Celtics to target Turner

[Evantime34]

Apparently the C's are going radio silent on who they are working out from here on out. Doing this indicates they don't want people to know what they are doing. It is unlikely they would try to keep everything under wraps then leak a rumor like that.

I am a big Myles Turner fan, but to me this report screams smoke screen and makes me think it's unlikely we trade u for him

[PhoSita]

I think the Celtics are trying hard to confirm the prevailing wisdom out there -- "they need rim protectors!  they need to draft a center!"

My guess -- whether they trade up or stay put, they end up drafting a potential shooter or playmaker.

[A Future of Stevens]

While this seems like a typical DA smokescreen, I really hope that it isn't. Turner is the rare prospect who the Celtics won't have to sell the farm to get. In terms of risk, obviously banking on a 19 year old who runs awkwardly is problematic. However, I keep seeing most scouting reports say that the skill most likely to translate easily is the blocking shots aspect of his game. Worst case scenario we add a shot blocker who gets minutes solely for that, and best case scenario (and I mean absolute best) he could be one of the best two way bigs to come out of the class.

Also, when a guy with 9'4" standing reach comes along, who has a very good shooting touch, and can hit his free throws, AND BLOCK SHOTS, you shouldn't look the other way.

Just my two cents.

[mmmmm]

While this seems like a typical DA smokescreen, I really hope that it isn't. Turner is the rare prospect who the Celtics won't have to sell the farm to get. In terms of risk, obviously banking on a 19 year old who runs awkwardly is problematic. However, I keep seeing most scouting reports say that the skill most likely to translate easily is the blocking shots aspect of his game. Worst case scenario we add a shot blocker who gets minutes solely for that, and best case scenario (and I mean absolute best) he could be one of the best two way bigs to come out of the class.

Also, when a guy with 9'4" standing reach comes along, who has a very good shooting touch, and can hit his free throws, AND BLOCK SHOTS, you shouldn't look the other way.

Just my two cents.

Blocking shots is such a tiny part of playing good defense.  I just can't get as excited about it as you are.

To me, the ability to get in proper position, quickly and correctly, is THE most important aspect of playing defense in basketball.  You have to do that ALL the time you are on defense.  A blocked shot happens just a couple of times a game.

[Future Celtics Owner]

While this seems like a typical DA smokescreen, I really hope that it isn't. Turner is the rare prospect who the Celtics won't have to sell the farm to get. In terms of risk, obviously banking on a 19 year old who runs awkwardly is problematic. However, I keep seeing most scouting reports say that the skill most likely to translate easily is the blocking shots aspect of his game. Worst case scenario we add a shot blocker who gets minutes solely for that, and best case scenario (and I mean absolute best) he could be one of the best two way bigs to come out of the class.

Also, when a guy with 9'4" standing reach comes along, who has a very good shooting touch, and can hit his free throws, AND BLOCK SHOTS, you shouldn't look the other way.

Just my two cents.

Turner has already made improvements to his hips and gluten which the report stated was a major factor for his awkward running. Also I guess Turner use to wear shoes that were too big for him and they had a negative impact, some kids I played ball with has shoes that were too big.
I get that people are skeptical, and thats a good thing because he has fallen bc of it, but he's not like Sullinger; the kid work extremely hard and is also respectful (says yes sir and yes mam). He has a very good therapy and stretching routine every day and thats on top of basketball shoot around and drills etc.

I am almost 100 percent sure that if Turner was on another team or had another coach we would not be able to get him. Firstly, his coach was a great recruiter but horrible coach. Second Texas had no threats from outside so teams packed it in on defense so no one could cut and every time Turner got the ball the wing player (who obv knew his guy was not shooting the three)would double team or cheat on Turner. Making it very very difficult to maneuver or do his deadly turn around jumper(also college floor is cramped enough as it is).

But your right Turner has an excellent touch on his shot. If you watch earlier videos his stance while shooting a jumper is very wide even in college. Since then his shot stance has tightened a bit, could be better, and I suspect over time it will.

[Future Celtics Owner]

While this seems like a typical DA smokescreen, I really hope that it isn't. Turner is the rare prospect who the Celtics won't have to sell the farm to get. In terms of risk, obviously banking on a 19 year old who runs awkwardly is problematic. However, I keep seeing most scouting reports say that the skill most likely to translate easily is the blocking shots aspect of his game. Worst case scenario we add a shot blocker who gets minutes solely for that, and best case scenario (and I mean absolute best) he could be one of the best two way bigs to come out of the class.

Also, when a guy with 9'4" standing reach comes along, who has a very good shooting touch, and can hit his free throws, AND BLOCK SHOTS, you shouldn't look the other way.

Just my two cents.

Blocking shots is such a tiny part of playing good defense.  I just can't get as excited about it as you are.

To me, the ability to get in proper position, quickly and correctly, is THE most important aspect of playing defense in basketball.  You have to do that ALL the time you are on defense.  A blocked shot happens just a couple of times a game.

I agree about being able to get in position quickly and also being able to drop down to contest an opponents shot. Roy Hibbert had the worst time with this and so do many other big unathletic and slow centers. IMO Turner is dif and has potential to even play the 4, but he has to get his gate better so he can get quicker. I've always like Rudy Gobert because at least he can switch and drop down quick to contest a shot.

[chambers]

What would targeting Turner mean for the direction of the team?  He doesn't turn 20 until next year and, to use an easy comparison, Vonleh as basically the same age could barely get off the bench for a terrible Hornets team.  If you consider that it will take at least 16 and 28 to get him, and probably more, would that indicate Ainge is settling in for a longer rebuild?

Mike

Danny's just going to take who they see as the bpa or the potential to be the bpa.
I think with someone like Turner, they're thinking that he'd go top 5 in a year or two so they see him as very good value.
I don't think you have to read into it that the plan is changing to 'longer term' with someone like Turner, I think they just always take the best guy whilst trying to keep the rebuild as fast as possible.
That fast rebuild just may never happen or opportunities may never arise....so if they dont arise, then we arr still in a great position for a longer rebuild scenario.

[LooseCannon]

What would targeting Turner mean for the direction of the team?  He doesn't turn 20 until next year and, to use an easy comparison, Vonleh as basically the same age could barely get off the bench for a terrible Hornets team.  If you consider that it will take at least 16 and 28 to get him, and probably more, would that indicate Ainge is settling in for a longer rebuild?

Mike

I feel that the reason Vonleh didn't get off of the bench because he had a coach that could care less for player development. Steve Clifford played his "best" players to get the best record to save himself from getting fired. Same case in Orlando.

Clifford claimed it was because Vonleh missed all of preseason due to hernia surgery, so he was behind in his development and not ready for meaningful minutes.

[Denis998]

What would targeting Turner mean for the direction of the team?  He doesn't turn 20 until next year and, to use an easy comparison, Vonleh as basically the same age could barely get off the bench for a terrible Hornets team.  If you consider that it will take at least 16 and 28 to get him, and probably more, would that indicate Ainge is settling in for a longer rebuild?

Mike

I feel that the reason Vonleh didn't get off of the bench because he had a coach that could care less for player development. Steve Clifford played his "best" players to get the best record to save himself from getting fired. Same case in Orlando.

Clifford claimed it was because Vonleh missed all of preseason due to hernia surgery, so he was behind in his development and not ready for meaningful minutes.

Do you know if he played any D-League at all, like did James Young? Seems like a waste of a year of development if he didn't.

[LooseCannon]

What would targeting Turner mean for the direction of the team?  He doesn't turn 20 until next year and, to use an easy comparison, Vonleh as basically the same age could barely get off the bench for a terrible Hornets team.  If you consider that it will take at least 16 and 28 to get him, and probably more, would that indicate Ainge is settling in for a longer rebuild?

Mike

I feel that the reason Vonleh didn't get off of the bench because he had a coach that could care less for player development. Steve Clifford played his "best" players to get the best record to save himself from getting fired. Same case in Orlando.

Clifford claimed it was because Vonleh missed all of preseason due to hernia surgery, so he was behind in his development and not ready for meaningful minutes.

Do you know if he played any D-League at all, like did James Young? Seems like a waste of a year of development if he didn't.

Charlotte doesn't have an exclusive D-League affiliate, so he only played two games in the D-League.

[Denis998]

What would targeting Turner mean for the direction of the team?  He doesn't turn 20 until next year and, to use an easy comparison, Vonleh as basically the same age could barely get off the bench for a terrible Hornets team.  If you consider that it will take at least 16 and 28 to get him, and probably more, would that indicate Ainge is settling in for a longer rebuild?

Mike

I feel that the reason Vonleh didn't get off of the bench because he had a coach that could care less for player development. Steve Clifford played his "best" players to get the best record to save himself from getting fired. Same case in Orlando.

Clifford claimed it was because Vonleh missed all of preseason due to hernia surgery, so he was behind in his development and not ready for meaningful minutes.

Do you know if he played any D-League at all, like did James Young? Seems like a waste of a year of development if he didn't.

Charlotte doesn't have an exclusive D-League affiliate, so he only played two games in the D-League.

Feel bad for the kid, has to sit on the bench the whole season because his coach found a reason not to play his rookie. He should have stayed in college for a extra year, would have done loads for his future.

[Smartacus]

Danny looking like the emperor. Execute media protocol 66... Myles Turner Smoke Screen.

[Future Celtics Owner]

What would targeting Turner mean for the direction of the team?  He doesn't turn 20 until next year and, to use an easy comparison, Vonleh as basically the same age could barely get off the bench for a terrible Hornets team.  If you consider that it will take at least 16 and 28 to get him, and probably more, would that indicate Ainge is settling in for a longer rebuild?

Mike

I feel that the reason Vonleh didn't get off of the bench because he had a coach that could care less for player development. Steve Clifford played his "best" players to get the best record to save himself from getting fired. Same case in Orlando.

Clifford claimed it was because Vonleh missed all of preseason due to hernia surgery, so he was behind in his development and not ready for meaningful minutes.

Do you know if he played any D-League at all, like did James Young? Seems like a waste of a year of development if he didn't.

Charlotte doesn't have an exclusive D-League affiliate, so he only played two games in the D-League.

Feel bad for the kid, has to sit on the bench the whole season because his coach found a reason not to play his rookie. He should have stayed in college for a extra year, would have done loads for his future.

I was really high on him after his combine. He went to school in NH right near the lake my family "summers". Anyway he has an insane vertical and pretty good length:9' standing reach, 7'4.25'' wingspan. Anyways he looked very skinny sr year of hs and then gained a lot of muscle and cut fat. Either he has great genetic (possible) or he took something. Remember draft night we cited character issues with Noah. One of the younger Ainge's played basketball with him in AAU, I think thats where they got their info from.

Also I tried doing research on him this year.....good joke, he barely played in any games....d league included.

[JHTruth]

I'd consider WCS or Turner a win in this draft.

Who am I kidding we're going to get Sam Dekker..

[LooseCannon]

What would targeting Turner mean for the direction of the team?  He doesn't turn 20 until next year and, to use an easy comparison, Vonleh as basically the same age could barely get off the bench for a terrible Hornets team.  If you consider that it will take at least 16 and 28 to get him, and probably more, would that indicate Ainge is settling in for a longer rebuild?

Mike

I feel that the reason Vonleh didn't get off of the bench because he had a coach that could care less for player development. Steve Clifford played his "best" players to get the best record to save himself from getting fired. Same case in Orlando.

Clifford claimed it was because Vonleh missed all of preseason due to hernia surgery, so he was behind in his development and not ready for meaningful minutes.

Do you know if he played any D-League at all, like did James Young? Seems like a waste of a year of development if he didn't.

Charlotte doesn't have an exclusive D-League affiliate, so he only played two games in the D-League.

Feel bad for the kid, has to sit on the bench the whole season because his coach found a reason not to play his rookie. He should have stayed in college for a extra year, would have done loads for his future.

I don't think a rookie should be force fed minutes if he's not ready just because a high draft pick may have been used on him.