Resign Crowder, Trade up for Stanley Johnson, Sign Jordan=Best D in NBA

[Who]

I like the defense-dominant approach ... because when you find a way to add a scorer or two later on, things get interesting in a hurry.

Having a defense like this does a great job of setting the table for the next move. Putting the team in position to make a big leap from playoff team to title contender.

[Ilikesports17]

I think a sweet offseason would be:
Gibson for 28 and TE
Bradley for #12
#12, Sully, 16/future #1 to get Winslow
Sign Middleton

Then you have
Smart IT4
Turner Winslow
Middleton Crowder? Young
Gibson Olynyk
Zeller 2nd round project

That is a great C away from contention imo

Tho it requires a lot of cooperation from Milwakee Utah and Chicago and Sacremento

[PhoSita]

I like the defense-dominant approach ... because when you find a way to add a scorer or two later on, things get interesting in a hurry.

Having a defense like this does a great job of setting the table for the next move. Putting the team in position to make a big leap from playoff team to title contender.

Also, it seems that the players with great defensive tools often find a way to become pretty decent offensive players -- decent enough to help push the defense-first team to the next level.

Could be a result of the fact that defense-first players tend to have great physical attributes but lack all-around polish.

Probably the best reason to trade up for SJ is that it seems like it's really tough to find an elite defensive wing, and most of the very best are either superstars (and thus totally unavailable) or major liabilities on the offensive end.

[LilRip]

adding a scorer is not that easy. i would love being a defensively strong team but someone has to be able to manufacture points. Hopefully MS gets his offensive game really going next year.

i actually wouldn't mind DA signing an old vet to act as a mentor to the team. Like, i think KG will do wonders for Wiggins. In a similar vein, I think Pierce has helped Wall and Beal a ton this year.

[clover]

I think we're ALL gonna be greatly disappointed---when Crowder jumps ship as soon as free agency starts...He's playing for his next contract right now---and that interview Abby Chin did with his father, didn't give me great hope he's coming back.

What did his dad say?

The real irony would be if the cost of making the playoffs instead of sliding back into the lottery were that the C's top two  FAs--Crowder and Jerebko got sufficiently showcased to be lured away by contenders willing to overpay.

That could make this playoffs run quite costly.

[Who]

I think we're ALL gonna be greatly disappointed---when Crowder jumps ship as soon as free agency starts...He's playing for his next contract right now---and that interview Abby Chin did with his father, didn't give me great hope he's coming back.

What did his dad say?

The real irony would be if the cost of making the playoffs instead of sliding back into the lottery were that the C's top two  FAs--Crowder and Jerebko got sufficiently showcased to be lured away by contenders willing to overpay.

That could make this playoffs run quite costly.

I'd hate to see Ainge waste Boston's cap flexibility paying a bunch of role players.

[clover]

I think we're ALL gonna be greatly disappointed---when Crowder jumps ship as soon as free agency starts...He's playing for his next contract right now---and that interview Abby Chin did with his father, didn't give me great hope he's coming back.

What did his dad say?

The real irony would be if the cost of making the playoffs instead of sliding back into the lottery were that the C's top two  FAs--Crowder and Jerebko got sufficiently showcased to be lured away by contenders willing to overpay.

That could make this playoffs run quite costly.

I'd hate to see Ainge waste Boston's cap flexibility paying a bunch of role players.

Of course, this will be the last year before the cap skyrockets. Crowder and Jerebko were great finds as role players, but yeah--there's a price that doesn't make sense for each of them.

[Evantime34]

I think we're ALL gonna be greatly disappointed---when Crowder jumps ship as soon as free agency starts...He's playing for his next contract right now---and that interview Abby Chin did with his father, didn't give me great hope he's coming back.

What did his dad say?

The real irony would be if the cost of making the playoffs instead of sliding back into the lottery were that the C's top two  FAs--Crowder and Jerebko got sufficiently showcased to be lured away by contenders willing to overpay.

That could make this playoffs run quite costly.

Crowder is a restricted free agent. As long as he doesn't sign an offer sheet before we sign a good free agent we can go over the cap to sign him to any contract we want. I expect him to get paid here and his contract to not effect our pursuit of other free agents. Jerebko on the other hand I could see him leaving.

[coco]

This is the way I see it.

Must keep:
MSmart
JCrowder

Upgrade one of these immediately:
KO
Sully
Bass

Fine where they are (as backup or should be):
Jerebko
Zeller
IT4

Upgrade when time comes(not urgent):
ETurner
ABradley


Personally, I think FKaminsky is KO/Sully upgraded.  A legit 7ftr.  He plays bigger than KO and
has better range/accuracy than Sully.  Not a horrible rebounder either.  Oh, and did I mentioned he has proven to be the best big coming out?  Not potentially - but today.

As for Stanley, 1)not sure where he'd fit if we resign Crowder 2)It will take him years for him to contribute what Crowder is already contributing for us. 3)Now, If we don't resign Crowder, then, let's go get him!!!

As for Jordan.  Not a chance.  He is staying with Doc.

[35Lewis]

I like Crowder at the right price because he's young and athletic and fits Brad's system but he's a reserve and overpaying reserves is what slows rebuilds, not making the playoffs.

[e4sym0de]

I think Crowder has been our best Player in the series so far

[KeepRondo]

This is the way I see it.

Must keep:
MSmart
JCrowder

Upgrade one of these immediately:
KO
Sully
Bass

Fine where they are (as backup or should be):
Jerebko
Zeller
IT4

Upgrade when time comes(not urgent):
ETurner
ABradley


Personally, I think FKaminsky is KO/Sully upgraded.  A legit 7ftr.  He plays bigger than KO and
has better range/accuracy than Sully.  Not a horrible rebounder either.  Oh, and did I mentioned he has proven to be the best big coming out?  Not potentially - but today.

As for Stanley, 1)not sure where he'd fit if we resign Crowder 2)It will take him years for him to contribute what Crowder is already contributing for us. 3)Now, If we don't resign Crowder, then, let's go get him!!!

As for Jordan.  Not a chance.  He is staying with Doc.

Sullinger has done well with the minutes he's gotten so far. I don't think the book is closed on him yet.

[rondohondo]

Looks like Danny wants him here long term

Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge made it clear that he?d like to have soon-to-be restricted free agent Jae Crowder back with the team next year in comments the executive made in his weekly appearance on the Toucher & Rich show on 98.5 The Sports Hub in Boston (audio link). Ainge has spoken highly of Crowder in the past, but his latest remark seemingly demonstrates a desire to continue the partnership that began when Boston acquired the former 34th overall pick this past December in the Rajon Rondo trade.

?We really did like Jae Crowder, and we feel like he?s a big part of our team going forward,? Ainge said to the 98.5 hosts, according to Ben Rohrbach of WEEI.com (Twitter link).

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/04/celtics-with-crowder.html

So if we give him a Bradley type 3 yr/8mil contract , that means one of Bradley or Wallace would have to be moved in a salary dump so we would still have the cap room to sign a max free agent next year .

Don't see Bass, Jerebko or Gigi coming back unless its on the vet min, because that would ruin any chance of signing a Max free agent next year.

Crowder and Smart's D on the wing is something we should continue to build on. Adding Jordan to them would set a great foundation and back bone to this team. You can then focus on adding big time scorers

[CelticGuardian]

I think Danny definitely has the ammo to trade into the top 8-10 . That is where Johnson is projected to be . He will be as good, if not better than Crowder defensively , and has a solid offensive game already

Then hop to re-sign crowder to a Bradley type 8 mil per year contract ( Would have to move Bradley or Wallace's contract in order to still have enough to offer a max next year )

Sign Jordan to 15 mil range

PG: Thomas      / AB
SG: Smart        / Turner
SF: Crowder     / Stanley Johnso
PF: Sully           / KO
 C: Jordan        / Zeller


would have to eventually add legit scorers at the PF , PG and/or SG spot


We would be lethal Defensively

You can't trade a role player and some dead to last picks and expect other GMs to cough up the chance to draft their next star... it just doesn't work that way... they won't take nothing less than sure fire starters for picks 4-10, stars in their prime for picks 1-3.. I can see us moving up by trading Sullinger but don't be surprised if we don't crack the top-10... and I'd say this TRADING OUR NETS PICKS WOULD BE FOOLISH!!! is the only decent chance we have on getting our next star.

[rondohondo]

I think Danny definitely has the ammo to trade into the top 8-10 . That is where Johnson is projected to be . He will be as good, if not better than Crowder defensively , and has a solid offensive game already

Then hop to re-sign crowder to a Bradley type 8 mil per year contract ( Would have to move Bradley or Wallace's contract in order to still have enough to offer a max next year )

Sign Jordan to 15 mil range

PG: Thomas      / AB
SG: Smart        / Turner
SF: Crowder     / Stanley Johnso
PF: Sully           / KO
 C: Jordan        / Zeller


would have to eventually add legit scorers at the PF , PG and/or SG spot


We would be lethal Defensively

You can't trade a role player and some dead to last picks and expect other GMs to cough up the chance to draft their next star... it just doesn't work that way... they won't take nothing less than sure fire starters for picks 4-10, stars in their prime for picks 1-3.. I can see us moving up by trading Sullinger but don't be surprised if we don't crack the top-10... and I'd say this TRADING OUR NETS PICKS WOULD BE FOOLISH!!! is the only decent chance we have on getting our next star.

Well lets just look at last years draft for example....

The Bulls traded : picks 16,19 and a 2nd rd pick
Bulls got back pick # 11

Yes that didn't crack the top 10, but just about got the Bulls into the top 10

C's have plenty of more assets to move if they really want to get up and grab someone they like around # 8


With the way Dallas' season has turned out with the Rondo situation, Parsons getting hurt, and Dirk aging , that Dallas pick could become very desirable . Same with all the Brooklyn picks

If you offered something like

Bos sends: #16, clips pick, Sully or KO and one of Dallas or Brooklyns 2016 pick

I could easily seeing us getting into the top 10 and maybe getting a future 2nd back

We would still have either the dallas pick and 2 brk picks left for the future, or all 3 brooklyn picks if they want the Dallas pick.