Charlotte pick

[Ilikesports17]

If we give up AB I would rather keep 16.

AB for Lance and 9?

I think AB has 10-14 value and Lance's negative value could even us out here.

[alewilliam789]

You guys are clearly valuing Bradley to high. I'd give up Bradley, Young, and 16  for Stephenson, 9, and a future 2nd rounder.

Stephenson is a very good fit for a player like Marcus Smart because he can create off the dribble which is something Smart is developing. Stephenson would be playing the same role as Evan Turner, but is a better/more athletic scorer and is a much better defender considering at his best in Indiana he averaged 4.8 DWS. Consider this, he had a terrible season last season and he still only put up 1 less PPG than Evan Turner. He's also a better 3 point shooter than Evan Turner even though this last year he deteriorated. Let's face it Charlotte's offense is just not good and the stats clearly reflect that. It's isolation basketball and then jack up 3s. I watch them play all the time with league pass. Stephenson is a capable spot shooter, but you need to put him in a position to take the right shots which is obviously not what Charlotte did. You get Stephenson in a Avery Bradley/Evan Turner role and he will thrive. He has shown that he can get to the basket and finish at a good % and that is something we need badly. At worst I see him average 11 PPG, 6 RPG, and 3 APG. At worst. The upside definitely outweighs the downside and at the very very worst we get a very good defender.

Either way we have to look at the facts. Brad Stevens has turned players like Evan Turner, Tyler Zeller, and even Jae Crowder into productive role players. With a very talented all around player like Stephenson, Stevens will be ecstatic. We would also add Stanley Johnson making us probably the best defensive 1,2, and 3 combos in the East let alone the NBA.

Sign Robin Lopez to a 2 year 6 mil contract

PG: Marcus Smart
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Stanley Johnson
PF: Jared Sullinger
C: Robin Lopez

[KG Living Legend]

here's my offer to Charlotte Avery Bradley Jared Sullinger and the number 28 pic and we keep 16. That's as much as I'll give.

[Celts Fan 508]

You guys are clearly valuing Bradley to high. I'd give up Bradley, Young, and 16  for Stephenson, 9, and a future 2nd rounder.

Stephenson is a very good fit for a player like Marcus Smart because he can create off the dribble which is something Smart is developing. Stephenson would be playing the same role as Evan Turner, but is a better/more athletic scorer and is a much better defender considering at his best in Indiana he averaged 4.8 DWS. Consider this, he had a terrible season last season and he still only put up 1 less PPG than Evan Turner. He's also a better 3 point shooter than Evan Turner even though this last year he deteriorated. Let's face it Charlotte's offense is just not good and the stats clearly reflect that. It's isolation basketball and then jack up 3s. I watch them play all the time with league pass. Stephenson is a capable spot shooter, but you need to put him in a position to take the right shots which is obviously not what Charlotte did. You get Stephenson in a Avery Bradley/Evan Turner role and he will thrive. He has shown that he can get to the basket and finish at a good % and that is something we need badly. At worst I see him average 11 PPG, 6 RPG, and 3 APG. At worst. The upside definitely outweighs the downside and at the very very worst we get a very good defender.

Either way we have to look at the facts. Brad Stevens has turned players like Evan Turner, Tyler Zeller, and even Jae Crowder into productive role players. With a very talented all around player like Stephenson, Stevens will be ecstatic. We would also add Stanley Johnson making us probably the best defensive 1,2, and 3 combos in the East let alone the NBA.

Sign Robin Lopez to a 2 year 6 mil contract

PG: Marcus Smart
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Stanley Johnson
PF: Jared Sullinger
C: Robin Lopez

Who will be holding Robin's family hostage while he signs that contract?

[Celts Fan 508]

My offer would have to be broken into 2 separate trades to work for the NBA rules.

Rondo exception ($9 million) and 28 for Lance
KO and Turner for 9

Charlotte gains salary relief, gets a $9 million trade exception to add a shooter, gets a couple of solid players who can contribute.

Boston gets Lance and can improve their front court and small forward position with 9, 16, and 33. Sign Danny Green, resign Crowder and we will win the Atlantic.

Smart / IT
Green / AB / Pick 33
Lance / Crowder / Pick 33
Sully / Portis
Myles Turner / Zeller

[jpotter33]

I've been preaching this deal for quite some time. I'd do Bradley and Turner for Stephenson and 9 easily. Hell, I'd probably throw in one of 16 or 28 if they asked for it, too. I truly believe Stevens can help resurrect Lance's potential, who has a higher ceiling than Bradley or Turner, and nabbing pick 9 is just the cherry on top. 

[gpap]

This is not a bad idea at all.

Acquiring Stephenson and the rights to either Stanley Johnson or Myles Turner for Bradley, Sully and the 16th pick I think is a very fair trade for both teams.

I'd also throw in Evan Turner just to get rid of him.

[gpap]

I've been preaching this deal for quite some time. I'd do Bradley and Turner for Stephenson and 9 easily. Hell, I'd probably throw in one of 16 or 28 if they asked for it, too. I truly believe Stevens can help resurrect Lance's potential, who has a higher ceiling than Bradley or Turner, and nabbing pick 9 is just the cherry on top.

Just reading your post. Agree 100 percent.

[gpap]

You guys are clearly valuing Bradley to high. I'd give up Bradley, Young, and 16  for Stephenson, 9, and a future 2nd rounder.

Stephenson is a very good fit for a player like Marcus Smart because he can create off the dribble which is something Smart is developing. Stephenson would be playing the same role as Evan Turner, but is a better/more athletic scorer and is a much better defender considering at his best in Indiana he averaged 4.8 DWS. Consider this, he had a terrible season last season and he still only put up 1 less PPG than Evan Turner. He's also a better 3 point shooter than Evan Turner even though this last year he deteriorated. Let's face it Charlotte's offense is just not good and the stats clearly reflect that. It's isolation basketball and then jack up 3s. I watch them play all the time with league pass. Stephenson is a capable spot shooter, but you need to put him in a position to take the right shots which is obviously not what Charlotte did. You get Stephenson in a Avery Bradley/Evan Turner role and he will thrive. He has shown that he can get to the basket and finish at a good % and that is something we need badly. At worst I see him average 11 PPG, 6 RPG, and 3 APG. At worst. The upside definitely outweighs the downside and at the very very worst we get a very good defender.

Either way we have to look at the facts. Brad Stevens has turned players like Evan Turner, Tyler Zeller, and even Jae Crowder into productive role players. With a very talented all around player like Stephenson, Stevens will be ecstatic. We would also add Stanley Johnson making us probably the best defensive 1,2, and 3 combos in the East let alone the NBA.

Sign Robin Lopez to a 2 year 6 mil contract

PG: Marcus Smart
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Stanley Johnson
PF: Jared Sullinger
C: Robin Lopez

You'd have to offer Lopez a lot more than that but he'd be a great target at center. Love his intensity.

[Chief Macho]

hell no.  stephenson is a cancer.


 bradley isn't getting traded.  you all need to accept it.

[gpap]

hell no.  stephenson is a cancer.


 bradley isn't getting traded.  you all need to accept it.

Says who? JR Smith is a cancer yet look how well he's doing with Cleveland.

Also, you have no clue whether or not Bradley will be traded.

Plus, I think Stephenson would give our team some much needed attitude and stand up to the Wades and JR Smiths of the league when they start stuff with us.

[BDeCosta26]

You guys are clearly valuing Bradley to high. I'd give up Bradley, Young, and 16  for Stephenson, 9, and a future 2nd rounder.

Stephenson is a very good fit for a player like Marcus Smart because he can create off the dribble which is something Smart is developing. Stephenson would be playing the same role as Evan Turner, but is a better/more athletic scorer and is a much better defender considering at his best in Indiana he averaged 4.8 DWS. Consider this, he had a terrible season last season and he still only put up 1 less PPG than Evan Turner. He's also a better 3 point shooter than Evan Turner even though this last year he deteriorated. Let's face it Charlotte's offense is just not good and the stats clearly reflect that. It's isolation basketball and then jack up 3s. I watch them play all the time with league pass. Stephenson is a capable spot shooter, but you need to put him in a position to take the right shots which is obviously not what Charlotte did. You get Stephenson in a Avery Bradley/Evan Turner role and he will thrive. He has shown that he can get to the basket and finish at a good % and that is something we need badly. At worst I see him average 11 PPG, 6 RPG, and 3 APG. At worst. The upside definitely outweighs the downside and at the very very worst we get a very good defender.

Either way we have to look at the facts. Brad Stevens has turned players like Evan Turner, Tyler Zeller, and even Jae Crowder into productive role players. With a very talented all around player like Stephenson, Stevens will be ecstatic. We would also add Stanley Johnson making us probably the best defensive 1,2, and 3 combos in the East let alone the NBA.

Sign Robin Lopez to a 2 year 6 mil contract

PG: Marcus Smart
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Stanley Johnson
PF: Jared Sullinger
C: Robin Lopez

Dude ,your out of your tree. Charlotte has been looking to get rid of Stephenson, and even of he has a higher ceiling (debatable), clearly right now Bradley is the better player.

Danny Ainge (or any other competent GM for that matter) would ever give away that much for a 9th pick and a guy no one wants anyway. AB and Young are two of the better trade chips we have on our current roster. And the 16th pick is only 7 spots down from 9. They can probably get the Pistons pick at 8 just be giving up Olynyk, 16 and a future 2nd. Why would we trade our only two SG's for one SG who was so bad last year that his team was looking to give him away mid-season, and a draft pick we still have to use on a wing or a big? That's just crazy. I'd rather trade Bradley to the Jazz for Hood and 12. We're not overvaluing Bradley, your undervaluing him. A lot of teams would love to have AB, who is an elite defender with a capable jump shot on a team-friendly long term contract and is just 24 years old. Id bet at least two or three, if not more, of this years top 10 draftees go on to have a worse career than Bradley.

Robin Lopez for 3 mil a year ?!?!?!?! Hahahaha. That's Evan Turner money. Dude is getting double digits per year I'm guessing. Probably something like 4 years- 42 Million.

[BDeCosta26]

This is not a bad idea at all.

Acquiring Stephenson and the rights to either Stanley Johnson or Myles Turner for Bradley, Sully and the 16th pick I think is a very fair trade for both teams.

I'd also throw in Evan Turner just to get rid of him.

No it's not. AB, Sullinger and even Turner have positive trade value. You can get a 1st rounder just by offering up Bradley and Sully to the highest bidders. Stephenson has negative trade value. Charlotte would attach him to the number 9 pick because it's the only way they can get rid of him and still get something in return. Bradley and 28 for 9 and Stephenson is fair. 16 is pushing it, but I'd prob give it to them if I was the one seeking out a deal.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

hell no.  stephenson is a cancer.


 bradley isn't getting traded.  you all need to accept it.

He wasn't a cancer in Indiana, though. Stephenson has talent more than any of our guards in the lineup right now. He has shown he can be multi faceted in the offense, and he can defend when engaged. He had a bad year, which makes his stock very low and very tradeable.

I will do that trade straight up. Heck, I'd add our late second rounder to it as well. That put us in position to draft Myles Turner too. This should be a no brainer.

[alewilliam789]

You guys are clearly valuing Bradley to high. I'd give up Bradley, Young, and 16  for Stephenson, 9, and a future 2nd rounder.

Stephenson is a very good fit for a player like Marcus Smart because he can create off the dribble which is something Smart is developing. Stephenson would be playing the same role as Evan Turner, but is a better/more athletic scorer and is a much better defender considering at his best in Indiana he averaged 4.8 DWS. Consider this, he had a terrible season last season and he still only put up 1 less PPG than Evan Turner. He's also a better 3 point shooter than Evan Turner even though this last year he deteriorated. Let's face it Charlotte's offense is just not good and the stats clearly reflect that. It's isolation basketball and then jack up 3s. I watch them play all the time with league pass. Stephenson is a capable spot shooter, but you need to put him in a position to take the right shots which is obviously not what Charlotte did. You get Stephenson in a Avery Bradley/Evan Turner role and he will thrive. He has shown that he can get to the basket and finish at a good % and that is something we need badly. At worst I see him average 11 PPG, 6 RPG, and 3 APG. At worst. The upside definitely outweighs the downside and at the very very worst we get a very good defender.

Either way we have to look at the facts. Brad Stevens has turned players like Evan Turner, Tyler Zeller, and even Jae Crowder into productive role players. With a very talented all around player like Stephenson, Stevens will be ecstatic. We would also add Stanley Johnson making us probably the best defensive 1,2, and 3 combos in the East let alone the NBA.

Sign Robin Lopez to a 2 year 6 mil contract

PG: Marcus Smart
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Stanley Johnson
PF: Jared Sullinger
C: Robin Lopez

Dude ,your out of your tree. Charlotte has been looking to get rid of Stephenson, and even of he has a higher ceiling (debatable), clearly right now Bradley is the better player.

Danny Ainge (or any other competent GM for that matter) would ever give away that much for a 9th pick and a guy no one wants anyway. AB and Young are two of the better trade chips we have on our current roster. And the 16th pick is only 7 spots down from 9. They can probably get the Pistons pick at 8 just be giving up Olynyk, 16 and a future 2nd. Why would we trade our only two SG's for one SG who was so bad last year that his team was looking to give him away mid-season, and a draft pick we still have to use on a wing or a big? That's just crazy. I'd rather trade Bradley to the Jazz for Hood and 12. We're not overvaluing Bradley, your undervaluing him. A lot of teams would love to have AB, who is an elite defender with a capable jump shot on a team-friendly long term contract and is just 24 years old. Id bet at least two or three, if not more, of this years top 10 draftees go on to have a worse career than Bradley.

Robin Lopez for 3 mil a year ?!?!?!?! Hahahaha. That's Evan Turner money. Dude is getting double digits per year I'm guessing. Probably something like 4 years- 42 Million.

You guys are right about the Lopez thing. I was trying to say 6 mil per year.


You think the Celtics can land 8 for Olynyk, 16, and a future 2nd?? That makes you lose all credibility right there. That's that ridiculous overvaluing again. I doubt we could even get a 1st rounder in the 20s for Olynyk straight up. Why would the Pistons willingly trade for a C that can't guard either PF or the C position, is an average 3 point shooter at 34%, and is an average athlete. You seriously can't sit here and tell me that Olynyk is anything but an average player. He has shown nothing that he will be anything more than an above average role player and has made little improvements in between this year and last. Why would they trade down 8 spots for that? I highly doubt that. Bradley's best year has been 14 PPG with no other meaningful stats. Defensively he regressed and averaged about as many DWS as Marcus Smart this year. Well he also played close to a full season, but it is very sad if an upside to his season is that he actually played this season. He cannot create for himself and hasn't shown any major improvements to become better in that front. He is average as a finisher. He's undersized and struggles to cover larger 2s. There is nothing that makes me think that Bradley is the future of our franchise at SG. To add to all that he isn't a good match alongside Marcus Smart because he can't create offense and is about an average 3 point shooter. I'm evaluating Bradley at right about what his price is.