Danny should stay put

[krumeto]

I think we will get stanley johnson from the draft... and koufos as a center

I'd be pretty happy with this outcome.

Fun team to watch next year with Koufus protecting the rim, but more importantly - plenty of top talent in the Smart, Young, SJ trio.

[boscel33]

Why is everyone so high on Koufos?  He's a career 6/4 guy.  Don't we want a little more?  Zeller is 8/5 and is younger.  Both are 7 feet, Koufos has about 12 more pounds. I'll keep Zeller and try for more somewhere else like even Robin Lopez who is the same age as Koufos but two seasons ago was 11/9 and career wise he's 10/7.

[krumeto]

Why is everyone so high on Koufos?  He's a career 6/4 guy.  Don't we want a little more?  Zeller is 8/5 and is younger.  Both are 7 feet, Koufos has about 12 more pounds. I'll keep Zeller and try for more somewhere else like even Robin Lopez who is the same age as Koufos but two seasons ago was 11/9 and career wise he's 10/7.

I like Robin Lopez way, way better than Koufus.

Kosta will be however our best defensive big and by a huge margin. He is both a good big man defender and mobile enough in the PnR. He would be our best rebounder  and by far our best rim protector. Nothing to speak about on offense, which is the reason I do not think he is a big overall upgrade over Zeller.

Koufus just fits needs and fits them reasonably well. I'd prefer a star. I'd prefer a very good role player like Robin Lopez.

The only thing I do not want is another season without a good defender at the 5 or 4. Look what Mozgov did to Cav's Defense.

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Koufus paired with Sully/KO is both a better fit for the starting 5 and slides Zeller to the bench to p'N'r defense with IT to the beat.

[YeezusChrist]

DA won't trade for a number, it will be to get a specific player. He's not a speculator. Everybody seems to agree on who the top 2 picks will be and most agree on 3. My bet would be WCS at 4 for DA, if not then another big.

Once you get past the 6th pick the value in trading to move up becomes a lot less, especially because there is upside with all the present assets we would likely have to give up.

I am not sure if the plan is to strike this summer or to build assets and keep developing, I understand the desire to give fans a competitive team by upgrading to be contenders. My guess is DA is prepared to go either way, depending on what he can achieve in the draft and free agency. I have faith he will only strike if the iron is truly hot and not waste assets on minor upgrades.

If Ainge moves up in the draft, it will most likely be to leapfrog a team like the Hawks or Thunder to grab a player one of those teams covet.  If he trades up, I expect the Celtics to be grabbing Cameron Payne or a falling Frank Kaminsky.

I expect this too but not for Kaminsky, if Payne falls to 13 you can bet danny calls up the Suns and offers 16 + 28 for 13 and a future 2nd
After that IT, Turner, or bradley will be getting shipped away for more assets to make room for Crowder, Young, and Payne mins (most likely turner and/or bradley, maybe bradley for 12 to get Myles turner if he was there)

I think eventually bradley will get phased out by Payne and the lineup will be
Smart
Payne
Young(Im very optimistic and think Young is going to surprise everyone and take the starting spot)
Sully
(Monroe?, Upshaw?, Johnson?, Hibbert?, Lopez?? only if we want more ping pong balls)

[boscel33]

My only point is, I think Zeller and Koufos are the same person.

Koufos last year averaged 16.6 minutes, 5.2 points, 5.3 rebounds, .8 blocks per game.  Two years ago, when Zeller was not starting for Cleveland, 15 minutes, 5.7 points, 4 rebounds, .5 blocks per game.

In 12/13 Koufos as a starter did 22 minutes 8 points 6.9 rebounds 1.3 blocks per game. This was his 6th year in the league. Last year as a starter, Zeller did 21 minutes, 10.2 points, 5.7 rebounds, and .6 blocks per game. This was his third year in the league.

I think Zeller is ahead of Koufos and younger.

[krumeto]

My only point is, I think Zeller and Koufos are the same person.

Koufos last year averaged 16.6 minutes, 5.2 points, 5.3 rebounds, .8 blocks per game.  Two years ago, when Zeller was not starting for Cleveland, 15 minutes, 5.7 points, 4 rebounds, .5 blocks per game.

In 12/13 Koufos as a starter did 22 minutes 8 points 6.9 rebounds 1.3 blocks per game. This was his 6th year in the league. Last year as a starter, Zeller did 21 minutes, 10.2 points, 5.7 rebounds, and .6 blocks per game. This was his third year in the league.

I think Zeller is ahead of Koufos and younger.

We have 3 bigs in Zeller, KO and Sully, who are significantly better on offense, than on defense. Koufus, on the other hand, is better on D, than on O and his D would be a significant upgrade over anyone's on the team.

That is why I think he is a good fit. He brings something to the table we currently lack and need.

[SHAQATTACK]

I'm sure he'll try and make a deal to move up .....if one is available .......I think though it's not likely he get to .

Greater chance as usual

Of nothing happening , but him taking the 16 th.

Unless .....he Buys a guy from a lottery team .  He know s a certain team is taking a certain player and he has an offer of assets to swap to get that player .  Maybe a deal is in the works , and won't happen till draft night.   

We just won't know.


Maybe he'll swap out KO and Sully and AB. .....semi tank .....and take a large gamble on a guy.

[KeepRondo]

He should trade up, but not for a pick in the top 7. I'd love to see us get Stanley Johnson. I think he could be a Luol Deng 2.0.

I hope so. He's been falling out of the top 10 on a lot of draft boards. He could be the biggest steal of the draft if he slides that far.

[KeepRondo]

Why is everyone so high on Koufos?  He's a career 6/4 guy.  Don't we want a little more?  Zeller is 8/5 and is younger.  Both are 7 feet, Koufos has about 12 more pounds. I'll keep Zeller and try for more somewhere else like even Robin Lopez who is the same age as Koufos but two seasons ago was 11/9 and career wise he's 10/7.

I like Zeller but he needs to add a lot of muscle. He gives up inside position way too easy and gets killed by good offensive rebounders.

[Celtics4ever]

I think Koufos has better footwork but Zeller is more athletic.

[walker834]

i dont want koufos or lopez.   ill bu y you a donut if the celtics actually get them because that's about the chance of it happening as well.

If the celtics trade up it should be for stein, turner or porzingis.  Turner is the guy i like out of those guys the most.  Or johnson, hesonja or winslow.  not sure who i like there.  probably johnson or winslow.

Turner, Stein and stanley johnson are the 3 guys i've liked for a while.  Winslow has grown on me, same with Porzingis, but not sure i see it. 

Obviously Okafor or Towns......

The c's have options.   I'd still feel pretty confident with Dekker though but it really  depends.   If we can do better by all means.

I just dont see Koufos or Lopez as really being that for us.  Probably overpriced and not really that good.

[walker834]

Turner, Stein or Porzingis make the most sense to me if we move up as a project big though. I'm not sure i see us moving up for a wing unless one of those guys really stands out. Thing is we have James Young and Crowder already so moving up for a project big to go with Zeller might make some sense.  I keep forgetting we have James Young.

I just am not sure Turner, Stein or Porzingis are that good or that much of a jump over a guy like Javale Mcgee as a project and wait.   we could trade out of this draft as well.

I also dont see us targetting guys like Monroe.  It's going to be kevin love or a guy like cousins if we go that route which is still out on cloud 9 somewhere.