We still love you Rondo!

[SHAQATTACK]

about the same chances they bring me in to play some pg and fab melo back to be our leading scorer. End of topic

Now that's funny..TP

LOL.....

I thought so too 

[Jonny CC]

We agree to disagree on this one. 
Blake, Deandre and Barnes is not exactly the Big 3.  CP3 has not had a lot to work with.  When Austin Rivers is getting playing time, then the team can't be too good.

You making all excuses for CP3, but Rondo after ACL came to the team with a new coach and very young players. He had to adjust to them. All of you would love to have such a players as Blake, Deandre and Barnes instead of current ones. CP3 and Clippers faced Rockets without point guard and were crashed after 3-1 lead, that's insane. Where was CP3 in defence against Corey Brewer and bench-co as Josh Smith? Why you didn't mention, what CP3 also was dogging somehow and does his leadership ability exist? He had all good chances at least to face GSW and appear in conference finals but nah. To me, a point guard who can't reach the finals can't be better. So yeah, let's disagree. I get that: when player is doing well, some of you guys truly truly adores him... but later it's easier to say what you always thought what he's a walking problem and nothing but worst. You voted for Rondo to be in All-star weekend but now it's easier way to say: he played around Hall of Famers. The next headline (i'm guessing) must be: he didn't do anything, wasn't really played so it didn't mean anything... or maybe people come up with something even more entertaining

You missed the point.  You can't say Rondo is a better player because his TEAM won a championship and Chris Paul hasn't.  Based on that logic, Udonis Haslem is better than Karl Malone.  I don't think Rondo in his prime or Magic Johnson in his prime would win a championship with Blake, Deandre and a bunch of role players.  CP3 averaged 22pts, 8.8 assists and 4 rebs in the playoffs this year and it's HIS FAULT?!?! 
And the comment about voting Rondo to be an all star is not true and it's IRRELEVANT.  Rondo was an all star and he played with 3 Hall of Famers.  The point is that it's a lot easier to win a championship when your starting lineup has 3 Hall of Famers.  Again...Rondo was arguably the 4th best starter.  CP3 is the Clippers best player.  I'm not making excuses for CP3 or against Rondo.  Personally, I think CP3 is/was a better PG overall than Rondo.  Sorry if my OPINION hurts your feelings but I would bet that most NBA fans (not all Celtics fans on a Celtics blog) feel the same way. 
Time to move on.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Maybe if swinging for the fences doesn't pan out we can take Rondo on as a reclamation  aka Jordan Crawford. Flog him for yet another 1st rounder at the deadline to the...Cavs/Grizzlies/other contender?

[clover]

Maybe if swinging for the fences doesn't pan out we can take Rondo on as a reclamation  aka Jordan Crawford. Flog him for yet another 1st rounder at the deadline to the...Cavs/Grizzlies/other contender?

Ugh, no--thanks.

[slamtheking]

We agree to disagree on this one. 
Blake, Deandre and Barnes is not exactly the Big 3.  CP3 has not had a lot to work with.  When Austin Rivers is getting playing time, then the team can't be too good.

You making all excuses for CP3, but Rondo after ACL came to the team with a new coach and very young players. He had to adjust to them. All of you would love to have such a players as Blake, Deandre and Barnes instead of current ones. CP3 and Clippers faced Rockets without point guard and were crashed after 3-1 lead, that's insane. Where was CP3 in defence against Corey Brewer and bench-co as Josh Smith? Why you didn't mention, what CP3 also was dogging somehow and does his leadership ability exist? He had all good chances at least to face GSW and appear in conference finals but nah. To me, a point guard who can't reach the finals can't be better. So yeah, let's disagree. I get that: when player is doing well, some of you guys truly truly adores him... but later it's easier to say what you always thought what he's a walking problem and nothing but worst. You voted for Rondo to be in All-star weekend but now it's easier way to say: he played around Hall of Famers. The next headline (i'm guessing) must be: he didn't do anything, wasn't really played so it didn't mean anything... or maybe people come up with something even more entertaining

You missed the point.  You can't say Rondo is a better player because his TEAM won a championship and Chris Paul hasn't.  Based on that logic, Udonis Haslem is better than Karl Malone.  I don't think Rondo in his prime or Magic Johnson in his prime would win a championship with Blake, Deandre and a bunch of role players. 

Magic, despite being Laker scum, is legitimately in the discussion of one of the top 5 players ever and top PG ever.  CP3 is not.  If Magic couldn't get that crew to a Finals, no PG could.  For the record, I believe he could have gotten that far but wouldn't have won 5 titles in the 80's.  Going against the C's, Sixers and Pistons in that decade would have been difficult to win 1 or 2 with that line-up.

[Rosco917]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYHxY3V4lJQ

[Rosco917]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3feRLI9352E

[D.o.s.]

That first video is a lot of bad refereeing and a couple of turnovers.

That second video is the same footage but with some speculation and some bad music. I don't see the point in posting either of those.

[saynomore]

You missed the point.  You can't say Rondo is a better player because his TEAM won a championship and Chris Paul hasn't.  Based on that logic, Udonis Haslem is better than Karl Malone.  I don't think Rondo in his prime or Magic Johnson in his prime would win a championship with Blake, Deandre and a bunch of role players.  CP3 averaged 22pts, 8.8 assists and 4 rebs in the playoffs this year and it's HIS FAULT?!?! 
And the comment about voting Rondo to be an all star is not true and it's IRRELEVANT.  Rondo was an all star and he played with 3 Hall of Famers.  The point is that it's a lot easier to win a championship when your starting lineup has 3 Hall of Famers.  Again...Rondo was arguably the 4th best starter.  CP3 is the Clippers best player.  I'm not making excuses for CP3 or against Rondo.  Personally, I think CP3 is/was a better PG overall than Rondo.  Sorry if my OPINION hurts your feelings but I would bet that most NBA fans (not all Celtics fans on a Celtics blog) feel the same way. 
Time to move on.

My opinion is what Rondo in his prime is better than CP3 not just because one of them has a championship ring. Well, currently CP3 is without Hall of Famers, so he needs them too (unless he wants to win something). And, based on you logic, they must be at least on the same page. But when people say what he is waaaay better than Rondo hm... whatever. As long as CP3 keep appearing in final series in his dreams. Besides, i don't think what Rondo's court vision and passing abilities are worse! And that's what point guards are supposed to do: pass rather than shot. But ofc within all new pgs in the game, Rondo might lose his value (since people get used to the fact what right now pgs dropping more points than creating shots for teammates). Not to mention, what Rondo knows how to rebound a ball. CP3? Must be too lazy for it, so instead Blake was ballin hard
So yea i would prefer Rondo in his prime rather than CP3, so we have a different opinions. Also don't worry - you didn't hurt any of my feelings. I'm sort of get used to the fact what fans are changeable and amnesia most likely happens really quick: days before he was a triple double machine so i've could bet what half of you had #9 jersey, but now he's nothing but trash

[D.o.s.]

I tried to reheat my lunch on that hot take, but it only defrosted halfway.

[Hemingway]

What does that video show really? Couldn't you say the coach quit on Rondo?

[Celtics18]

I really don't understand this fuss about "disrespect".  Saying that he has a lot of baggage and isn't a team player is not the same as saying he is "garbage/team cancer". 
You made an important point when you said that people "loved him in the past while he was playing hard".  That is true.  "WHEN HE WAS PLAYING HARD".  You also said "he didn't anything wrong here".  That's debatable.  I would argue that not playing hard, bailing on the team for birthday parties, etc, is not exactly being a good team player.  Just because someone earns respect doesn't mean that their future actions can't cause them to lose it.  I HAD respect for Rondo, but that respect went out the window in his last few years in Boston and Dallas.  The bottom line is that I want no part of seeing him in Green again.  By comparison, I would LOVE to see Pierce in a C's uniform again because he was always about the TEAM and still is.

Yes, to me, it's a disrespect. Because when he played in Boston i'm sure guys you loved him, rooting for him, defended him. Not a bad word was said while he was playing for Celtics. And now, when it's a new trend hating on him, you forgot what this guy loved being here and what you were smiling when he dropped 40+points against the Heat in the PLAYOFFS or when he was healthy, basically all of you called him 'walking triple-double'. He had no problem with his teammates in Boston (well ugh Ray Allen right cause idk anymore maybe do you respect Ray now), did at least one person from his former teammates at least once strictly said what Rondo is a problem (locker room problem, whatever). And you know, no one in Dallas said so. It's just the media, mostly, and the haters. Do you have any interview from his teammates what shows opposite? Right after season, Charlie Villanueva in his blog mentioned few kind words about Rondo, even afterall this situations when season was over for Mavs. But as i said, what happened in Dallas must stay there. Cause he certainly had a problems with a coach and coach wouldn't give him a chance in the 3rd game against Rockets. So whatever, i'm not really want to say all these thing about the Mavs all over again.
He never gave up while playing for Celtics (playoffs mostly he had amazing journey). You saying what it's debatable when i've mentioned what he didn't do anything wrong in Boston. Okay, did you read interview by PP? This one:

I remember when Rondo re-signed with Boston, we had a little dinner at a restaurant and Ray didn't show up.
"I know Ray probably didn't like Rondo that much, but it wasn't a fact of not liking somebody. You don't have to like everybody you play with -- it's a matter of showing support. Rondo probably didn't like Ray either, but he came to Ray's functions to show, 'Hey, we're together in this.'

Did you read this? Huh Rondo was attented meeting. So now you actually chosen to remember some bad things (when he stayed in LA for one [dang] day while he was injured to celebrate his one bday), instead of good. It's your right. But somehow, he played in a team where was KG and PP and they all still keep in touch.

Yup...I rooted for him when he played hard and stopped rooting for him when he stopped playing hard. Opinions change.

When did he stop playing hard?

It was some time around February, 2013, right?

[Rosco917]

What does that video show really? Couldn't you say the coach quit on Rondo?

OK fine, lets let the open market decided what Rondo's present value is. Let's see how many league GM's fight to sign Rondo, and for how much.

Prediction...he gets less money than he's presently making, and a short term contract, even with the salery cap on the rise.

[Hemingway]

What does that video show really? Couldn't you say the coach quit on Rondo?

OK fine, lets let the open market decided what Rondo's present value is. Let's see how many league GM's fight to sign Rondo, and for how much.

Prediction...he gets less money than he's presently making, and a short term contract, even with the salary cap on the rise.

And this will make you happy? We all hoped that we could have fireworks last summer and bring in a star or that Rondo would make us over achieve () like IT has done- It didn't work out, but there is no need to be mad at Rondo.For all the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. he gets, he never demanded a trade, he never talked to the media about his next contract and he never said a bad word about us after the fact. Add to it we got a real talent in Crowder in the trade. So why the hate? Rondo gets more hate than Ray Allen and that's crazy.

[D.o.s.]

What does that video show really? Couldn't you say the coach quit on Rondo?

OK fine, lets let the open market decided what Rondo's present value is. Let's see how many league GM's fight to sign Rondo, and for how much.

Prediction...he gets less money than he's presently making, and a short term contract, even with the salery cap on the rise.

I would agree with both of those things. I don't think he's nearly the disaster you're making him out to be (although his last season was abysmal by any standard), but I also think that he was never really in the conversation for the best point guard in the league. He had stretches where he looked like it, but it was never a sustained thing, which is what gave rise to the (mostly myth) of Playoff Rondo.

I'd wager that the truth, as per usual, is somewhere in the middle. The biggest blow to Rondo's value right now is that his skillset is fairly niche for the modern day demands of his postion, and the point is as deep as it has ever been in NBA history, so the deck is stacked against a massive payday even if he had played well for Dallas.