Simmons/Windhorst Podcast

[timobusa]

Listen to the podcast, not a huge fan of Windhorst. So biased. lol

[GC003332]

LarBrd33 is notorious for posts touting his "realistic" view on the NBA and the Celtics.  It is not surprising that he would post a podcast by similar-minded people who consistently portray themselves as smarter than the average sports fan because they watch every team and know every player and they know what the TRUTH is. 

I don't need people like LarBrd33 or Bill Simmons or Brian Effin Windhorst to tell me that the Celtics don't have someone on their team like Lebron James or Kyrie Irving, or anyone close to that level.  That is something a 4 year-old can plainly see and tell me.  Thanks. 

So yes, thank you LarBrd33 for posting another great insight that meshes well with your always accurate and realistic view of the Boston Celtics which is always contrary to those of us who are just too crazy and fanatical to see the light.

To the rest of my actual Celtics fans - keep believing.

TP

[timobusa]

LarBrd33 is notorious for posts touting his "realistic" view on the NBA and the Celtics.  It is not surprising that he would post a podcast by similar-minded people who consistently portray themselves as smarter than the average sports fan because they watch every team and know every player and they know what the TRUTH is. 

I don't need people like LarBrd33 or Bill Simmons or Brian Effin Windhorst to tell me that the Celtics don't have someone on their team like Lebron James or Kyrie Irving, or anyone close to that level.  That is something a 4 year-old can plainly see and tell me.  Thanks. 

So yes, thank you LarBrd33 for posting another great insight that meshes well with your always accurate and realistic view of the Boston Celtics which is always contrary to those of us who are just too crazy and fanatical to see the light.

To the rest of my actual Celtics fans - keep believing.

TP

TP!!

[mahcus smaht]

"I learned that Marcus Smart has a long way to go, but at the very least can be a rich man's Tony Allen" 
LarBrd Im not so sure if this quote is what you have been calling Marcus Smart. TA was about as good as you can possibly be for a defensive role player. I mean he was perfect.

So your prediction that Smart will probably become a defensive role player means doesn't fit.

Simmons says his floor is as a RICH MANS Tony Allen. yes that means he thinks worst case-scenario Smart is still better than a player who has started for a playoff contender for 4 years.

[PhoSita]

I really hate Simmons' characterization of Marcus Smart as a 'Rich Man's Tony Allen'. I could get behind it if he means like...a more evolved Tony Allen, but that's not how the phrasing works. The way I take it is that he could basically be Tony Allen, but with a better pedigree.

Yeah.

I choose to take it as, "What if I told you that at his best, Marcus Smart will be exactly like Tony Allen, only he'll be more of a PG/SG as opposed to a SG/SF, he'll be a competent ball-handler and passer, and he'll be able to hit the three at a league-average rate?"

That would be a very good player, albeit not a star.



As for Simmons and Windhorst ... they should be smarter than the average sports fan.  It is their job to be knowledgeable about the NBA.  However, it's also their job to rile people up and get them talking about whatever they write or say.  So just take what they put out their with a grain of salt.

[SHAQATTACK]

LarBrd33 is notorious for posts touting his "realistic" view on the NBA and the Celtics.  It is not surprising that he would post a podcast by similar-minded people who consistently portray themselves as smarter than the average sports fan because they watch every team and know every player and they know what the TRUTH is. 

I don't need people like LarBrd33 or Bill Simmons or Brian Effin Windhorst to tell me that the Celtics don't have someone on their team like Lebron James or Kyrie Irving, or anyone close to that level.  That is something a 4 year-old can plainly see and tell me.  Thanks. 

So yes, thank you LarBrd33 for posting another great insight that meshes well with your always accurate and realistic view of the Boston Celtics which is always contrary to those of us who are just too crazy and fanatical to see the light.

To the rest of my actual Celtics fans - keep believing.

TP

TP!!

Triple TP ....love it !

[mahcus smaht]

I really hate Simmons' characterization of Marcus Smart as a 'Rich Man's Tony Allen'. I could get behind it if he means like...a more evolved Tony Allen, but that's not how the phrasing works. The way I take it is that he could basically be Tony Allen, but with a better pedigree.

Yeah.

I choose to take it as, "What if I told you that at his best, Marcus Smart will be exactly like Tony Allen, only he'll be more of a PG/SG as opposed to a SG/SF, he'll be a competent ball-handler and passer, and he'll be able to hit the three at a league-average rate?"

That would be a very good player, albeit not a star.



As for Simmons and Windhorst ... they should be smarter than the average sports fan.  It is their job to be knowledgeable about the NBA.  However, it's also their job to rile people up and get them talking about whatever they write or say.  So just take what they put out their with a grain of salt.

I agree with the Smart comparison in the way you took it.

I mean Smart is a better 3 point shooter and a better passer already. If he can get his defense to an All-NBA level which looks possible and he can learn to use his frame to get to the free throw line and get some post up situations he could be a very very good player.

[celticsclay]

LarBrd33 is notorious for posts touting his "realistic" view on the NBA and the Celtics.  It is not surprising that he would post a podcast by similar-minded people who consistently portray themselves as smarter than the average sports fan because they watch every team and know every player and they know what the TRUTH is. 

I don't need people like LarBrd33 or Bill Simmons or Brian Effin Windhorst to tell me that the Celtics don't have someone on their team like Lebron James or Kyrie Irving, or anyone close to that level.  That is something a 4 year-old can plainly see and tell me.  Thanks. 

So yes, thank you LarBrd33 for posting another great insight that meshes well with your always accurate and realistic view of the Boston Celtics which is always contrary to those of us who are just too crazy and fanatical to see the light.

To the rest of my actual Celtics fans - keep believing.

TP

TP!!

TP!!!

[Al91]

On that note ^ .....

Can we please stop comparing stats from players who began their careers in different years, especially when the difference is 5+ years? The game changes so rapidly these days. In general, I've never been a fan of comparing stats. If you want to compare TA's rookie year to Smart's then you have to basically look at the ENTIRE NBA at those two points too. The Celtics team with TA was much different than that of the team now with Smart. How can anyone use those two reference points to make any type of argument? I get it, people are literally paid to do that everyday. I don't understand why...that's just me. I'm a 24 year old guy who still values the "eye test" and actually watching games versus relying on PER, per 36 minutes stats, etc.

Only valuable "analytics" I've seen came from Houston. I love what they're doing with their D-League team and on their own court with only threes and layups. They've helped change this league so much, for better or worse is unknown.

[LarBrd33]

LarBrd33 is notorious for posts touting his "realistic" view on the NBA and the Celtics.  It is not surprising that he would post a podcast by similar-minded people who consistently portray themselves as smarter than the average sports fan because they watch every team and know every player and they know what the TRUTH is. 

I don't need people like LarBrd33 or Bill Simmons or Brian Effin Windhorst to tell me that the Celtics don't have someone on their team like Lebron James or Kyrie Irving, or anyone close to that level.  That is something a 4 year-old can plainly see and tell me.  Thanks. 

So yes, thank you LarBrd33 for posting another great insight that meshes well with your always accurate and realistic view of the Boston Celtics which is always contrary to those of us who are just too crazy and fanatical to see the light.

To the rest of my actual Celtics fans - keep believing.

TP

TP!!

TP!!!

Your welcome, fellas.  Always willing to point out the obvious

Glad we are all on the same page. 

[LarBrd33]

Listen to the podcast, not a huge fan of Windhorst. So biased. lol

As mctyson so eloquently pointed out in his ode to LarBrd33, there's not a darn thing Windhorst, myself or Simmons has said that isn't blantantly obvious to a 4 year old.  Not sure what "bias" you are referring to here.  Our team doesn't have much talent and maybe one of the players has a shot of developing into something substantial (like a rich man's tony Allen). Cavs had their way with us.  The lotto could be in store for us next season   We are going to struggle on the trade market, but Ainge might pull something off.    All of it is pretty straight forward commentary.

I'm still excited for this summer.  Our fortunes could turn around quickly if we land a Superstar free agent.  Even windhorst pointed out something along the lines of, "you know look... Maybe Ainge pulls off some lopsided trade for an allstar using jae crowder and a bunch of draft picks"... Stuff could happen.

[jeezem]

They were so bored they sent Perk in to take a cheap shot, Smith lost control and punched a guy out, and Love got himself hurt and is out the next series or longer.  Yea, that sound like a team that was coasting and bored.

[Casperian]

I think making the playoffs has done weird things to people's minds not just in terms of the tank vs no tank debate, but on the actual quality of the team.

All year long, it seemed perfectly reasonable and "part of the plan" that the Cs were in the bottom 10 (or even 5) of the league. Suddenly our boys make an inspired run and grab the 7th seed and they start getting evaluated like the 14th best team. They draw a title contender with a "Big 3" in their prime right now and of course it's not going to go well.

Whoa, slow down with the common sense. How are people supposed to look smarter than others with this narrative?

It seems like sometimes this board becomes less about talking about the celtics, their players, and their games and more about people wanting to prove they were right in some opinion they held or posted in the past. I wish there was some way to cut that down.

You cut it down by being less dismissive of opinions that you don't agree with.  When Celtic fans come here and share unpopular opinions, they are usually met with comments like, "TROLL!  HATER!! IDIOTIC!! ATTENTION-SEEKER!!, OUTLANDISH!!"... When the unpopular opinion is eventually proven right (like in the case of fans who pointed out Rondo's flaws), you can't blame those fans for wanting to point out their opinion wasn't outlandish. 

I never gave anyone a label, either. I'm calling you out for making this all about you.

You act as if you're the only one, or were the first, to point out Rondo's faults or claim his impending demise, when in fact, you're just the one who screams the loudest and in the most obnoxious way possible.

That is true for basically every single one of your posts you like to bump in case you were on the winning side of an argument.

[tarheelsxxiii]

This is one of the "experts" we are focusing on: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://image2.sina.com.cn/ty/k/p/2006-11-10/U338P6T12D2558527F44DT20061110142808.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-that-fat-elephant-cac-brian-windhorsts-entire-career-is-based-on-lebrons-nuts.21014/page-5&h=240&w=180&tbnid=OcMvi9UYN6z1_M:&zoom=1&tbnh=186&tbnw=139&usg=__mTJQ_GEFYIp24WOe8_63K8VGgi0=&docid=mCZCj2nCavXYnM&itg=1

Really?!

Really?!

You gotta be kidding. You have to be. Massive RickRoll?

[tarheelsxxiii]

Why are we always focusing on the negatives? Who cares if CLE was bored? Who expected a series that looked any different? My 64 year old mother, who has never played a sport in her life, made the same "prediction" as the OP. There are a lot of positives to take away from the series. I don't see why any Cs fan would not grab onto that and look forward to the future... not unless you dislike life.

I am struggling to understand why you are being glamorized. Hopefully you are enjoying it, though. You seem to put quite a bit of effort into it.