Hypothetical... let's assume DJ goes back to the Clips

[aingeforthree]

Let me say, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he backs out of his contract.  For the same reason teams that give verbal commitments to players in the draft don't back out of them when another player slips.  That agent and player will never be believable again.  Maybe Jordan doesn't care, but that agent does. 

If he agreed to join the Mavs and then backs out without something obvious happening like another player signing there at the same position on the owner making some racial remarks, he will go there.  Otherwise he might want it written into his contract in LA that he doesn't have to play the road games in Dallas.  You don't just screw with a team like that.

I don't think it will be looked at quite like that.  I see what you're saying though.

Its obvious he's unsure what he wants at this point.  I'm hoping he goes back to L.A.

[celticsclay]

Let me say, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he backs out of his contract.  For the same reason teams that give verbal commitments to players in the draft don't back out of them when another player slips.  That agent and player will never be believable again.  Maybe Jordan doesn't care, but that agent does. 

If he agreed to join the Mavs and then backs out without something obvious happening like another player signing there at the same position on the owner making some racial remarks, he will go there.  Otherwise he might want it written into his contract in LA that he doesn't have to play the road games in Dallas.  You don't just screw with a team like that.

I don't think it will be looked at quite like that.  I see what you're saying though.

Its obvious he's unsure what he wants at this point.  I'm hoping he goes back to L.A.

not that I feel bad or really care for him, but it is interesting point that this also reflects really poorly on the agent. It seems like having good relationships with agents plays a big role in team construction. This guy good get blackballed out of the industry after something like this.

[SHAQATTACK]

I swear I hope he doesn't go back....I want Duck to sweat his ball s off worrying.

[Jonny CC]

Let me say, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he backs out of his contract.  For the same reason teams that give verbal commitments to players in the draft don't back out of them when another player slips.  That agent and player will never be believable again.  Maybe Jordan doesn't care, but that agent does. 

If he agreed to join the Mavs and then backs out without something obvious happening like another player signing there at the same position on the owner making some racial remarks, he will go there.  Otherwise he might want it written into his contract in LA that he doesn't have to play the road games in Dallas.  You don't just screw with a team like that.

Tell that to David West and Carlos Boozer. 

[Jonny CC]

Cuban has said he would rebuild if he didn't get DJ or LMA.  Could a whole reverse domino effect happen where now wes doesn't sign or dallas decides not to go with wes and similar things happen? Before the moratorium ends, would that Mavs pick possibly open up some new things for us?

Just interesting to me.  DJ staying with the clips could possibly make teams or players think about a do over before tomorrow.

Could be wishful thinking, or just interesting conversation.  What do you guys think?

It will be harder for Cuban to rebuild without his 1st round pick next year. 

[danglertx]

Let me say, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he backs out of his contract.  For the same reason teams that give verbal commitments to players in the draft don't back out of them when another player slips.  That agent and player will never be believable again.  Maybe Jordan doesn't care, but that agent does. 

If he agreed to join the Mavs and then backs out without something obvious happening like another player signing there at the same position on the owner making some racial remarks, he will go there.  Otherwise he might want it written into his contract in LA that he doesn't have to play the road games in Dallas.  You don't just screw with a team like that.

Tell that to David West and Carlos Boozer.

I don't remember David West, but Carlos Boozer is a great example although a player with considerable less stature.  He got ripped and is still hated today by some people because of it.  As I recall though, he lied to wiggle out of some contract to be free.  He did screw a team but he did it to help himself.  Jordan apparently weighed all his options, decided to go to the Mavs and kept them from pursuing other opportunities in free agency.  Nothing has changed for him.  He doesn't gain anything by screwing Dallas like Boozer did.  At least that is how I recall it but, I am getting older.

[bdm860]

Let me say, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he backs out of his contract.  For the same reason teams that give verbal commitments to players in the draft don't back out of them when another player slips.  That agent and player will never be believable again.  Maybe Jordan doesn't care, but that agent does. 

If he agreed to join the Mavs and then backs out without something obvious happening like another player signing there at the same position on the owner making some racial remarks, he will go there.  Otherwise he might want it written into his contract in LA that he doesn't have to play the road games in Dallas.  You don't just screw with a team like that.

I don't think it will be looked at quite like that.  I see what you're saying though.

Its obvious he's unsure what he wants at this point.  I'm hoping he goes back to L.A.

not that I feel bad or really care for him, but it is interesting point that this also reflects really poorly on the agent. It seems like having good relationships with agents plays a big role in team construction. This guy good get blackballed out of the industry after something like this.

I don't think this really reflects poorly at all on the agent or Jordan for that matter.

First of all, the agent really has no control here.  It's all up to Deandre Jordan.  The agent is really just a middle man between the team and the player.  He can't make Jordan do anything he doesn't want to do, and Jordan can just fire him if he doesn't do what he's told.  While not the same industry I know, but this kind of stuff happens in Real Estate all the time.  Someone puts a bid on your house, you accept and so you turn down all others offers/don't accept any more offers, only for the prospective buyer to have a change of heart a week later when it's time to sign the papers.  Nobody blames the agent in that scenario.  Same thing here.

And as for Jordan, this is no different than what Billy Donovan did a few years ago and he certainly wasn't blackballed from the NBA. Similar with guys like Doc Rivers or Brad Stevens who left their teams mid-contract.

So Jordan made a commitment then had a change of heart a few days later before anything was official.  This kind of thing happens all the time in all walks of life, nobody is going to get blackballed here.  This is definitely not worse than Doc or Stevens leaving mid-contract (which is also not a big deal).

[LooseCannon]

Let me say, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he backs out of his contract.  For the same reason teams that give verbal commitments to players in the draft don't back out of them when another player slips.  That agent and player will never be believable again.  Maybe Jordan doesn't care, but that agent does. 

If he agreed to join the Mavs and then backs out without something obvious happening like another player signing there at the same position on the owner making some racial remarks, he will go there.  Otherwise he might want it written into his contract in LA that he doesn't have to play the road games in Dallas.  You don't just screw with a team like that.

Tell that to David West and Carlos Boozer.

Boozer's agency cut ties with him after he signed with Utah.

[danglertx]

Let me say, I think it is HIGHLY unlikely he backs out of his contract.  For the same reason teams that give verbal commitments to players in the draft don't back out of them when another player slips.  That agent and player will never be believable again.  Maybe Jordan doesn't care, but that agent does. 

If he agreed to join the Mavs and then backs out without something obvious happening like another player signing there at the same position on the owner making some racial remarks, he will go there.  Otherwise he might want it written into his contract in LA that he doesn't have to play the road games in Dallas.  You don't just screw with a team like that.

Tell that to David West and Carlos Boozer.

Boozer's agency cut ties with him after he signed with Utah.

Is that agency still around and doing basketball?  It wouldn't surprise me if it tanked.  That is the hazards of being an agent.  You have to know your client and you have to make sure they know what they are getting into when they agree to deals.  Maybe this agent did all he can do, but it will still reflect poorly on him and I wouldn't be surprised if he suffers for it.  Just this story being out there might be enough. 

[Hemingway]

I wonder what the Mavs will do now. We could see a domino effect. Other players can back out too. A lot of guys have a high opinion of playing for Cuban. We'll see what happens.

The article on realGM had a funny line, "The Clippers will stay with Jordan at his house until he signs his new contract."

If Dallas is SOL maybe Danny and Mark can work out a win win deal. If it makes sense for Dallas to rebuild they would need their pick back. But aside from Parsons and Dirk they have nothing to offer. How about this for a crazy idea, rework the Lee trade so that Lee goes to Dallas along with Sully Turner, their 1st round pick back and 1 or 2 additional first round picks for Dirk and Parsons. Dirk would have to agree to it and we would still be without a big center.

Smart/Rozier
AB/IT
Parsons/Crowder
Dirk/Johnson
Zeller/KO

Then still go after Cousins if he becomes available. Parsons plus all the picks for DMC.

[droopdog7]

I wonder what the Mavs will do now. We could see a domino effect. Other players can back out too. A lot of guys have a high opinion of playing for Cuban. We'll see what happens.

The article on realGM had a funny line, "The Clippers will stay with Jordan at his house until he signs his new contract."

If Dallas is SOL maybe Danny and Mark can work out a win win deal. If it makes sense for Dallas to rebuild they would need their pick back. But aside from Parsons and Dirk they have nothing to offer. How about this for a crazy idea, rework the Lee trade so that Lee goes to Dallas along with Sully Turner, their 1st round pick back and 1 or 2 additional first round picks for Dirk and Parsons. Dirk would have to agree to it and we would still be without a big center.

Smart/Rozier
AB/IT
Parsons/Crowder
Dirk/Johnson
Zeller/KO

Then still go after Cousins if he becomes available. Parsons plus all the picks for DMC.

They are not trading dirk.  And they aren't trading dirk and parsons fir that weak offer.  Can we stop trying to screw every team in trades.

And isn't their pick top 7 protected?  If so, it isn't a given they lose their pick next year.

[TheFlex]

If the Sixers are confident Embiid will remain healthy (that confidence would come if Embiid continued to heal throughout the summer) and the Dallas pick shoots up in value, if I was Hinkie I'd re-engage with the Celts on Noel.

I don't think Smart would be part of the discussion, but I could absolutely see both teams agreeing to something like: Rozier, choice of James Young or RJ Hunter, Olynyk (I think Olynyk would be more attractive to Philly but I'd be willing to throw in Sully instead), Jordan Mickey, 2016 DAL 1st, 2016 PHI 2nd for Noel.

We'd have:

Smart/IT
AB/Young or Hunter
Crowder/ET
David Lee/Sully
Noel/Amir Johnson/Zeller

Deal [Young or Hunter] + ET + Zeller for Gallinari, and roll out:

Smart/IT
AB/[Smart]
Gallinari/Crowder
David Lee/Sullinger
Noel/Amir Johnson

That'd be a really fun team.

Wut.

No seriously, what? WHAT?

Like what does any of what you justed posted have to do with DeAndre Jordan turning his back on a handshake deal?

If Garnett decides to retire rather than playing another season in Minnesota, does that mean Hinkie will be open to trading Noel to the Celtics?  I think it does.   

Uhh... if (and now because) DJ left the Mavs, their pick owed to us soars in value. Thus Danny has a shiny new asset to show to Hinkie to convince him to trade Noel - reportedly a target of ours - without demanding Smart.

[TheFlex]

How about the Dallas pick, Rozier, Sully and the Nets 2016 pick

TheFlex would not trade Sully as he has a man crush on him... err that is his favorite player. JK

Meh. I would trade Sully for Noel, but I'm not sure the Sixers would want him. Already in his contract year, injury/behavioral concerns... doesn't seem to fit their MO.

[sawick48]

I wonder what the Mavs will do now. We could see a domino effect. Other players can back out too. A lot of guys have a high opinion of playing for Cuban. We'll see what happens.

The article on realGM had a funny line, "The Clippers will stay with Jordan at his house until he signs his new contract."

If Dallas is SOL maybe Danny and Mark can work out a win win deal. If it makes sense for Dallas to rebuild they would need their pick back. But aside from Parsons and Dirk they have nothing to offer. How about this for a crazy idea, rework the Lee trade so that Lee goes to Dallas along with Sully Turner, their 1st round pick back and 1 or 2 additional first round picks for Dirk and Parsons. Dirk would have to agree to it and we would still be without a big center.

Smart/Rozier
AB/IT
Parsons/Crowder
Dirk/Johnson
Zeller/KO

Then still go after Cousins if he becomes available. Parsons plus all the picks for DMC.

They are not trading dirk.  And they aren't trading dirk and parsons fir that weak offer.  Can we stop trying to screw every team in trades.

And isn't their pick top 7 protected?  If so, it isn't a given they lose their pick next year.

preach brother. dear god, preach!  way too much of that going on around here

[jbpats]

I wonder what the Mavs will do now. We could see a domino effect. Other players can back out too. A lot of guys have a high opinion of playing for Cuban. We'll see what happens.

The article on realGM had a funny line, "The Clippers will stay with Jordan at his house until he signs his new contract."

If Dallas is SOL maybe Danny and Mark can work out a win win deal. If it makes sense for Dallas to rebuild they would need their pick back. But aside from Parsons and Dirk they have nothing to offer. How about this for a crazy idea, rework the Lee trade so that Lee goes to Dallas along with Sully Turner, their 1st round pick back and 1 or 2 additional first round picks for Dirk and Parsons. Dirk would have to agree to it and we would still be without a big center.

Smart/Rozier
AB/IT
Parsons/Crowder
Dirk/Johnson
Zeller/KO

Then still go after Cousins if he becomes available. Parsons plus all the picks for DMC.

They are not trading dirk.  And they aren't trading dirk and parsons fir that weak offer.  Can we stop trying to screw every team in trades.

And isn't their pick top 7 protected?  If so, it isn't a given they lose their pick next year.

preach brother. dear god, preach!  way too much of that going on around here

As others have mentioned, Dirk isn't going anywhere. I do however see Parsons as a possibility if the price is right.
Having said that I highly doubt the Mavs want their pick back. This year's draft is weak so the pick doesn't hold much value for them even if they finish outside of the top 7.. not to mention I see the C's holding out until 2017 if it falls in the 10-15 range.