Sources: 76ers center Joel Embiid suffers setback with right foot

[LarBrd33]

Is Bill Self lying?  Making up stuff for no reason?  OR do you think he actually knows what he's talking about here?


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/06/15/kansas-coach-bill-self-sheds-light-on-joel-embiid-setback/

On Monday, Embiid?s college coach, Bill Self, addressed the media and discussed what he knows about the latest chapter in his former pupil?s story.

Benton Smith of KUSports shared some of Self?s comments on Embiid.

?Basically, he?s been working out and everything, and the doctor told him, based on doing the MRIs or X-rays or whatever they do, even though it feels better, it doesn?t look like it?s made the progress they would hope at this stage, so they were gonna slow him down,? Self told the media.

Self also took the time to draw a distinction between a ?setback,? and what Embiid has been told.

?By no means, from what [Embiid] has told us, ?slow down? does not mean major setback. It means they?re gonna give it a little bit more time to heal before they put him in stressful situations.?

For Sixers fans who were ready to press the panic button, take a step back and take a deep breath. Embiid reportedly was not hurt doing any particular activity and he is not experiencing pain.

Could this be an absolutely dire situation for the franchise? Yes, it absolutely can.

However, it is too early to panic.

Look, until I hear otherwise, the "Embiid's career is over" is a bigger conspiracy theory than some of the stuff Philly fans are throwing out there.

[celticsclay]

Is Bill Self lying?  Making up stuff for no reason?  OR do you think he actually knows what he's talking about here?


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/06/15/kansas-coach-bill-self-sheds-light-on-joel-embiid-setback/

On Monday, Embiid's college coach, Bill Self, addressed the media and discussed what he knows about the latest chapter in his former pupil?s story.

Benton Smith of KUSports shared some of Self's comments on Embiid.

?Basically, he?s been working out and everything, and the doctor told him, based on doing the MRIs or X-rays or whatever they do, even though it feels better, it doesn't look like it?s made the progress they would hope at this stage, so they were gonna slow him down,? Self told the media.

Self also took the time to draw a distinction between a "setback," and what Embiid has been told.

"By no means, from what [Embiid] has told us, "slow down" does not mean major setback. It means they're gonna give it a little bit more time to heal before they put him in stressful situations."

For Sixers fans who were ready to press the panic button, take a step back and take a deep breath. Embiid reportedly was not hurt doing any particular activity and he is not experiencing pain.

Could this be an absolutely dire situation for the franchise? Yes, it absolutely can.

However, it is too early to panic.

Look, until I hear otherwise, the "Embiid's career is over" is a bigger conspiracy theory than some of the stuff Philly fans are throwing out there.

I heard he was now in a full blown wheel chair to remove any pressure from the foot and to avoid too much exaggerated contact on the other foot.

[D.o.s.]

someone say wheel chair?

[LarBrd33]

Is Bill Self lying?  Making up stuff for no reason?  OR do you think he actually knows what he's talking about here?


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/06/15/kansas-coach-bill-self-sheds-light-on-joel-embiid-setback/

On Monday, Embiid's college coach, Bill Self, addressed the media and discussed what he knows about the latest chapter in his former pupil?s story.

Benton Smith of KUSports shared some of Self's comments on Embiid.

?Basically, he?s been working out and everything, and the doctor told him, based on doing the MRIs or X-rays or whatever they do, even though it feels better, it doesn't look like it?s made the progress they would hope at this stage, so they were gonna slow him down,? Self told the media.

Self also took the time to draw a distinction between a "setback," and what Embiid has been told.

"By no means, from what [Embiid] has told us, "slow down" does not mean major setback. It means they're gonna give it a little bit more time to heal before they put him in stressful situations."

For Sixers fans who were ready to press the panic button, take a step back and take a deep breath. Embiid reportedly was not hurt doing any particular activity and he is not experiencing pain.

Could this be an absolutely dire situation for the franchise? Yes, it absolutely can.

However, it is too early to panic.

Look, until I hear otherwise, the "Embiid's career is over" is a bigger conspiracy theory than some of the stuff Philly fans are throwing out there.

I heard he was now in a full blown wheel chair to remove any pressure from the foot and to avoid too much exaggerated contact on the other foot.

From who?  Anthony Crispino?

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

I don't think Self really clarified that much. It's not a setback in terms of lost progress, but an indication still that his progress is significantly slower than expected. Seems in line with what's gone on so far, hopefully surgery isn't necessary but it is too early to call that certain for now.

I think it's a given he's not playing summer league, but hopefully it's just a blip.

I don't think this should impact the Sixers draft board, and tbh I don't really think it will. When you've won half half as many games in two years as MJ's Bulls did in one year you just pick BPA.

[LarBrd33]

I don't think Self really clarified that much. It's not a setback in terms of lost progress, but an indication still that his progress is significantly slower than expected. Seems in line with what's gone on so far, hopefully surgery isn't necessary but it is too early to call that certain for now.

I think it's a given he's not playing summer league, but hopefully it's just a blip.

I don't think this should impact the Sixers draft board, and tbh I don't really think it will. When you've won half half as many games in two years as MJ's Bulls did in one year you just pick BPA.

Embiid was expected to play summer league 22 days from now.  If he's no longer doing that, by definition it's a set back... even if it's a mild one that has no impact on his long-term future in the league.  And until someone gives me some conclusive news of this being more serious than that, I''ll continue to assume Embiid will suit up 5 months from now.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Sixers fans and LABRD33 are hilarious. Stop being in denial, this is a major problem for the Sixers. Do you know how long it is going to take for Porzingus or Russell to be good?

John Wall was the #1 overall pick, look how long it took him to be as good as he is now. So basically, you're saying that the strategy of sucking for 6 to 7 years is the way to go? How does that make any sense? Look, I wanted the Celtics to tank, but not the way the Sixers did. That's just bad karma and you create a terrible culture. Players don't develop that way. You keep talking about how amazing Noel has been, but it's like dude, his team sucks. Who cares? Demarcus Cousin is way better than him right now and the Kings suck. Do you realize how hard it is to build a contender? Your obsession with Noel makes no sense, who by the way is basically WCS. A player who brings rim protection and elite defense. Great, now find a scorer. You're a Celtics fan, you of all people should know that is the toughest shoe to fill.

Basically, the sixers have sucked for two years under Hinkie, and they will probably suck for at least two more years. And then they'll be 500 maybe, and then by year like 10, they may be contenders. So yeah, good luck with that.

In the end, we will see who is right. If the Celtics are a contender before the Sixers, LABRD33 should be banned from this board, seriously.

You tanked last year... You're like a whopping year ahead of us on the rebuilding schedule. Whoop dee do. It's not that hard to win 40 games in the East, it's very hard to get to the 55ish plateau that tends to separate contenders from also rans.

John Wall was really good 3 or so years in, the reason that his team wasn't is because it's run by idiots that have no idea how to maximize his talent.

Nerlens Noel is already good, it's not unheard of for young players to contribute in their 2nd or 3rd year. If it takes 5 years from when Hinkie gets hired I could honestly not care less. This franchise has had 1 winning season in 25 years. I don't care about the 8th seed.

How will we ever find a scorer with 5 first round picks in the next 13 months and more cap space than anybody in the NBA?!?!

Like yeah, it's really hard to build a contender, but that's true regardless of the method. The Celtics have a nice surrounding setup, but where are the star and the rim protector?

And spare me the bad karma nonsense, that's about as practical as me saying Danny Ainge hasn't invested enough in preventing voodoo curses.

Development environment? Players develop with minutes and coaching focused on development. Not watching better players play instead. The Sixers don't have bad habits. It works hard defensively, has a good shot selection(that they don't make haha) and runs the floor.

Bro, did you not read my comment? I said I WANTED THE CELTICS TO TANK. But I understood when they didn't force it the way the Sixers had. We'll see who has the last laugh. If the Celtics get Love or Aldridge this year, or trade for Cousins, will you shut up about the Sixers? Nope, you won't. Because you're stuck on being stubborn. Picking Embiid was one of the dumbest decisions in the world. It's one thing to draft a player who had a torn ACL, but they drafted a dude with a stress fracture. Something large players typically have issues coming back from. But they don't care, they wanted to tank. They could've kept Payton, but nope, let's trade for Saric and tank some more. When the Celtics are good, and the Sixers still suck, I hope not to see you on these boards, seriously.

I did read your comment... My point is this, tanking is tanking. A half-hearted attempt at it doesn't somehow erase all the stuff you wrote about the Sixers. All of those things you calimed were factors would have impacted the Celtics as well. Personally, I don't think they're a big deal at all as some of them(Karma) don't make any sense whatsoever.

And if the Sixers, who BTW could offer a way better package than the Celtics, trade for Cousins will you? Knock yourself out signing Aldridge, he'll be like 33 by the end of the contract and his main offensive weapon is the least efficient shot in basketball. I'd actually like to see Kevin Love on the Celtics, he'd be a good fit, Brad Stevens would use him well, and he's the right age for your rebuild. Plus he have the offense run through him. It'd be fun.

As far as drafting Embiid... Who exactly blew the doors off their rookie season behind him? It's not like Durant was waiting in the wings and we picked Oden. He was the most talented player in the draft, and it wasn't close. Big men have recovered from that injury before. Kevin McHale and Big Z in particular. Big men have been ravaged by it as well. Yao and Walton to name a few. Maybe he doesn't pan out, who knows? It was a risk and one I was good with the Sixers taking because if anybody can sustain a missed draft choice early on it's them.

And the Payton trade was a fleecing, they got their own first round pick to move back two spots and take a better prospect.

 I love how you're saying they have the assets to trade for Cousins.

Can the Celtics top Noel and #3? Would anybody really top that? Teams could, not sure many would. The Magic would be players, gotta think the C's, possibly the Suns, Nuggets or another Eastern team.

Vucevic, #5 and Payton might get it done.

I don't think you've heard rumors for two reasons:

A. I don't think he's available this offseason.

B. The Sixers FO is pretty good about containing info.

[LarBrd33]

Sixers fans and LABRD33 are hilarious. Stop being in denial, this is a major problem for the Sixers. Do you know how long it is going to take for Porzingus or Russell to be good?

John Wall was the #1 overall pick, look how long it took him to be as good as he is now. So basically, you're saying that the strategy of sucking for 6 to 7 years is the way to go? How does that make any sense? Look, I wanted the Celtics to tank, but not the way the Sixers did. That's just bad karma and you create a terrible culture. Players don't develop that way. You keep talking about how amazing Noel has been, but it's like dude, his team sucks. Who cares? Demarcus Cousin is way better than him right now and the Kings suck. Do you realize how hard it is to build a contender? Your obsession with Noel makes no sense, who by the way is basically WCS. A player who brings rim protection and elite defense. Great, now find a scorer. You're a Celtics fan, you of all people should know that is the toughest shoe to fill.

Basically, the sixers have sucked for two years under Hinkie, and they will probably suck for at least two more years. And then they'll be 500 maybe, and then by year like 10, they may be contenders. So yeah, good luck with that.

In the end, we will see who is right. If the Celtics are a contender before the Sixers, LABRD33 should be banned from this board, seriously.

You tanked last year... You're like a whopping year ahead of us on the rebuilding schedule. Whoop dee do. It's not that hard to win 40 games in the East, it's very hard to get to the 55ish plateau that tends to separate contenders from also rans.

John Wall was really good 3 or so years in, the reason that his team wasn't is because it's run by idiots that have no idea how to maximize his talent.

Nerlens Noel is already good, it's not unheard of for young players to contribute in their 2nd or 3rd year. If it takes 5 years from when Hinkie gets hired I could honestly not care less. This franchise has had 1 winning season in 25 years. I don't care about the 8th seed.

How will we ever find a scorer with 5 first round picks in the next 13 months and more cap space than anybody in the NBA?!?!

Like yeah, it's really hard to build a contender, but that's true regardless of the method. The Celtics have a nice surrounding setup, but where are the star and the rim protector?

And spare me the bad karma nonsense, that's about as practical as me saying Danny Ainge hasn't invested enough in preventing voodoo curses.

Development environment? Players develop with minutes and coaching focused on development. Not watching better players play instead. The Sixers don't have bad habits. It works hard defensively, has a good shot selection(that they don't make haha) and runs the floor.

Bro, did you not read my comment? I said I WANTED THE CELTICS TO TANK. But I understood when they didn't force it the way the Sixers had. We'll see who has the last laugh. If the Celtics get Love or Aldridge this year, or trade for Cousins, will you shut up about the Sixers? Nope, you won't. Because you're stuck on being stubborn. Picking Embiid was one of the dumbest decisions in the world. It's one thing to draft a player who had a torn ACL, but they drafted a dude with a stress fracture. Something large players typically have issues coming back from. But they don't care, they wanted to tank. They could've kept Payton, but nope, let's trade for Saric and tank some more. When the Celtics are good, and the Sixers still suck, I hope not to see you on these boards, seriously.

I did read your comment... My point is this, tanking is tanking. A half-hearted attempt at it doesn't somehow erase all the stuff you wrote about the Sixers. All of those things you calimed were factors would have impacted the Celtics as well. Personally, I don't think they're a big deal at all as some of them(Karma) don't make any sense whatsoever.

And if the Sixers, who BTW could offer a way better package than the Celtics, trade for Cousins will you? Knock yourself out signing Aldridge, he'll be like 33 by the end of the contract and his main offensive weapon is the least efficient shot in basketball. I'd actually like to see Kevin Love on the Celtics, he'd be a good fit, Brad Stevens would use him well, and he's the right age for your rebuild. Plus he have the offense run through him. It'd be fun.

As far as drafting Embiid... Who exactly blew the doors off their rookie season behind him? It's not like Durant was waiting in the wings and we picked Oden. He was the most talented player in the draft, and it wasn't close. Big men have recovered from that injury before. Kevin McHale and Big Z in particular. Big men have been ravaged by it as well. Yao and Walton to name a few. Maybe he doesn't pan out, who knows? It was a risk and one I was good with the Sixers taking because if anybody can sustain a missed draft choice early on it's them.

And the Payton trade was a fleecing, they got their own first round pick to move back two spots and take a better prospect.

 I love how you're saying they have the assets to trade for Cousins.

Can the Celtics top Noel and #3?

Definitely not.  The Celtics can't top Noel OR #3.

[gpap]

A 10 page thread on Joel Embiid??

Alrighty then.

[hwangjini_1]

A 10 page thread on Joel Embiid??

Alrighty then.

It's the off season for the celtics. You take what you can get.

[gpap]

A 10 page thread on Joel Embiid??

Alrighty then.

It's the off season for the celtics. You take what you can get.

I just find it funny how last year everyone on this board was going crazy for Embiid (even with the knowledge of his injuries) as if he was going to be the next Hakeem Olajuwon and now his career might already be over before it begins.

Also, this totally causes this BS tanking style that Philly has adopted to totally backfire.

[Eja117]

I don't think Self really clarified that much. It's not a setback in terms of lost progress, but an indication still that his progress is significantly slower than expected. Seems in line with what's gone on so far, hopefully surgery isn't necessary but it is too early to call that certain for now.

I think it's a given he's not playing summer league, but hopefully it's just a blip.

I don't think this should impact the Sixers draft board, and tbh I don't really think it will. When you've won half half as many games in two years as MJ's Bulls did in one year you just pick BPA.

Embiid was expected to play summer league 22 days from now.  If he's no longer doing that, by definition it's a set back... even if it's a mild one that has no impact on his long-term future in the league.  And until someone gives me some conclusive news of this being more serious than that, I''ll continue to assume Embiid will suit up 5 months from now.

Ok, but until I get conclusive news of the opposite I'll believe it when i see it.

[D.o.s.]

A 10 page thread on Joel Embiid??

Alrighty then.

It's the off season for the celtics. You take what you can get.

I just find it funny how last year everyone on this board was going crazy for Embiid (even with the knowledge of his injuries) as if he was going to be the next Hakeem Olajuwon and now his career might already be over before it begins.

Also, this totally causes this BS tanking style that Philly has adopted to totally backfire.

Golden State tanked half a season. Won a title.

San Antonio tanked half a season. Won four titles.

Oklahoma City tanked for three seasons. Got nothing because the basketball gods do not approve of stealing teams, but have the potential to make the Finals year in year out.

Cleveland tanked for three seasons through sheer incompetence. Got rewarded with a second go-around of the league's best player.

[hwangjini_1]

A 10 page thread on Joel Embiid??

Alrighty then.

It's the off season for the celtics. You take what you can get.

I just find it funny how last year everyone on this board was going crazy for Embiid (even with the knowledge of his injuries) as if he was going to be the next Hakeem Olajuwon and now his career might already be over before it begins.

Also, this totally causes this BS tanking style that Philly has adopted to totally backfire.

Golden State tanked half a season. Won a title.

San Antonio tanked half a season. Won four titles.

Oklahoma City tanked for three seasons. Got nothing because the basketball gods do not approve of stealing teams, but have the potential to make the Finals year in year out.

Cleveland tanked for three seasons through sheer incompetence. Got rewarded with a second go-around of the league's planet's best player.

[Eja117]

A 10 page thread on Joel Embiid??

Alrighty then.

It's the off season for the celtics. You take what you can get.

I just find it funny how last year everyone on this board was going crazy for Embiid (even with the knowledge of his injuries) as if he was going to be the next Hakeem Olajuwon and now his career might already be over before it begins.

Also, this totally causes this BS tanking style that Philly has adopted to totally backfire.

Golden State tanked half a season. Won a title.

San Antonio tanked half a season. Won four titles.

Oklahoma City tanked for three seasons. Got nothing because the basketball gods do not approve of stealing teams, but have the potential to make the Finals year in year out.

Cleveland tanked for three seasons through sheer incompetence. Got rewarded with a second go-around of the league's best player.

So that means since tanking worked for the Warriors 6 years after they tanked it didn't work for the 6 teams ahead of them (actually 5....The T Wolves double tanked that year with two picks ahead of Curry) so your chances of tanking successfully are 1 in 7 and it will take 6 years to come to fruition. Yeah. Get me in the playoffs please.