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Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #555 on: June 25, 2015, 10:38:50 PM »

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Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #556 on: June 25, 2015, 10:38:51 PM »

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Wow, Larry Nance jr. in the first round.  Way to go Lakers.

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #557 on: June 25, 2015, 10:38:58 PM »

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I want Upshaw.

Me too.  Do it Danny. 
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Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #558 on: June 25, 2015, 10:39:42 PM »

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Getting so tired of the phrase "wing span". What do they DO with that wing span!?

Look up all of the best defensive players from the past 10 years or so.

I would say that you'll find around 70% - 75% of those guys have impressive wingspan.

Three examples are guys we've had ourselves - Rajon Rondo (6'1", 6'9" wingspan), Avery Bradley (6'2", 6'7" wingspan) and Marcus Smart (6'4", 6.9" wingspan). 

If you look at shorter centers from the past who became elite shot blockers (e.g. Alonzo Mouring) often those guys had an insane wingspan.  Mourning for example was 6'10" only, but he had a wingspan of around 7'6".  Same with Dwight Howard.

Combine long wingspan with an impressive vertical leap and a high motor, and the result is often a high caliber defensive player.

A guy like this, despite being only 6'2", would be able to contest jumpers at an impressive rate because of his length, quickness and leaping ability - these allow him to theoretical cover a lot of three dimensional ground very quickly.

Wingspan essentially allows a player to 'play' bigger than their height.
Yeah but all those guys could play

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #559 on: June 25, 2015, 10:39:43 PM »

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Lakers take Nance jr?  didn't see that coming

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #560 on: June 25, 2015, 10:39:44 PM »

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We need someone with tremendous upside potential at this point.

This was a wasted pick

We could have traded way the heck back to get this scrub.......probably at 28 th

I can't recall a worse draft night ....... I was at least pleased with Fab Melo the night he was picked anyway.

This seems like a bad dream
i understand your point, but it is not accurate. chicago wanted rozier at #22 i read. what is the point of trying to trade back 3-5 spots?

let's wait and see on rozier, at least until the summer. i saw this tweet about him:

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Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #561 on: June 25, 2015, 10:39:46 PM »

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Man, there's a bunch of nice players who have fallen to us at 28.  There's at least 4 guys who everyone projected to be picked before this.

And the fact that the Lakers just picked Larry Nance Jr. makes you question taking Russell at 2.

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Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #562 on: June 25, 2015, 10:39:46 PM »

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If we dont get Looney or Harrell ill scream.

Rj hunter is an absolute clown.

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #563 on: June 25, 2015, 10:39:47 PM »

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No more undersized players for their position please.  We have a team full of them.  I'd rather a stash big man here than another redundant undersized PF or tweener.

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #564 on: June 25, 2015, 10:40:07 PM »

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Its got to be Hunter since we still have KO and Sully at the 4

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #565 on: June 25, 2015, 10:40:30 PM »

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Must be some VERY advanced analytics on him. Also when you have so many picks like we do guess it doesn't matter where you draft whom.
Apparently he blew away the competition in workouts. C's brass said he was better at escaping the trap in a 2-on-1 drill, and also defending the PG bringing up the ball.

The only stat I am seeing is 41% shooting and 30% from 3 averaging 35 min a game in college.
Those are some seriously bad #s.  Literally it is a mini-Smart, just a bit smaller and faster.  Not a point guard, and not a shooter.  It just seems like a huge stretch.  We need more size with our guards, and we need guards who can shoot.  I am at a loss for how this helps us.

If you liked this guy as BPA, trade back for him, or if he is going get snagged up at 26 or 27 shouldn't we be really thinking about why we are drafting him at 16?  I like DA but this is head scratching material.  I hope I am wrong.

This 100%. I hate those shooting #s. He'll be 22 mid-season, probably not making a leap as a shooter. No risk in trading back if this is the player Ainge had to have even if just for cap space and more 2nd round picks.

But I'm excited to get excited for Looney?

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #566 on: June 25, 2015, 10:40:53 PM »

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I like the pick.
Rozier is an insane athlete with a super high ceiling on the offensive end, whilst also being a great defender.

Danny realizes he needs to swing big by skipping these role player types like Portis, Dekker etc...just sucks he couldn't get Winslow.

This guy wont help us win games next year and we'll stink...without Bass and an Evan Turner trade, we should pick top 8 next year.

Whatever helps you sleep at nite ::).  It's a horrid pick.  Period.

Who would you have taken at that position?
I like the balls it took to take this guy. Have you seen Rozier play?

He's swinging for the fences with pick#16
You may not agree with my top 8 pick in 2016 sentiment, but you don't know what you're talking about to call Terry Rozier a 'horrid pick' with #16. It's a great pick. High risk, very high reward.

Think of a point guard version of Monta Ellis (slightly smaller, but stronger and even more athletic), but who plays NBA caliber defense and plays hard on every play.

But we could have had him at #28. He's a borderline second rounder.

You want a high risk high reward player? Were probe my better off taking Upshaw at #16. At least he fills a need. Rozier is coming in on a log jam. If we do trade any of our guards, he has to be really impressive to take time away from Smart, Bradley and Thomas. If you think he can be much more special than those three, then please convince us why, because he's not getting time on the court with those three in the court, which makes this pick a total waste.
hes a combo guard with incredible hops and an enormous wingspan (like 6'8" wingspan?)
do you really think we are keeping all those guards?
is avery bradley the long term answer for us?

id say he wasnt available at 28 either.
nbadraft.net had him as the 4th best pg in the draft....
im saying its not a horrible pick as many of the impulsive reactions here are making it out to be...

http://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/positional

I'm with you on this one, Chambers. I'll guarantee that at least half of the people whining about this pick have never seen this Rozier kid play. He gets all of his own offense, plays great d, is athletic and doesn't turn the ball over. He's nothing like E'twaun Moore or Phil Pressey.

The summer isn't over. No need to panic.
i read that chicago wanted rozier at #22. so ainge took him at 16. he seems better than i thought.

this is a swing for the fences pick for sure. ha, ha...now let's see how many threads call for ainge's firing.  ;D

It's not who he picked, it's where he licked and our personell.

We have a ton of guards. For him to develop, he needs court time, you think he can get court time with Bradley, Smart and Thomas? Of course thy could still be traded, but so far, we have log jam unless it gets fixed.

And then, the #16. He's slotted in the late lottery. He could still be available at #20. Danny could easily acquire a future second or some money for the #20 moving down.

It's not the player, it's the fit and the slot he was picked in. So far, it's dumb.
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Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #567 on: June 25, 2015, 10:41:08 PM »

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Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #568 on: June 25, 2015, 10:41:34 PM »

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I can barely look.

The great part is we upgraded at coach and got the 28th pick for it. Maybe we can get a euro stash

Re: 2015 NBA Draft Thread
« Reply #569 on: June 25, 2015, 10:41:59 PM »

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Well do not be surprised if Ainge is out of a job next year. Can not believe this is happening. Promises to make sparks then does this ****. I don't think he even had a plan if he didn't make it into the top 10. He just expected it with all his middling first round picks. After not making it into the top 10 he was shell shocked and passed up on the BPA at 16 of Portis and Dekker. He traded for Thomas which contributed to us making the playoffs and missing on talent and taking away minutes from Smart. You want to know Ainge's plan? He has no ****ing plan. He's just running around hoping that something will end up on his doorstep. He's alienated all the players on his roster and made them believe that they weren't going to get traded then doesn't do it and makes no improvements to make the roster better as far as trades and draft picks. He is terrible at drafting. His son readily admits that Smart had a god awful workout with the Celtics last year, but they still took him over Randle. He openly questions Sullinger, but instead of addressing in the draft and taking Randle he just complains about it when it's all said in done. He makes Avery Bradley untouchable?? Avery Bradley?? This man should not be a GM. He brought us a championship and it's time to move on to the future.


 Good rant, TP. I hope you feel better bro. Could have replaced Sully with Portis. Rozier is an OK player but W T F we just don't need him.