Would you give up AB + 16 to get into the top 10 ?

[Rosco917]

I had a tough time with this question. Finally settling on a yes answer.

We need to come up with scoring punch, as good as AB is on the D end of the court, he's a streaky scorer, he's too small to take on the bigger 2 guards in the NBA, and not versatile enough to be a go to guy. 

If we can get to 10 or better in the draft, we could get a young player with good potential, and then replace Avery with a free agent.

[BDeCosta26]

Very very conditional. Depends on who is available and how sure I am of him making it in this league, otherwise no way.

That's just it. Totally dependent on who's available. For Winslow or WCS maybe. If I'm trading Bradley and 16 just to slide up a few spots I would want a capable, young replacement included. The rumored Jazz deal makes sense because we could get Hood and 12 in return while keeping 16. Like of Charlotte wants him, I want Hairston. If we include him in a package with SAC, McLemore or at least Stauskus should be coming back. AB is worth more to the Celtics than most of the guys available 9-12. Unless Winslow, WCS and MAYBE Johnson is there, I wouldn't want to part with AB and 16 just for another pick a few spots up that isn't a real steal.

[crimson_stallion]

This site over values draft picks. Bradley's going nowhere.

this site over values 3+d role players

Avery Bradley is not (by definition of the term) a 3+D role player, so your argument is invalid.

The perfect example of a 3+D player is Bruce Bowen.  He had zero ZERO offensive game outside of their ability to knock down threes, as evidenced by the fact that he shot 39% from three for his career, yet averaged only 8 points per 36 minutes.    Almost half (46%) of all his career field goal attempts were three point shots.  71% of his 2 point shots were assisted, and 99% of his 3 point shots were assisted - he was ultimately completely incapable of creating offense.

He was a '3+d' player because he was a pure role players who's only talents were lock down defense and knocking down spot up threes.

This is vastly different to Avery Bradley who's averages of 17 and 16 points per 36 over the past two seasons indicate that he is clearly more than just a spot up three point shooter on offense.  As does the fact that only about 50% of his field goal attempts were assisted - so he's actually quite capable of creating his own offense. 

So again, Avery Bradley is NOT a 3+D role player.  He'd a good defender and he's a solid three point shooter, but that's not ALL he does.

[Eja117]

This site over values draft picks. Bradley's going nowhere.

this site over values 3+d role players

You mean like Austin Rivers and Jimmer and Brandon Jennings....who were picked....tenth?

[rondohondo]

This site over values draft picks. Bradley's going nowhere.

this site over values 3+d role players

Avery Bradley is not (by definition of the term) a 3+D role player, so your argument is invalid.

The perfect example of a 3+D player is Bruce Bowen.  He had zero ZERO offensive game outside of their ability to knock down threes, as evidenced by the fact that he shot 39% from three for his career, yet averaged only 8 points per 36 minutes.    Almost half (46%) of all his career field goal attempts were three point shots.  71% of his 2 point shots were assisted, and 99% of his 3 point shots were assisted - he was ultimately completely incapable of creating offense.

He was a '3+d' player because he was a pure role players who's only talents were lock down defense and knocking down spot up threes.

This is vastly different to Avery Bradley who's averages of 17 and 16 points per 36 over the past two seasons indicate that he is clearly more than just a spot up three point shooter on offense.  As does the fact that only about 50% of his field goal attempts were assisted - so he's actually quite capable of creating his own offense. 

So again, Avery Bradley is NOT a 3+D role player.  He'd a good defender and he's a solid three point shooter, but that's not ALL he does.

sry he is a 3+d role player with a 1 dribble jumper . Other than that tell me what he does above average ?

He can't create offense, and has 2 shots he is decent at 3pt shooting and long 2 pt shots )

He can't get to the rim, doesn't have a floater , can't guard legit guards with 6'5 or taller, is a turnover machine if he takes more than 1 or 2 dribbles , can't pass .

We can easily replace him through free agency or trades .

[crimson_stallion]

I think this is way to steep. I say trade AB for Whiteside and 10.

That's much more appealing, but I doubt Miami does that to be honest.  Especially with the Bosh medical issues.

I think Miami hold Whiteside in very high value right now, it would probably take a lot to pry him away.  Might be cheaper (and just as effective) to trade for a pick that can get us WCS. 

I don't think Whiteside offers anything that WCS doesn't really - actually I think WCS probably has higher upside do to his elite athleticism / mobility for his size/position. 

[Eja117]

True. D Wade is 6ft 4 and Avery owned him. But guarding guards that are 6ft 5.  That's probably asking too much of the 24 year old all nab 2nd team defender.

[slamtheking]

Nope. Bradley + 28 and/or 33 I would do, but to move up only 8 spots at most into the lottery you're not getting Bradley AND 16.

ditto

this.

[crimson_stallion]

sry he is a 3+d role player with a 1 dribble jumper . Other than that tell me what he does above average ?

He can't create offense, and has 2 shots he is decent at 3pt shooting and long 2 pt shots )

He can't get to the rim, doesn't have a floater ,

Again, Bradley averaged 17 Points Per 36 while shooting 39% from three.  This year he averaged around 16 Points Per 36 while shooting around 35% from three. 

That's two seasons in a row that Bradley has put up Tobias Harris type scoring numbers - the type of numbers you expect from a #3 scoring option on a 3rd of 4th seed Eastern Conference playoff team.

Look at all of the Eastern Conference Playoff teams this year - outside of Cleveland (obviously) and maybe Chicago, which of those teams had a #3 scoring option who averaged significantly better than 17 points per 36 on 35%-39% three point shooting?

I'd say not many.

Avery Bradley is by no means an elite scorer - he's not a guy who can carry a team night in, night out with his scoring because he's just not skilled or consistent enough.  He is, however, a good offensive player and a pretty capable scorer.

Again, you just don't put up 17 Pts Per 36 on 44% / 39% / 80% shooting as a guard in this league unless you're a pretty capable scorer.  NBA defense is not that forgiving. 

can't guard legit guards with 6'5 or taller,

His defensive efforts against Dwyane Wade (back when Wade was in his prime) would suggest otherwise. 

The NBA lists Wade at 6'4" but if you check Wade's college measurements he actually measured 6' 4.75" (so realistically, closer to 6'5") with a 6' 10.5" wingspan.  During their best battles Wade was still in his prime, during which he was an elite athlete and (at around 225 pounds) one of the most physically imposing guards of the past decade.

I think many Cetics fans will probably recall that Bradley has given him a LOT trouble in a past matchups.   

is a turnover machine if he takes more than 1 or 2 dribbles , can't pass .

If you use the term 'turnover machine' in connection with Avery Bradley in any possible way, then you immediately lose all credibility by jumping on the 'make up random crap to diss Bradley' bandwagon that so many CB people love to jump on.

With the exception of his rookie year (where he barely played and was incredibly raw) Bradley has never averaged more than 2 Turnovers Per 36 Minutes in his entire career.  Over the past three seasons he averaged 1.8, 1.9 and 1.6 TO Per 36.  Those are VERY low numbers for a starting guard who is a #2 scoring option for his team, and who has the ball in his hands as often as Bradley does. 

Bradley is needs to improve his passing and ball handling to elevate his game to the next level, we all know that.  But labeling him as a turnover machine is just plain wrong.  His career TO rate (which measures turnovers relative to the number of possessions a player has) of 11.1% is actually extremely good, as can be seen via the link below:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/tov_pct_career.html

Bradley's career number of 11.1% is on par with Danny Granger, who ranks who ranks top 80 all-time) in turnover percentage. 

His numbers over the past two seasons (9.9 and 9.4) are exceptional and up there with some of the very lowest numbers in history. 

Avery Bradley turnovers are dramatically overblown based on the fact that most of the time when he DOES turn the ball over, it's due to unforced error - a bad dribble, a bad pass, etc.  Because of that every time he makes a turnover, it stands out more than with other guys.  However if you actually really watch him play and look at the NUMBER of turnovers he gets, it's actually extremely low.

If you want to use the term ' Turnover machine' that you should save that for somebody like Evan Turner, who's turnover percentage of 19.7% is just downright frightening.

We can easily replace him through free agency or trades .

Avery Bradley is:

1) A former All-Defensive team selection and top 12 defender at his position (according to Defensive RPM stat)

2) Averaged 16 Point Per 36 on 43% / 35% / 79% shooting

3) Averaged only 1.6 Turnovers Per 36 on a turnover rate of 9.6%

4) Averaged 3.5 Rebounds Per 36

5) Is an excellent-to-elite athletic

6) Is 6'3" with a 6'7" wingspan

7) Is 24.2 years old

Off you go, find me a player we can gain (either through trade or free agency) who you believe we have a legit ability to acquire and who can meet or exceed all of the above criteria. 

In fact since you said easily acquire, find me five.

[rondohondo]

sry he is a 3+d role player with a 1 dribble jumper . Other than that tell me what he does above average ?

He can't create offense, and has 2 shots he is decent at 3pt shooting and long 2 pt shots )

He can't get to the rim, doesn't have a floater ,

Again, Bradley averaged 17 Points Per 36 while shooting 39% from three.  This year he averaged around 16 Points Per 36 while shooting around 35% from three. 

That's two seasons in a row that Bradley has put up Tobias Harris type scoring numbers - the type of numbers you expect from a #3 scoring option on a 3rd of 4th seed Eastern Conference playoff team.

Look at all of the Eastern Conference Playoff teams this year - outside of Cleveland (obviously) and maybe Chicago, which of those teams had a #3 scoring option who averaged significantly better than 17 points per 36 on 35%-39% three point shooting?

I'd say not many.

Avery Bradley is by no means an elite scorer - he's not a guy who can carry a team night in, night out with his scoring because he's just not skilled or consistent enough.  He is, however, a good offensive player and a pretty capable scorer.

Again, you just don't put up 17 Pts Per 36 on 44% / 39% / 80% shooting as a guard in this league unless you're a pretty capable scorer.  NBA defense is not that forgiving. 

can't guard legit guards with 6'5 or taller,

His defensive efforts against Dwyane Wade (back when Wade was in his prime) would suggest otherwise.  If you check Wade's college measurements he's 6'5" and 220 pounds with around a  6'10" wingspan and (in his prime) elite athleticism.

Most Cetics fans will probably recall that Bradley gave Wade a LOT trouble in a past matchups.   

is a turnover machine if he takes more than 1 or 2 dribbles , can't pass .

If you use the term 'turnover machine' in connection with Avery Bradley in any possible way, then you immediately lose all credibility by jumping on the 'make up random crap to diss Bradley' bandwagon that so many CB people love to jump on.

With the exception of his rookie year (where he barely played and was incredibly raw) Bradley has never averaged more than 2 Turnovers Per 36 Minutes in his entire career.  Over the past three seasons he averaged 1.8, 1.9 and 1.6 TO Per 36.  Those are VERY low numbers for a starting guard who is a #2 scoring option for his team, and who has the ball in his hands as often as Bradley does. 

Bradley is needs to improve his passing and ball handling to elevate his game to the next level, we all know that.  But labeling him as a turnover machine is just plain wrong.  His career TO rate (which measures turnovers relative to the number of possessions a player has) of 11.1% is actually extremely good, as can be seen via the link below:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/tov_pct_career.html

Bradley's career number of 11.1% is on par with Danny Granger, who ranks who ranks top 80 all-time) in turnover percentage. 

His numbers over the past two seasons (9.9 and 9.4) are exceptional and up there with some of the very lowest numbers in history. 

Avery Bradley turnovers are dramatically overblown based on the fact that most of the time when he DOES turn the ball over, it's due to unforced error - a bad dribble, a bad pass, etc.  Because of that every time he makes a turnover, it stands out more than with other guys.  However if you actually really watch him play and look at the NUMBER of turnovers he gets, it's actually extremely low.

If you want to use the term ' Turnover machine' that you should save that for somebody like Evan Turner, who's turnover percentage of 19.7% is just downright frightening.

We can easily replace him through free agency or trades .

Avery Bradley is:

1) A former All-Defensive team selection and top 12 defender at his position (according to Defensive RPM stat)

2) Averaged 16 Point Per 36 on 43% / 35% / 79% shooting

3) Averaged only 1.6 Turnovers Per 36 on a turnover rate of 9.6%

4) Averaged 3.5 Rebounds Per 36

5) Is an excellent-to-elite athletic

6) Is 6'3" with a 6'7" wingspan

7) Is 24.2 years old

Off you go, find me a player we can gain (either through trade or free agency) who you believe we have a legit ability to acquire and who can meet or exceed all of the above criteria. 

In fact since you said easily acquire, find me five.

Danny Green
Afflalo
wes Matthews

all could easily replace bradley and probably be an upgrade this off-season

Just off the top of my head.

I am not saying Bradley is a bad player , he is just a bench player IMO  and too limited offensively and too undersized defensively  to be a starter on a contending team .

plus you have to take the free throw shooting for what it is, he averages 1 ft attempt per game for his career.

[crimson_stallion]

sry he is a 3+d role player with a 1 dribble jumper . Other than that tell me what he does above average ?

He can't create offense, and has 2 shots he is decent at 3pt shooting and long 2 pt shots )

He can't get to the rim, doesn't have a floater ,

Again, Bradley averaged 17 Points Per 36 while shooting 39% from three.  This year he averaged around 16 Points Per 36 while shooting around 35% from three. 

That's two seasons in a row that Bradley has put up Tobias Harris type scoring numbers - the type of numbers you expect from a #3 scoring option on a 3rd of 4th seed Eastern Conference playoff team.

Look at all of the Eastern Conference Playoff teams this year - outside of Cleveland (obviously) and maybe Chicago, which of those teams had a #3 scoring option who averaged significantly better than 17 points per 36 on 35%-39% three point shooting?

I'd say not many.

Avery Bradley is by no means an elite scorer - he's not a guy who can carry a team night in, night out with his scoring because he's just not skilled or consistent enough.  He is, however, a good offensive player and a pretty capable scorer.

Again, you just don't put up 17 Pts Per 36 on 44% / 39% / 80% shooting as a guard in this league unless you're a pretty capable scorer.  NBA defense is not that forgiving. 

can't guard legit guards with 6'5 or taller,

His defensive efforts against Dwyane Wade (back when Wade was in his prime) would suggest otherwise.  If you check Wade's college measurements he's 6'5" and 220 pounds with around a  6'10" wingspan and (in his prime) elite athleticism.

Most Cetics fans will probably recall that Bradley gave Wade a LOT trouble in a past matchups.   

is a turnover machine if he takes more than 1 or 2 dribbles , can't pass .

If you use the term 'turnover machine' in connection with Avery Bradley in any possible way, then you immediately lose all credibility by jumping on the 'make up random crap to diss Bradley' bandwagon that so many CB people love to jump on.

With the exception of his rookie year (where he barely played and was incredibly raw) Bradley has never averaged more than 2 Turnovers Per 36 Minutes in his entire career.  Over the past three seasons he averaged 1.8, 1.9 and 1.6 TO Per 36.  Those are VERY low numbers for a starting guard who is a #2 scoring option for his team, and who has the ball in his hands as often as Bradley does. 

Bradley is needs to improve his passing and ball handling to elevate his game to the next level, we all know that.  But labeling him as a turnover machine is just plain wrong.  His career TO rate (which measures turnovers relative to the number of possessions a player has) of 11.1% is actually extremely good, as can be seen via the link below:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/tov_pct_career.html

Bradley's career number of 11.1% is on par with Danny Granger, who ranks who ranks top 80 all-time) in turnover percentage. 

His numbers over the past two seasons (9.9 and 9.4) are exceptional and up there with some of the very lowest numbers in history. 

Avery Bradley turnovers are dramatically overblown based on the fact that most of the time when he DOES turn the ball over, it's due to unforced error - a bad dribble, a bad pass, etc.  Because of that every time he makes a turnover, it stands out more than with other guys.  However if you actually really watch him play and look at the NUMBER of turnovers he gets, it's actually extremely low.

If you want to use the term ' Turnover machine' that you should save that for somebody like Evan Turner, who's turnover percentage of 19.7% is just downright frightening.

We can easily replace him through free agency or trades .

Avery Bradley is:

1) A former All-Defensive team selection and top 12 defender at his position (according to Defensive RPM stat)

2) Averaged 16 Point Per 36 on 43% / 35% / 79% shooting

3) Averaged only 1.6 Turnovers Per 36 on a turnover rate of 9.6%

4) Averaged 3.5 Rebounds Per 36

5) Is an excellent-to-elite athletic

6) Is 6'3" with a 6'7" wingspan

7) Is 24.2 years old

Off you go, find me a player we can gain (either through trade or free agency) who you believe we have a legit ability to acquire and who can meet or exceed all of the above criteria. 

In fact since you said easily acquire, find me five.

Danny Green
Afflalo
wes Matthews

all could easily replace bradley and probably be an upgrade this off-season

Just off the top of my head.

I am not saying Bradley is a bad player , he is just a bench player IMO  and too limited offensively and too undersized defensively  to be a starter on a contending team .

plus you have to take the free throw shooting for what it is, he averages 1 ft attempt per game for his career.

Danny Green is 27 years old, has only averaged over 15 points per 36 one time in his career (and that was 4 seasons ago).  He is the purest definition of a 3+D role player since more than 60% of his offence came off three point shots, and almost nearly 70% of his 2PT field goals were assisted.  He isn't really capable of creating his own offense at all, and the vast majority of his offense consists of spot up threes.  Replacing Bradley with Green we get significantly worse offensively, get maybe slightly better defensively (due to his side) and get a guy who's a bit older and hence less upside).  Essentially a either a backwards or sideways step, depending on how you value defense versus offense, and we lose one of only two guys on our roster who is capable of creating offense.

Aaron Afflalo's defensive RPM of -1.84 ranks him 71st among NBA shooting guards - not even CLOSE to a starting calibre defensive player...and his offensive RPM of -1.04 wasn't much better either, and was essentially identical to Bradley's (-1.08).  He's also 30 years old, and he averaged less than 15 points per 36 minutes last year while shooting no better than Bradley (35%) from three.  His rebounding and assist rates this season were dead equal to Bradley's. If we replace Bradley with Afflalo we get significantly worse defensively, gain nothing offensively, and trade a 24 year old with who has upside and a great motor for a 30 year old who doesn't.   

Matthews is a legit replacement for Bradley but he's coming off a major injury, there is absolutely NO indication we have a good chance of getting him (unless you have serious faith in Sherrod Blakeley - which nobody does), and if we did he'd likely  demand a Max contract  or very close to it. 

I'm still not seeing any evidence to suggest that Bradley is 'easily replaceable'.  All I'm seeing is more evidence of how under-appreciated Avery Bradley in Boston.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to be an argumentative PITA or trying to speak of Bradley like his some god of basketball of future superstar, I just think that Bradley offers this team a lot more than people realise.   He does a LOT of little intangible things that don't show up on the box score (like diving after loose balls, clutch defensive plays, locker-room leadership, etc) that I think a lot of people fail to acknowledge. 

I think people just need to understand that you can't have a team full of all stars - the CBA is specifically set up to stop that from happening.  Even the very best teams need to have one or two of those complementary guys in the starting lineup who may not give you all-star skills / stats, but who have a special set of skills that make them a key component to your team's success. 

I think Avery Bradley is one of those players because he has the right attitude, he has a exceptional motor, and he has the skills to contribute on both ends of the court.   That's really all you can ask for from a guy who isn't a big time star.

[BudweiserCeltic]

sry he is a 3+d role player with a 1 dribble jumper . Other than that tell me what he does above average ?

He can't create offense, and has 2 shots he is decent at 3pt shooting and long 2 pt shots )

He can't get to the rim, doesn't have a floater ,

Again, Bradley averaged 17 Points Per 36 while shooting 39% from three.  This year he averaged around 16 Points Per 36 while shooting around 35% from three. 

That's two seasons in a row that Bradley has put up Tobias Harris type scoring numbers - the type of numbers you expect from a #3 scoring option on a 3rd of 4th seed Eastern Conference playoff team.

Look at all of the Eastern Conference Playoff teams this year - outside of Cleveland (obviously) and maybe Chicago, which of those teams had a #3 scoring option who averaged significantly better than 17 points per 36 on 35%-39% three point shooting?

I'd say not many.

Avery Bradley is by no means an elite scorer - he's not a guy who can carry a team night in, night out with his scoring because he's just not skilled or consistent enough.  He is, however, a good offensive player and a pretty capable scorer.

Again, you just don't put up 17 Pts Per 36 on 44% / 39% / 80% shooting as a guard in this league unless you're a pretty capable scorer.  NBA defense is not that forgiving. 

can't guard legit guards with 6'5 or taller,

His defensive efforts against Dwyane Wade (back when Wade was in his prime) would suggest otherwise.  If you check Wade's college measurements he's 6'5" and 220 pounds with around a  6'10" wingspan and (in his prime) elite athleticism.

Most Cetics fans will probably recall that Bradley gave Wade a LOT trouble in a past matchups.   

is a turnover machine if he takes more than 1 or 2 dribbles , can't pass .

If you use the term 'turnover machine' in connection with Avery Bradley in any possible way, then you immediately lose all credibility by jumping on the 'make up random crap to diss Bradley' bandwagon that so many CB people love to jump on.

With the exception of his rookie year (where he barely played and was incredibly raw) Bradley has never averaged more than 2 Turnovers Per 36 Minutes in his entire career.  Over the past three seasons he averaged 1.8, 1.9 and 1.6 TO Per 36.  Those are VERY low numbers for a starting guard who is a #2 scoring option for his team, and who has the ball in his hands as often as Bradley does. 

Bradley is needs to improve his passing and ball handling to elevate his game to the next level, we all know that.  But labeling him as a turnover machine is just plain wrong.  His career TO rate (which measures turnovers relative to the number of possessions a player has) of 11.1% is actually extremely good, as can be seen via the link below:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/tov_pct_career.html

Bradley's career number of 11.1% is on par with Danny Granger, who ranks who ranks top 80 all-time) in turnover percentage. 

His numbers over the past two seasons (9.9 and 9.4) are exceptional and up there with some of the very lowest numbers in history. 

Avery Bradley turnovers are dramatically overblown based on the fact that most of the time when he DOES turn the ball over, it's due to unforced error - a bad dribble, a bad pass, etc.  Because of that every time he makes a turnover, it stands out more than with other guys.  However if you actually really watch him play and look at the NUMBER of turnovers he gets, it's actually extremely low.

If you want to use the term ' Turnover machine' that you should save that for somebody like Evan Turner, who's turnover percentage of 19.7% is just downright frightening.

We can easily replace him through free agency or trades .

Avery Bradley is:

1) A former All-Defensive team selection and top 12 defender at his position (according to Defensive RPM stat)

2) Averaged 16 Point Per 36 on 43% / 35% / 79% shooting

3) Averaged only 1.6 Turnovers Per 36 on a turnover rate of 9.6%

4) Averaged 3.5 Rebounds Per 36

5) Is an excellent-to-elite athletic

6) Is 6'3" with a 6'7" wingspan

7) Is 24.2 years old

Off you go, find me a player we can gain (either through trade or free agency) who you believe we have a legit ability to acquire and who can meet or exceed all of the above criteria. 

In fact since you said easily acquire, find me five.

Danny Green
Afflalo
wes Matthews

all could easily replace bradley and probably be an upgrade this off-season

Just off the top of my head.

I am not saying Bradley is a bad player , he is just a bench player IMO  and too limited offensively and too undersized defensively  to be a starter on a contending team .

plus you have to take the free throw shooting for what it is, he averages 1 ft attempt per game for his career.

All of them older... 3.5-5 years older.

All of them potentially will be more expensive than Bradley.

Matthews will be 29 by the start of the season, and and teared his Achilles tendon. Is that someone you want to invest in?

Afflalo had quite a down year last season, worse than Bradley and having a good role in Portland, he'll be 30 by the start of the season. Not sure that's where I want to look for. Though it's a good fallback option if you manage to bring in other talent by trading Bradley. But even so...

Green, will be 28 by the start of the season and his success with the Spurs will surely find him getting a pretty good contract somewhere. I'd honestly would be very very very cautious of throwing money at him. He seems to me like the player that has benefited a great deal from Pop's great system, and I think if he leaves that environment he'll find himself struggling. That's my opinion though. But certainly an option like explained with Afflalo if you manage to get value for Bradley.

Of course, the old important factor of these players actually wanting to come here... and the aforementioned price tag, all potentially more expensive than Bradley (who's locked in on a [dang] good contract for a few years more).

All in all, the only player of those 3 that I might be tempted by would be Matthews, but the Achilles tendon is a no-go for me, and I think his price tag will be quite steep as well.

[positivitize]

I'd do this for Winslow.

But only because I am dying to have Justise on our team after having "The Truth."

Not because it is a smart move. 28 + 33 + AB sounds more likely

[Hemingway]

I wouldn't unless I had a plan to bring in another guard.

[Future Celtics Owner]

Well Lets hope Myles Turner goes 10-12. That way we can trade Bradley straight up basically. Then Ainge has the opportunity to draft Upshaw at 16 or trade down.

IMO adding Myles Turner, Robert Upshaw, etc and taking away (avery) player who will win us pointless games (as glorified role player) is a great deal.