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Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2015, 10:47:30 PM »

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Scott Souza ?@scott_souza 5h5 hours ago

#Celtics president Danny Ainge said it's rare a player truly opens his eyes in pre-draft workout. Asked if it happened this year, said "Yes"


So, let's get the speculation going.  Who opened Danny's eyes, and is this who the Celts will try and move up in the draft to select?
I would guess Justin Anderson, Portis, Harrell or RHJ. However, as of last Saturday they stopped allowing media to be at the workouts.

So the players he liked could have been guys we didn't know they worked out.  Hopefully the guy he really liked is someone we are going to trade up for.
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Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2015, 10:51:58 PM »

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eddie20 , no offense but scouts who think similar to you are the ones that miss out on good players like Draymond Green, Taj Gibson, Boozer etc.

It's not always about needing to 6'10 and over requirement to be a  good pf in the nba.   If you can make a jump shot that is fine, but how else can you impact the game??

The question is, can you play??  How do you help your team?  Both Portis and Mickey were valuable for their college teams.  Mickey was the defensive anchor for the LSU and played center (out of position) for most of the year.  And he still did a fine job.  He can guard multiple positions and is considered the best shot blocking talent of the 2015 draft.  His offensive capability is a bonus.

The things you say, man. Who said that? His mom? The way you go on and on about a fringe level prospect is crazy. How about we let it go and will relive it once the draft comes and goes and Mickey gets drafted where he belongs.

I watched the Draft Combine again and Mickey is a really good shot blocker.  Best in the draft, not sure about that, but he is really good.

We've already had the discussion that undersized college shot blockers don't translate well into the NBA. The 3 best shot blockers prospects are WCS, Towns, and Upshaw in how they translate to the next level.

you really have little to no idea what your talking about

WCS, Towns, Upshaw are trees. So they will be good shot blockers at the next level.  That is how you think

There is a little more than size and decent athleticism = great shot blocker.   

Why don't you next explain to me why Faried is such a poor rebounder??  If you know this is not true, tell me, before he was drafted, what made him a good rebounder and also  how he is such a good rebounder in the nba now?

No, they aren't good shotblockers because they're "trees". They are good shotblockers because they have positional size, length, athleticism, timing, etc. One of the most important things for rim protection is having a solid standing reach coupled with timing. You don't necessarily have to be a great athlete.

Your Faried talk is pointless and nonsensical. Undersized players have been successful rebounders throughout history. This has no correlation to shotblocking.

the crazy part I keep hearing from you is how undersized Mickey is.     Can you tell me, does it make a difference in the big picture if a guy is 6'8 with a 7'3 wingspan vs a 6'10 guys with a 7 ft wingspan?? Also if that 6'8 guy has a 37 inch vertical?  Mickey already has top 3 max vertical for a pf in the nba .  I don't think you understand how high his max vertical reach is

when you block shots you just don't stand there usually. You need to jump. Especially blocking from standstill or when covering alot of ground

The wingspan isn't as important as standing reach when it comes to shotblocking. Wingspan is more important in the passing lanes and playing perimeter defense (being wide/taking up space).

Max vert is really overrated for shotblocking.

How long have you been watching basketball? Just curious.

seriously?? lol

Have you seen me around here? come on man

When I called you out on some guys you liked in past drafts you said "I know more now". So just wondering. If you've only been watching as long as you've been a member here that's not a long time at all.

some of the things you say, like "Kravish came in to workout twice so Danny will pick him at 16"

Makes me wonder how little you understand about the draft process. 

You didn't get the sarcasm?

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2015, 11:01:13 PM »

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They brought Smart back for a second workout because they thought he under-performed in his first and liked his potential and character. A second workout is no evidence that the first workout "opened" any eyes. If anything, a truly eye-opening workout would not require a follow-up.

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2015, 11:11:39 PM »

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They brought Smart back for a second workout because they thought he under-performed in his first and liked his potential and character. A second workout is no evidence that the first workout "opened" any eyes. If anything, a truly eye-opening workout would not require a follow-up.

Then why was randle asked to come in for a 2nd workout?

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2015, 11:25:58 PM »

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They brought Smart back for a second workout because they thought he under-performed in his first and liked his potential and character. A second workout is no evidence that the first workout "opened" any eyes. If anything, a truly eye-opening workout would not require a follow-up.

Then why was randle asked to come in for a 2nd workout?

I don't know. One way or the other, they liked Smart more and either way, a second workout clearly doesn't mean that they are locking in on a player (either Randle also had a bad first workout or they just didn't get enough info).

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2015, 11:34:43 PM »

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You have to think that it opens his eyes in relation to where we are drafting.  It's not like he had Towns in and was unimpressed but then Portis came in and blew him away.

This is no indication that the player he has pegged will be a future star, it just means that he was a whole lot better than expected or advertised.

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2015, 11:40:26 PM »

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You have to think that it opens his eyes in relation to where we are drafting.  It's not like he had Towns in and was unimpressed but then Portis came in and blew him away.

This is no indication that the player he has pegged will be a future star, it just means that he was a whole lot better than expected or advertised.

This is my interpretation as well, though it could also refer to guys he expects to be good (Johnson) but who show flashes of true greatness. That's why I suggested Looney and Vaughn as well.

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2015, 02:56:20 PM »

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Jordan Mickey looks like the only player that was brought in for a individual 2nd workout (it was today).     Hope it went well

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/06/prospect-jordan-mickey.html

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2015, 09:42:34 PM »

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I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I think Danny's eyes were opened by:

Terry Rozier

Re: Which Workout Caught Danny's Eye?
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2015, 09:46:50 PM »

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I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I think Danny's eyes were opened by:

Terry Rozier

Was searching for this thread to post the same thing.  TP for beating me to the punch.