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[Scintan]

What players have the Celtics not developed to expectations?

They turned Kendrick Perkins from a tall kid without a single recognizeable NBA skill into the starting center on a championship team (and two other Finals teams).

Avery Bradley was a 19th overall pick who has turned into all defensive 2nd teamer.

Rondo was a 21st overall pick who had 2 top ten finishes in MVP voting while in Boston.

Marcus Smart was the #6 pick and made the rookie 2nd team.

So beause Jared Sullinger (21st pick) and Kelly Olynyk (13th pick in a terrible draft) aren't all stars yet, the Celtics are bad at developing talent?

You dont make a very convincing case by showing 4 picks going back 12 YEARS (Perkins) that you could make the case have met expectations.  Perk and Rondo played along side the big 3 and you could argue they had as much impact on their success than any coaching.  See how poorly they've done since those days.  The other 2 guys have made second NBA teams, big deal.  Big Al and Tony Allen have had their moments but our drafts are littered with bad players.  We have been average in player development.

I've always looked at it more as Ainge being able to spot guys who have an NBA-level skill later in the draft, but not being able to find any complete players in that shallowest end of the shallowest talent pool of the 'Big 4' U.S. Sports.

In other words, I'd say that Ainge's drafting has been poor, but it should have been poor, given where he's been drafting.  That leads to the position that the development of players has been at least acceptable, if not better.

Just my take.

[Celtics4ever]

What players have the Celtics not developed to expectations?

Guys Ainge has drafted in the first round that have not worked out.

Jajuan Johnson - Athletic but never put it together
JR Giddens - A reach at best
Dahntay Jones - Traded for Marcus Banks
Gerald Green - took years to develop
Fab Melo -  below average college player and a worse pro

Ainge is a great GM, but drafting is his weakest area.   He does have knack for finding second rounders who can play.  But is human and not all his picks have panned out.   He does gamble sometimes like on Sully who can play, but has his faults.  Sully does not belong on this list.

[Big333223]

What players have the Celtics not developed to expectations?

Guys Ainge has drafted in the first round that have not worked out.

Jajuan Johnson - Athletic but never put it together
JR Giddens - A reach at best
Dahntay Jones - Traded for Marcus Banks
Gerald Green - took years to develop
Fab Melo -  below average college player and a worse pro

Ainge is a great GM, but drafting is his weakest area.   He does have knack for finding second rounders who can play.  But is human and not all his picks have panned out.   He does gamble sometimes like on Sully who can play, but has his faults.  Sully does not belong on this list.

That's fine but it's not what I asked at all.

[Big333223]

So let me get this straight. If the Celtics draft a player and he turns out to be really good we are great at developing players.

If we draft someone and who stinks it up like Jajuan Johnson or Fab it's because they have zero skill and not a negative reflection on us developing them.

Flawless logic.

No. If the Celtics draft someone and that player, after spending a reasonable time with the team, exceeds expectations, it suggest they are good at developing players. If players consistently play below expectations despite time with the coachs, then they're bad. No one seems to be able to come up with an example of the latter.

Players with low expectations who flamed out of the league entirely (as opposed to being picked up somewhere else and developed by another team while still young) are not indicative of not being able to develop players.