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Charlotte pick
« on: June 06, 2015, 04:22:48 PM »

Offline BigDogPitbull

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I just read somewhere that the hornets would be willing to trade # 9 to anyone willing to take Stephenson.  Was Stephenson just a bad fit in Charlotte or is he really that bad?    Is it worth giving up Bradley for a rim protector and a headcase?  This trade makes us a better matchup against bigger teams.  I would try to draft WCS with the #9 pick.

Incoming

Lance Stephenson
Charlotte's #9

Outgoing

Avery Bradley
Jared Sullinger
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2015, 04:36:15 PM »

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Do you have a link?

I have to imagine there is more to this, but if true, how could Danny not get in on this? I know you are including Bradley and Sullinger in your deal, but if Charlotte really is willing to deal their #9 to get rid of Stephenson, then there really is no reason to.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2015, 04:38:08 PM »

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If you look on the hoopshype mock draft it says it where Charlotte picks.  We would have to give up something more then just #16.  I doubt they would just take Wallace's expiring  deal.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2015, 04:40:10 PM »

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I don't think moving up 7 spots in the draft is worth giving up Sullinger, Bradley, and taking on Stephenson (who looks like an awful fit in Stevens' offense).

This is what it says:
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The Hornets are dangling this pick for anyone that will take Lance Stephenson's dead weight contract off of their hands. A team such as Orlando with some cap space could decide to take its chances with Lance, who has the talent to justify the contract. It's just a matter of inspiring him to stay focused.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2015, 04:45:10 PM »

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Stephenson has negative trade value, and Sullinger and Bradley individually are valuable enough that they shouldn't be traded except for a 1st round pick.

So basically, the Celts are giving up way too much in your proposed trade.

I think Bradley + #16 straight up for Stephenson + #9 makes a lot more sense.  Even that might be too much to give up.


Stephenson is basically a more talented Evan Turner with a lower floor but a higher ceiling.  I think he could work in Brad's system, but he and Turner don't make sense on the same team, so they'd have to dump ET.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2015, 04:47:00 PM »

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Quote from: Eddie20 on June 06, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
I don't think moving up 7 spots in the draft is worth giving up Sullinger, Bradley, and taking on Stephenson (who looks like an awful fit in Stevens' offense).

This is what it says:
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The Hornets are dangling this pick for anyone that will take Lance Stephenson's dead weight contract off of their hands. A team such as Orlando with some cap space could decide to take its chances with Lance, who has the talent to justify the contract. It's just a matter of inspiring him to stay focused.

I would gladly take Stephenson and #7. CBS could revive Stephenson, and we could get WCS out of it. In addition, with the cap set to go up big time in the next few years, we can deal with Stephenson's contract.

No need for us to give up that much though, #16 and some salary filler would do it.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2015, 04:50:33 PM »

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Quote from: hpantazo on June 06, 2015, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: Eddie20 on June 06, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
I don't think moving up 7 spots in the draft is worth giving up Sullinger, Bradley, and taking on Stephenson (who looks like an awful fit in Stevens' offense).

This is what it says:
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The Hornets are dangling this pick for anyone that will take Lance Stephenson's dead weight contract off of their hands. A team such as Orlando with some cap space could decide to take its chances with Lance, who has the talent to justify the contract. It's just a matter of inspiring him to stay focused.

I would gladly take Stephenson and #7. CBS could revive Stephenson, and we could get WCS out of it. In addition, with the cap set to go up big time in the next few years, we can deal with Stephenson's contract.

No need for us to give up that much though, #16 and some salary filler would do it.

They have #9. It might not sound like much, but that's huge. #7 could net us one of Winslow, Porzingis, or WCS.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2015, 04:50:51 PM »

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Yep, #16 + Wallace is a fair deal.
Why should we give them an asset in AB when they are desperate to get rid of Lance?
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2015, 04:51:16 PM »

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It's an easy way to move up and make the team better.  If Lance could revive his career here just giving up the #16 and filler it could be a franchise changing trade.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2015, 05:12:43 PM »

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Quote from: Eddie20 on June 06, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
I don't think moving up 7 spots in the draft is worth giving up Sullinger, Bradley, and taking on Stephenson (who looks like an awful fit in Stevens' offense).

This is what it says:
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The Hornets are dangling this pick for anyone that will take Lance Stephenson's dead weight contract off of their hands. A team such as Orlando with some cap space could decide to take its chances with Lance, who has the talent to justify the contract. It's just a matter of inspiring him to stay focused.

If this "quote" is true i'd gladly take #9 and Lance for #28.

If he cna't get along with CBS just "Josh Smith" him.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2015, 05:17:17 PM »

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Quote from: LGC88 on June 06, 2015, 04:50:51 PM
Yep, #16 + Wallace is a fair deal.
Why should we give them an asset in AB when they are desperate to get rid of Lance?
Why would Charlotte make that deal?  Stephenson's contract is better than Wallace's. 
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2015, 05:20:16 PM »

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Quote from: tazzmaniac on June 06, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: LGC88 on June 06, 2015, 04:50:51 PM
Yep, #16 + Wallace is a fair deal.
Why should we give them an asset in AB when they are desperate to get rid of Lance?
Why would Charlotte make that deal?  Stephenson's contract is better than Wallace's.

Wallace is now expiring. Stephenson has 2 years left.
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2015, 05:24:20 PM »

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Quote from: tazzmaniac on June 06, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: LGC88 on June 06, 2015, 04:50:51 PM
Yep, #16 + Wallace is a fair deal.
Why should we give them an asset in AB when they are desperate to get rid of Lance?
Why would Charlotte make that deal?  Stephenson's contract is better than Wallace's.
Stephenson has 2 years left on his deal. Wallace is an expiring. I don't think that gets it done but Stephenson's stock isn't exactly at an all time high when Charlotte is trying to dump him to get him off the team.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2015, 05:32:27 PM »

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Quote from: PAOBoston on June 06, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: tazzmaniac on June 06, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: LGC88 on June 06, 2015, 04:50:51 PM
Yep, #16 + Wallace is a fair deal.
Why should we give them an asset in AB when they are desperate to get rid of Lance?
Why would Charlotte make that deal?  Stephenson's contract is better than Wallace's.
Stephenson has 2 years left on his deal. Wallace is an expiring. I don't think that gets it done but Stephenson's stock isn't exactly at an all time high when Charlotte is trying to dump him to get him off the team.
Stephenson's 2nd year is a team option so that makes it cheaper and more valuable.   
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Re: Charlotte pick
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2015, 05:40:42 PM »

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Quote from: tazzmaniac on June 06, 2015, 05:32:27 PM
Quote from: PAOBoston on June 06, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: tazzmaniac on June 06, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: LGC88 on June 06, 2015, 04:50:51 PM
Yep, #16 + Wallace is a fair deal.
Why should we give them an asset in AB when they are desperate to get rid of Lance?
Why would Charlotte make that deal?  Stephenson's contract is better than Wallace's.
Stephenson has 2 years left on his deal. Wallace is an expiring. I don't think that gets it done but Stephenson's stock isn't exactly at an all time high when Charlotte is trying to dump him to get him off the team.
Stephenson's 2nd year is a team option so that makes it cheaper and more valuable.   

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm

The HH mock doesn't make any sense.  You don't attach a high first to a $9MM one year contract to get rid of it. CHA should draft the best shooter available and put up with Lance for a year at worst.
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