Why would any top tier free agent sign for a team run by Ainge

[oldtype]

You wouldn't want to play for a GM that has a track record of trading his players into a better situation where they're more likely to succeed?

[slamtheking]

I've been thinking about this for awhile and if I'm a top tier free agent, there is no way I sign with a Danny Ainge run team assuming money is the same. 

and you'd probably be the only one mostly because you've pretty much made your dislike for everything Danny well know.

[manl_lui]

I would argue that you sign with him because he's aggressively trying to put together a championship team. And if that doesn't work out, he'll trade you to a team where you might succeed.

[Celtics4ever]

Because Ainge is a great GM who has built a champion.   He does not let sentimental thoughts to dictate his moves.

[BDeCosta26]

Wow, I don't even know what to say.

These guys are professional athletes. When your a professional athlete, being traded comes with the territory. I mean, yeah, when you sign a contract you hope to play well, meet expectations and stay on that team but just like it's your job to go out on the court and win games, it's the GM's job to make sure his franchise is in the best possible position.

Pierce and KG loved their time here. It's not just the fans, those guys talk glowingly about the franchise as a whole, namely because it has one of the best and most stable front offices in the league. You said it yourself, KG had a full no trade clause. Ainge talked to both Paul and KG before he finalized that trade. We had just lost in the 1st round to a not so impressive Knicks team and the clock had clearly run out on the KG era. Not only did Ainge get an insane return for them, but he sent them to a place where they could stay together and play a veteran role on a team that (at the time) looked like they could make a push in the East. Those guys didn't wanna spend their last few years on a rebuilding team and they were able to help our rebuild tremendously while also getting a chance to keep chasing a ring.

Most people who have played here loved it. If I'm a top tier free agent and I'm considering the C's Ainge is most certainly a plus, not a negative. He has a proven ability to build a good team around top talent, and with our current assets, I would most certainly feel good about the future. It's important to be on a team with a good GM. And good GMs will always trade anyone if they're getting more value in return .

[jpotter33]

Pierce/KG/Terry: Brooklyn
Rondo: Mavs
Green: Memphis
Wright: Phoenix

Those are the ones I can remember off-hand, and they all went to winning situations pretty much voluntarily. The only person who might perhaps think like this is Prince, but I suspect SVG had a much larger role in his dissatisfaction than Danny. I'm not sure how anyone can really be mad at Danny in what has mostly been a largely successful era.

[saltlover]

Pierce/KG/Terry: Brooklyn
Rondo: Mavs
Green: Memphis
Wright: Phoenix

Those are the ones I can remember off-hand, and they all went to winning situations pretty much voluntarily. The only person who might perhaps think like this is Prince, but I suspect SVG had a much larger role in his dissatisfaction than Danny. I'm not sure how anyone can really be mad at Danny in what has mostly been a largely successful era.

Not to mention, Prince was traded here (for 6 weeks), and the contract he was signed to was originally with Detroit, which is where he ended up.  If someone didn't like how Ainge says Prince was treated and uses that as a reason not to sign, then he was never going to sign (and probably shares the same agent as Prince).

Oh yeah, and Prince wanted off the C's, and Boston made it to the playoffs after Prince was traded, so the moral of the story is Bill Duffy isn't a great agent.

[Rosco917]

I've been thinking about this for awhile and if I'm a top tier free agent, there is no way I sign with a Danny Ainge run team assuming money is the same.  Here is why.  I would have to believe that the odds of me making the end of a 4 year contract in Boston is less than 10%.  This afterall is the guy that traded for and then away Kevin Garnett.  A guy whose tinkering was so much that Ray Allen choose to leave for half the money.  A guy that traded away Paul Pierce and who has said multiple times would have traded Larry Bird.  A guy who couldn't stand Antoine Walker's game so much that he immediately trades him away and then re-acquires him a few years a later, only to let him walk again.  A guy that wouldn't re-sign James Posey because he wanted an extra year on a mid-level contract.  Who acquires, re-signs, and then trades away Jeff Green who had a very reasonable contract.  Who consistently tried to move Rajon Rondo before finally pulling the trigger.

So I'm Marc Gasol or some other top tier free agent, why on earth would I willingly choose Boston when I know I will be constantly in trade rumors before ultimately getting traded at some point in time?  Heck Garnett even had a no trade clause and that didn't stop Ainge from trying to and ultimately trading him away.  Why would I want to put up with that headache?  I mean the money is the same and it isn't like Boston is set up to win titles for the next ten years.  There is no incentive for me to sign for Ainge and in fact Ainge would be the biggest reason to not sign in Boston if I was a free agent (and don't get me started on the crappy weather, high taxes, etc.).

So what we want to do, is hold onto aging players until they can't contribute any longer.
Ray Allen left because he and Rondo couldn't see eye to eye. In fact the worst thing Ainge ever did was announce "this is Rondo's team now" 

DA is one of the better GM's in the league.

[Moranis]

I've been thinking about this for awhile and if I'm a top tier free agent, there is no way I sign with a Danny Ainge run team assuming money is the same. 

and you'd probably be the only one mostly because you've pretty much made your dislike for everything Danny well know.

you must be thinking of someone else because that doesn't describe me at all.

[Hemingway]

I also don't know what to say to the OP. I hope you are just really young.

[Denis998]

I cant tell if this is a troll topic or what. Ainge is on of the best GM's in the league.

[slamtheking]

I've been thinking about this for awhile and if I'm a top tier free agent, there is no way I sign with a Danny Ainge run team assuming money is the same. 

and you'd probably be the only one mostly because you've pretty much made your dislike for everything Danny well know.

you must be thinking of someone else because that doesn't describe me at all.

you're pretty consistent in your dislike for the direction of this team. 

[Moranis]

I don't think this is a big deal. I am surprised it is not but I don't think it is. I struggle to think of any players who have avoided signing with a team because they have a lot of roster turnover.

I think the most important impression Ainge gives to prospective FAs is that Ainge knows how to build an NBA Championship team. He has done it before. He has proven himself. Unlike 90% of the rest of the GMs in the league. And if you come to Boston, Ainge will give you a chance to win a Championship.

That is a fair point, but don't the top tier guys have that pretty much anywhere they would sign.  And there are a lot of teams that would be in the mix this summer that have championship talent in the executive box: San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, LA, and New York.  The 4 teams left all potentially have some room or assets available to trade for said players as well. 

All the top tier guys will have multiple options and the dollars will be the same.  If I know that a team is much more inclined to trade not only role players but the face of the franchise (which Ainge has done at least twice - Rondo, Pierce - if not 3 times - Walker), I can't see how that wouldn't play a role in my decision making process.

[Celtics4ever]

I cant tell if this is a troll topic or what. Ainge is on of the best GM's in the league.

Moranis is not a troll, he has been here for along time.

That is a fair point, but don't the top tier guys have that pretty much anywhere they would sign.  And there are a lot of teams that would be in the mix this summer that have championship talent in the executive box: San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, LA, and New York.  The 4 teams left all potentially have some room or assets available to trade for said players as well. 

All the top tier guys will have multiple options and the dollars will be the same.  If I know that a team is much more inclined to trade not only role players but the face of the franchise (which Ainge has done at least twice - Rondo, Pierce - if not 3 times - Walker), I can't see how that wouldn't play a role in my decision making process.

I think it will have more to do with weather and less with Ainge.   Hopefully, we can lure one.

[slamtheking]

I don't think this is a big deal. I am surprised it is not but I don't think it is. I struggle to think of any players who have avoided signing with a team because they have a lot of roster turnover.

I think the most important impression Ainge gives to prospective FAs is that Ainge knows how to build an NBA Championship team. He has done it before. He has proven himself. Unlike 90% of the rest of the GMs in the league. And if you come to Boston, Ainge will give you a chance to win a Championship.

That is a fair point, but don't the top tier guys have that pretty much anywhere they would sign.  And there are a lot of teams that would be in the mix this summer that have championship talent in the executive box: San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, LA, and New York.  The 4 teams left all potentially have some room or assets available to trade for said players as well. 

All the top tier guys will have multiple options and the dollars will be the same.  If I know that a team is much more inclined to trade not only role players but the face of the franchise (which Ainge has done at least twice - Rondo, Pierce - if not 3 times - Walker), I can't see how that wouldn't play a role in my decision making process.

why?  any player coming here isn't the face of the franchise.

I would think the C's would interest any player that wants to go to a franchise where the front office has shown they will put in the effort to put together a competitive team.  if Top-FA comes here and ends up traded before their contract is up it's most likely because they didn't live up to expectations and/or the C's would be more competitive without them.

for example, say LMA considers coming here. do you really think he's worried that Danny will trade him and/or not try to make other moves to improve the team?  pretty far fetched theory considering Danny hasn't really done that.  the PP/KG steal was a heist for the C's.  Ray was on the trading block because his skills were in sharp decline. 

Rondo and Green weren't on their level as players (neither was Toine) but even Rondo-lovers such as myself can't look at the end results and complain about that trade.

Also, in every one of those cases, Danny sent them to a winning situation (or at least a situation where they were thought to be in a winning situation regardless of how the Nets or Dallas actually played)

how could LMA look at that and figure he's going to have one foot out the door when he signs a deal?