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Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #90 on: April 30, 2015, 07:31:52 PM »

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No one is yelling at me or calling me dumb. Where are the real CB posters...? ???


Not gonna yell or call you dumb, but getting Cousins and Butler this off-season is more than a pipe dream. 

It's a "riding a dragonicorn (that's a unicorn dragon hybrid) through a field of sunflowers playing electric guitars while Celine Dion signs the Titanic theme with words changed so it's all about how awesome you are" dream.

That might just be the best yearbook quote of all time, lol. ;D

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2015, 07:44:12 PM »

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Not much of a surprise regarding danny comments about needing another scorer, rebounder and shot blocker.   Sully, KO, Zeller, Turner are all walking on thin ice and could be traded or replaced by a better talent.  Ideally all of Dannys needs could be solved by getting a center like an Aldrige or Gasol.  Realistically Danny will have to  try to upgrade little by little until he gets a good chance to acquire the type of talents he wants (2016 FA). Also there there is still a chance guys like Sully, KO, smart, young become much better players

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.“You could see the difference in our team when we acquired Isaiah Thomas, a dynamic scorer,” Ainge, Boston’s president of basketball operations, said on 98.5 the Sports Hub's Toucher & Rich show. “We need another dynamic scorer, preferably at the three (small forward), four (power forward) or five (center) position.”

Ainge went on to add that there’s also a need for better rebounders and shot-blockers, too.

“I like each one of the players on our roster,” Ainge said. “But we just need to upgrade our overall talent.”

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/danny-ainge-says-boston-celtics-need-another-dynamic-scorer

Boy I hope so.

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2015, 07:58:46 PM »

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It starts with Monroe, that's the guy we need to get.

Monroe would help for scoring and rebounding. Not much for shot blocking. Not really sure also If I want to throw 16-17 million a season for him

If he can give you 16/10/3 on around 50% shooting on a nightly basis, then I'm all for it.

I believe his size (At 6'11" / 250 lbs with a 7'5" wingspan) and low post game could completely transform this team's offense.
 

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #93 on: April 30, 2015, 08:03:47 PM »

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In other words, Ainge is pretty satisfied with the current guard rotation and sees the frontcourt as the priority for upgrades.
He was specifically asked if they will target the front court and he said they will be looking for every position. Take this with a grain of salt because Ainge isn't known for being honest, but if they find a dynamic guard who can handle the ball and score, I wouldn't be shocked if they went after him.

Yeah, if draft, free agent and trade history are anything to go off Danny seems to always go after the best talent available, regardless of position, and then he finds a way to make them fit.

I don't expect his approach moving forward to be any different.   

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #94 on: April 30, 2015, 08:22:45 PM »

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Sully, KO, Zeller, Turner are all walking on thin ice and could be traded or replaced by a better talent.
  Sully is the only one on thin ice.   They all have flaws that could be upgraded though.   

Disagree, those 3 are in the same boat as Sully, though wouldn't call it on thin ice.

Smart is the only guy I'd say should feel somewhat comfortable.
Philly:

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David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #95 on: April 30, 2015, 08:32:15 PM »

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Danny better take Tyler Harvey, then.

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #96 on: April 30, 2015, 08:43:13 PM »

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It starts with Monroe, that's the guy we need to get.

Monroe would help for scoring and rebounding. Not much for shot blocking. Not really sure also If I want to throw 16-17 million a season for him

If he can give you 16/10/3 on around 50% shooting on a nightly basis, then I'm all for it.

I believe his size (At 6'11" / 250 lbs with a 7'5" wingspan) and low post game could completely transform this team's offense.

In that spirit, and even though I like Monroe, I'd rather make a trade for Vonleh.

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« Reply #97 on: April 30, 2015, 09:05:34 PM »

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Good luck finding anyone who fits the description that wants to come to Boston willingly. Need to Tank hard for someone like this who would willingly come to a mid market franchise.

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #98 on: April 30, 2015, 09:10:08 PM »

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It starts with Monroe, that's the guy we need to get.

Monroe would help for scoring and rebounding. Not much for shot blocking. Not really sure also If I want to throw 16-17 million a season for him

If he can give you 16/10/3 on around 50% shooting on a nightly basis, then I'm all for it.

I believe his size (At 6'11" / 250 lbs with a 7'5" wingspan) and low post game could completely transform this team's offense.

In that spirit, and even though I like Monroe, I'd rather make a trade for Vonleh.

Vonleh???

I'd rather have Monroe as well.

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #99 on: April 30, 2015, 09:13:25 PM »

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It starts with Monroe, that's the guy we need to get.

Monroe would help for scoring and rebounding. Not much for shot blocking. Not really sure also If I want to throw 16-17 million a season for him

You've got to spend money to acquire talent, for which we are currently devoid of.

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #100 on: April 30, 2015, 09:13:46 PM »

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It starts with Monroe, that's the guy we need to get.

Monroe would help for scoring and rebounding. Not much for shot blocking. Not really sure also If I want to throw 16-17 million a season for him

If he can give you 16/10/3 on around 50% shooting on a nightly basis, then I'm all for it.

I believe his size (At 6'11" / 250 lbs with a 7'5" wingspan) and low post game could completely transform this team's offense.

In that spirit, and even though I like Monroe, I'd rather make a trade for Vonleh.

I do like Vonleh a lot as a prospect, always did.  While his current ability is minimal, I think his potential is absolutely through the roof.

That said, I'm starting to get weary of all the young "nobody now with potential" guys we keep acquiring.  I think it's always nice to have 2 or 3 of those kind of guys, but right now it feels like we have about 8 of them.

I'd rather pick up a legit starter and borderline-star like Monroe rather than add another such player, but if we could sign Monroe and trade for Vonleh then I'd definitely be up for that.

Wonder if the Hornets would trade Vonleh for Turner and a late first?

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #101 on: April 30, 2015, 09:25:21 PM »

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Dynamic Scorer and Rim Protector?!?!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=m59m7b2

Boston Receives:
Cousins, Faried

Denver Receives:
Bradley, Collison, 2016 Dallas 1st, 2015 Philly 2nd, 2017 Cleveland 2nd

Sacramento Receives:
Lawson, Olynyk, Young, 2015 Boston 1st, 2016 Boston 1st, 2016 Minnesota 1st, 2018 Brooklyn 1st

Sign in the Offseason:
Butler
Crowder
Datome

Lineup:
Smart/Butler/Crowder/Faried/Cousins
Thomas/Turner/2015 Clippers 1st/Sullinger/Zeller

End of the Bench:
Pressy/Wallace/Datome/2015 Celtics 2nd

Boom get it  ;D

I wish!

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #102 on: April 30, 2015, 10:23:14 PM »

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Tank next season and draft either Jaylen brown or ben Simmons
Both are hopefully one and done
And we decline from this season

Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #103 on: April 30, 2015, 10:44:53 PM »

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It starts with Monroe, that's the guy we need to get.

Monroe would help for scoring and rebounding. Not much for shot blocking. Not really sure also If I want to throw 16-17 million a season for him

If he can give you 16/10/3 on around 50% shooting on a nightly basis, then I'm all for it.

I believe his size (At 6'11" / 250 lbs with a 7'5" wingspan) and low post game could completely transform this team's offense.

In that spirit, and even though I like Monroe, I'd rather make a trade for Vonleh.

I do like Vonleh a lot as a prospect, always did.  While his current ability is minimal, I think his potential is absolutely through the roof.

That said, I'm starting to get weary of all the young "nobody now with potential" guys we keep acquiring.  I think it's always nice to have 2 or 3 of those kind of guys, but right now it feels like we have about 8 of them.

I'd rather pick up a legit starter and borderline-star like Monroe rather than add another such player, but if we could sign Monroe and trade for Vonleh then I'd definitely be up for that.

Wonder if the Hornets would trade Vonleh for Turner and a late first?

I doubt it, unless they move Stephenson.  Man, I must have been watching the wrong videos on Vonleh last year, lol ;D, because I just found one that actually shows his ability, and all I can say is deng ;), haha ;D.
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Re: Ainge: Celtics need another 'dynamic scorer
« Reply #104 on: April 30, 2015, 11:11:41 PM »

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Disagree, those 3 are in the same boat as Sully, though wouldn't call it on thin ice.
  Disagree all you want, Sully was basically called out by Ainge, as having to come into camp in shape,   that is a different boat than the others, my friend.

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“Well, Jared and I have talked a lot about (his conditioning) over the past year,” Ainge said, via Celtics Hub’s Brian Robb. “It’s something we take great pride in with our players. Our players have really bought in to our program, and a lot of guys — I think every guy has met the goals that they have set in regards to strength and conditioning, and body fat, and weight, and all the different things our strength coaches do on a regular basis. “Jared just hasn’t met his goals. He’s not up to the standards that he wants and is not up to the standards that we think are in his best interests for the long-term health of his career. He’s not up to par to the standards that we feel are necessary to be a consistent winning player and play with great conditioning.” Ainge added that he’s addressed these concerns with Sullinger, who will miss the rest of the season with a stress fracture in his foot, “many, many times.” This is the second time in three seasons the forward — who was red-flagged entering the 2012 NBA draft due to a back issue — has had his year cut short due to injury. Sullinger to his credit, admitted Wednesday that while he did work to get in better shape this past offseason, he did not do enough to prepare himself for the heavy workload head coach Brad Stevens would task him with this season. The third-year big man said this injury would be the “light switch” moment that forces him to get serious about conditioning. He’ll need to prove that to his employer, though. “I don’t know the answer to that,” Ainge said. “I think that’s up to Jared. He has in place for him all the tools, it’s just a matter of him being able to do it.”

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2015/02/danny-ainge-rips-jared-sullingers-conditioning-hes-not-up-to-par/


http://nesn.com/2015/02/danny-ainge-rips-jared-sullingers-conditioning-hes-not-up-to-par/

So they are clearly not all in the same boat.   They all were measured in the post season and found lacking though.