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Russilo's Draft Notes
« on: June 11, 2015, 06:24:15 PM »

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Few trade notes. The scouts put WC Stein in special tier as a defensive player. Heard Cousins wants him @6 so he doesn't have to play C.

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There is an obvious Arn Tellum - Hezonja connection, so other teams are saying he goes #8, if he is still there.

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Picks 9/10/11 described as "Win now teams" so picks available, but if Miami keeps it probably a guy like Kaminksy. Ready to play

Interesting. So our best bets, which isn't a surprise, to trade is up is with either Charlotte, Miami, or Indiana. Also safe to say that the top 8 picks, in whatever order, should be - Towns, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay, Porinzgis, WCS, Winslow, and Hezonja. I think Charlotte is going to take Booker, based on some reports, which would leave Miami as a prime target to move up for either Johnson or Turner. 

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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2015, 06:38:20 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2015, 06:57:24 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.

I think a good trade for both is for us to trade Suillinger and #16 (Heat take Grant or Dekker) for #10 (we take Johnson or Turner).
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2015, 07:13:07 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.
I agree which is why he is a darkhorse. Wonder if Riley would take Turner, Sully and KO for 10. Those guys are better than Kaminsky and Turner is a throw in to help bench as well.

Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside
Cole, Turner, Ennis, Sully, KO, Anderson


Nah just wishful thinking they don't want are guys... :-(

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2015, 07:14:19 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.
I agree which is why he is a darkhorse. Wonder if Riley would take Turner, Sully and KO for 10. Those guys are better than Kaminsky and Turner is a throw in to help bench as well.

Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside
Cole, Turner, Ennis, Sully, KO, Anderson


Nah just wishful thinking they don't want are guys... :-(

I added this above…

I think a good trade for both is for us to trade Suillinger and #16 (Heat take Grant or Dekker) for #10 (we take Johnson or Turner).

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2015, 07:52:13 PM »

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That is pricey to give up Sully to move up 6 spots. I'd do it for SJ. I was hoping keep the pick though some how. Which is why I said Turner, Sully and KO. Would love SJ and Portis.

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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2015, 08:06:43 PM »

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That is pricey to give up Sully to move up 6 spots. I'd do it for SJ. I was hoping keep the pick though some how. Which is why I said Turner, Sully and KO. Would love SJ and Portis.

It is, unless we can get then to go for Sullinger, Turner, #28, and perhaps some future 2nd rd picks for #10 and Ennis (for salary filler).

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2015, 08:19:54 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.
I agree which is why he is a darkhorse. Wonder if Riley would take Turner, Sully and KO for 10. Those guys are better than Kaminsky and Turner is a throw in to help bench as well.

Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside
Cole, Turner, Ennis, Sully, KO, Anderson


Nah just wishful thinking they don't want are guys... :-(

I added this above…

I think a good trade for both is for us to trade Suillinger and #16 (Heat take Grant or Dekker) for #10 (we take Johnson or Turner).

Two guys im least excited about.  Seems like you like players that have avg hops or something. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2015, 08:25:44 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.
I agree which is why he is a darkhorse. Wonder if Riley would take Turner, Sully and KO for 10. Those guys are better than Kaminsky and Turner is a throw in to help bench as well.

Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside
Cole, Turner, Ennis, Sully, KO, Anderson


Nah just wishful thinking they don't want are guys... :-(

I added this above…

I think a good trade for both is for us to trade Suillinger and #16 (Heat take Grant or Dekker) for #10 (we take Johnson or Turner).

Two guys im least excited about.  Seems like you like players that have avg hops or something.

Seems like you have a lot to learn about basketball and think we should fill our roster with 2nd rd talent because they jump high.

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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2015, 08:29:38 PM »

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That is pricey to give up Sully to move up 6 spots. I'd do it for SJ. I was hoping keep the pick though some how. Which is why I said Turner, Sully and KO. Would love SJ and Portis.

It is, unless we can get then to go for Sullinger, Turner, #28, and perhaps some future 2nd rd picks for #10 and Ennis (for salary filler).
That works for me.

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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2015, 08:40:18 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.
I agree which is why he is a darkhorse. Wonder if Riley would take Turner, Sully and KO for 10. Those guys are better than Kaminsky and Turner is a throw in to help bench as well.

Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside
Cole, Turner, Ennis, Sully, KO, Anderson


Nah just wishful thinking they don't want are guys... :-(

I added this above…

I think a good trade for both is for us to trade Suillinger and #16 (Heat take Grant or Dekker) for #10 (we take Johnson or Turner).

Two guys im least excited about.  Seems like you like players that have avg hops or something.

Seems like you have a lot to learn about basketball and think we should fill our roster with 2nd rd talent because they jump high.

naw.  I know what this lineup needs to balance itself out.   Not keep adding not so over the rim type players.

you don't get that everyone else on the team has to work extra hard on the defensive end to prevent their man from having open season under the rim.   Maybe if they don't have to work extra hard, our offense would perform better

 Defense wins championships

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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2015, 08:45:22 PM »

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And if your going to like a guy that isn't that explosive you choose Kaminsky.   

I would choose Kaminsky over Turner

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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2015, 08:46:33 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.
I agree which is why he is a darkhorse. Wonder if Riley would take Turner, Sully and KO for 10. Those guys are better than Kaminsky and Turner is a throw in to help bench as well.

Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside
Cole, Turner, Ennis, Sully, KO, Anderson


Nah just wishful thinking they don't want are guys... :-(

I added this above…

I think a good trade for both is for us to trade Suillinger and #16 (Heat take Grant or Dekker) for #10 (we take Johnson or Turner).

Two guys im least excited about.  Seems like you like players that have avg hops or something.

Seems like you have a lot to learn about basketball and think we should fill our roster with 2nd rd talent because they jump high.

naw.  I know what this lineup needs to balance itself out.   Not keep adding not so over the rim type players.

you don't get that everyone else on the team has to work extra hard on the defensive end to prevent their man from having open season under the rim.   Maybe if they don't have to work extra hard, our offense would perform better

 Defense wins championships

So you don't want Stanley Johnson or Myles Turner because they're weak defenders? Are we talking about the same players? Hence as to  why I put their full names.

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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2015, 09:30:22 PM »

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Kaminsky to Heat would be interesting. Gives an interesting rotation of Bosh, Whiteside and Kaminsky. SJ would be better though as Deng is kind of old. Booker is a dark horse there as a better backup to Wade is needed.

The Heat usually draft older players, so even if Booker were there, I'd doubt they go that route.
I agree which is why he is a darkhorse. Wonder if Riley would take Turner, Sully and KO for 10. Those guys are better than Kaminsky and Turner is a throw in to help bench as well.

Dragic, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Whiteside
Cole, Turner, Ennis, Sully, KO, Anderson


Nah just wishful thinking they don't want are guys... :-(

I added this above…

I think a good trade for both is for us to trade Suillinger and #16 (Heat take Grant or Dekker) for #10 (we take Johnson or Turner).

Two guys im least excited about.  Seems like you like players that have avg hops or something.

Seems like you have a lot to learn about basketball and think we should fill our roster with 2nd rd talent because they jump high.

naw.  I know what this lineup needs to balance itself out.   Not keep adding not so over the rim type players.

you don't get that everyone else on the team has to work extra hard on the defensive end to prevent their man from having open season under the rim.   Maybe if they don't have to work extra hard, our offense would perform better

 Defense wins championships

So you don't want Stanley Johnson or Myles Turner because they're weak defenders? Are we talking about the same players? Hence as to  why I put their full names.

you will get good effort from Johnson.  But lets not kid ourselves if you think he can handle top sfs like Leonard, Lebron, Durant etc.   Johnson lacks the size, explosiveness, good but not great length to slow these guys down.   Plus is only considered an average shooter.  Had issues finishing around the basket in college, so how do you think he is going to deal with this issue in the nba?

Turner with the length that he has is poor at finishing around the basket .  He has some kind of foot , hip issue will prevent him from being a good perimeter , PNR defender


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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2015, 09:39:41 PM »

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I really don't see DMC as a power forward, and he needs some spacing around him not a defensive specialist like WCS.
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