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[Celtics2021]

Trade Brown for Giannis (for example):  Floor is making the playoffs every season.  Ceiling is winning a title.

Trade Brown for Spare Parts and Draft picks:  Floor is no playoffs for 3+ seasons.  Ceiling is to have a title contending team in 3-5 years maybe.

 I see your point, but neither is guaranteed.  It would be impossible to predict given we don't what the latter would be.

I would not want to trade Brown for spare parts really.  I would swap him for a young and upcoming star or pieces that fit better around Tatum and that is a big difference from is posted above.    We don't have a balanced roster.  Half our team is wings of varying athletic ability and skills, and a lot of them are supposed to be shooters.   I think BS talked about adding athleticism and diversity on the offensive side.   We can't just cling the shoot the threes because, some nights they don't hit.

Here is what I heard from BS, we all hear things differently:

1)   We need a front court addition
2)   We need players who can score the ball in ways others than bombing threes.
3)   We need to get more athletic across the board.

What did you all hear?

Boston won't bottom out. They could have this year, but won't going forward.  They need to get younger players and draft picks from other teams and hope they end up high picks like woth what happened in the KG/PP trade.

I concur 100%

You want high pick like what happened in KG/PP trade, then trade Tatum for one of picks 1-3

No, you trade Tatum or Brown for several picks to a team that you think will screw it up.  So Sacramento, for example.

[Goldstar88]

According to a report from ESPN?s Shams Charania, the Celtics were among several playoff teams that tried to land Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo in February.

The Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, Timberwolves, and Cavaliers all reportedly pursued Antetokounmpo.

According to Charania, the way those teams finish the playoffs will play a ?major? role in how aggressive they are in any upcoming pursuits this summer.

Charania used the words ?open for business? to describe where the Bucks are at in terms of fielding trade calls for Antetokounmpo.

[Roy H.]

According to a report from ESPN?s Shams Charania, the Celtics were among several playoff teams that tried to land Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo in February.

The Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, Timberwolves, and Cavaliers all reportedly pursued Antetokounmpo.

According to Charania, the way those teams finish the playoffs will play a ?major? role in how aggressive they are in any upcoming pursuits this summer.

Charania used the words ?open for business? to describe where the Bucks are at in terms of fielding trade calls for Antetokounmpo.

It's an odd report, in that there were no rumors at the time and because any deal involving JB would have been way better than what other teams were dangling.  Maybe it was White * Simons.

[Indocelts]

According to a report from ESPN?s Shams Charania, the Celtics were among several playoff teams that tried to land Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo in February.

The Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, Timberwolves, and Cavaliers all reportedly pursued Antetokounmpo.

According to Charania, the way those teams finish the playoffs will play a ?major? role in how aggressive they are in any upcoming pursuits this summer.

Charania used the words ?open for business? to describe where the Bucks are at in terms of fielding trade calls for Antetokounmpo.

It's an odd report, in that there were no rumors at the time and because any deal involving JB would have been way better than what other teams were dangling.  Maybe it was White * Simons.

Agreed. Brown played superbly during the regular season and carried the team very well. I really liked the way the team passed and moved the ball. I believe Giannis was still injured around that time too. Trading Brown for Giannis at the trade deadline would have meant the Cs saw tanking a better option.

[Goldstar88]

According to a report from ESPN?s Shams Charania, the Celtics were among several playoff teams that tried to land Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo in February.

The Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, Timberwolves, and Cavaliers all reportedly pursued Antetokounmpo.

According to Charania, the way those teams finish the playoffs will play a ?major? role in how aggressive they are in any upcoming pursuits this summer.

Charania used the words ?open for business? to describe where the Bucks are at in terms of fielding trade calls for Antetokounmpo.

It's an odd report, in that there were no rumors at the time and because any deal involving JB would have been way better than what other teams were dangling.  Maybe it was White * Simons.

Agreed. Brown played superbly during the regular season and carried the team very well. I really liked the way the team passed and moved the ball. I believe Giannis was still injured around that time too. Trading Brown for Giannis at the trade deadline would have meant the Cs saw tanking a better option.

Didn?t Brad make comments recently that he did not think the Cs were as good as their record. That they didn?t do well against the better teams during the regular season.

[Celtics2021]

According to a report from ESPN?s Shams Charania, the Celtics were among several playoff teams that tried to land Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo in February.

The Celtics, Lakers, Knicks, Timberwolves, and Cavaliers all reportedly pursued Antetokounmpo.

According to Charania, the way those teams finish the playoffs will play a ?major? role in how aggressive they are in any upcoming pursuits this summer.

Charania used the words ?open for business? to describe where the Bucks are at in terms of fielding trade calls for Antetokounmpo.

It's an odd report, in that there were no rumors at the time and because any deal involving JB would have been way better than what other teams were dangling.  Maybe it was White * Simons.

Agreed. Brown played superbly during the regular season and carried the team very well. I really liked the way the team passed and moved the ball. I believe Giannis was still injured around that time too. Trading Brown for Giannis at the trade deadline would have meant the Cs saw tanking a better option.

Didn?t Brad make comments recently that he did not think the Cs were as good as their record. That they didn?t do well against the better teams during the regular season.

It was not that they weren?t as good as their record, but that there was more of a gap between them and the teams likely going to the Finals.  And the specific aspect was that he thought they needed someone in addition to Brown and Pritchard (and ultimately Tatum) to create more penetration on offense.  That against those top teams, going back to the playoffs last year even against Orlando, the defense becomes a lot more physical and we could not create enough opportunities inside where we broke down their defense, and thus the outside options became that much more difficult too.  But that discussion would not necessarily point to Jaylen being traded for Giannis. 

Also, if you remember the news coming out of the Feb deadline regarding Giannis, it was that no one expected Giannis to be moved then, and teams were gauging what it would cost to trade for him during the offseason.  So that the Celtics called around the deadline does not mean that they thought a trade would happen then, regardless of who was included.

[Vermont Green]

Tatum is better than SGA was those first few seasons in OKC when the team was growing.  Boston won't bottom out. They could have this year, but won't going forward.  They need to get younger players and draft picks from other teams and hope they end up high picks like with what happened in the KG/PP trade.

I think you are proving my point.  SGA is one of the best players of this generation.  Dybantsa will probably not be as good as SGA.  Maybe he will be, and maybe he will be no better than Markelle Fultz.  But even SGA took about 4 or so seasons to be as good as Brown is right now.

So for the next 3-4 seasons, critical seasons for Tatum's window, what is the likelihood that Dybantsa is going to be better than Brown over these critical seasons?  By the 4th or 5th season, sure, maybe Dybantsa passes Brown, maybe. And maybe by season 6 or 7, Dybantsa is the MVP, like SGA.  It is also a real possibility that he is never as good as Brown.

This is why to me, it makes no sense to trade Brown for picks or prospects, while keeping Tatum.  It would be better to trade both Tatum and Brown in that case.  But if the objective is to build the best team possible to win with Tatum, for say the next 2-3 seasons anyway, then it only makes sense to trade Brown for other good players.  Or of course, just keep Jaylen Brown.