea what effect this would have.

[D.o.s.]

My coffee maker is broken (because life is brutish vicious and short) so I'm struggling to read anything today, let alone successfully interpret inferences.

You forgot nasty, solitary, and poor.

the struggle is real.