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Re: Should we try to steal Draymond Green away from the GSW?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 10:52:00 PM »

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Draymond Green, Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris will all probably get max deals from their current teams. If Harris leaves it would probably be New York because he loves them. Brandon Knight will likely sign with Phoenix for the max as well. And Greg Monroe will probably get a max deal from somewhere. I think Gasol and Deandre Jordan will resign for max. Aldridge will get a max either in Portland or if he leaves he will still get it in San Antonio I think. We should focus on realistic targets such as Khris Middleton.

I'd agree with pretty much all of this. I even think Middleton could get the max from a team looking to steal him away from the Bucks.

I do think the term "market max" will be borne out this offseason.

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It wouldn't even surprise me that much if Milwaukee matched a max offer because trading Knight makes them not close to the luxury tax.
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Re: Should we try to steal Draymond Green away from the GSW?
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2015, 10:56:46 PM »

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It will take more than 12 million to make Golden State decline the opportunity to match.

Then how much? 15 million?

even at 12 million, how can GSW sign him, when already near the max?

Also I mean there will be other teams that could give Green 12 million a season. But I think he will be a really good fit under CBS. Celtics would be a team he would not mind playing for

There is a lot of sentiment out there that Draymond Green is going to get a max offer, which is a contract starting at $16.75m if the salary cap ends up being $67m.  Detroit is rumored to be one team interested in throwing that much money at him, while Golden State has been said to be willing to match any offer.

If Golden State matches a big offer sheet for Green, it's possible they may be interested in trading Andres Iguodala if they can make another move to get a younger, cheaper sixth man.  The Warrios probably value Iggy too much for that to be likely and there will be a lot of pressure to keep the team together if they make it to the NBA Finals, but it's something to think about.
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Re: Should we try to steal Draymond Green away from the GSW?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2015, 10:57:19 PM »

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I am sure some team will happy to take David Lee off the Warriors' hands.

It is not like he is a bad player or past his expiration date. He is still a really good player. Only one year left on his deal. GSW will be selling him off cheap to free up cash for Draymond Green.

I wouldn't expect Golden State to have any problems freeing up enough money to pay Draymond Green the max and I fully expect them to match a max offer with Steve Kerr in his corner pushing hard for him (and rightly so).

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2015, 10:58:58 PM »

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Robin Lopez - 7 million a season for 3 years

This seems incredibly optimistic.  I think I'd be willing to offer him twice as much if it would get him to leave Portland.

I said in another thread - with the cap going up so much in next few years, I think Robin Lopez can get $15-19 million a season from somebody this summer.

I think $7 million a season only gets you a Biyombo (with the way the cap is set to explode).

Re: Should we try to steal Draymond Green away from the GSW?
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2015, 11:01:24 PM »

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No one is voluntarily taking on Lee's bloated contract unless they're getting a viable player or draft pick out of it.

Re: Should we try to steal Draymond Green away from the GSW?
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2015, 11:03:04 PM »

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Robin Lopez - 7 million a season for 3 years

This seems incredibly optimistic.  I think I'd be willing to offer him twice as much if it would get him to leave Portland.

I said in another thread - with the cap going up so much in next few years, I think Robin Lopez can get $15-19 million a season from somebody this summer.

I think $7 million a season only gets you a Biyombo (with the way the cap is set to explode).

15-19 for Lopez?? no thanks

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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2015, 11:03:30 PM »

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I feel like people have to adjust the way they think of value because contracts are going to look a lot different with the cap jumping. I think Crowder will get a mid level exception kind of contract and that it totally fair. I would offer 5-6m 4 years.
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2015, 11:05:09 PM »

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Re: Should we try to steal Draymond Green away from the GSW?
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2015, 11:05:15 PM »

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I feel like people have to adjust the way they think of value because contracts are going to look a lot different with the cap jumping. I think Crowder will get a mid level exception kind of contract and that it totally fair. I would offer 5-6m 4 years.

there is nothing official. It could be 80 or 85. Not 100 like many think

GSW will have to charge higher ticket prices for going over the tax. It's not really a rich city

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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2015, 11:08:53 PM »

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I feel like people have to adjust the way they think of value because contracts are going to look a lot different with the cap jumping. I think Crowder will get a mid level exception kind of contract and that it totally fair. I would offer 5-6m 4 years.

there is nothing official. It could be 80 or 85. Not 100 like many think

GSW will have to charge higher ticket prices for going over the tax. It's not really a rich city

They will just trade Lee with a pick to Philadelphia or something. Its not a big deal. He is a great player, a defensive player of the year candidate, stretch 4, modern player and is worth the max. I would use our cap space to absorb Lee and Barnes but I don't think Golden State would want to include Barnes and instead would include a pick. Philadelphia or someone will take Lee and a pick if Golden State is terrified of the big scary one year luxury tax.
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Re: Should we try to steal Draymond Green away from the GSW?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2015, 11:09:38 PM »

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No one is voluntarily taking on Lee's bloated contract unless they're getting a viable player or draft pick out of it.
Lee is a viable player. He is a 16-18ppg scorer who can get 9-10rpg. He is a skilled big man who can shoot, post up and pass.

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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2015, 11:12:32 PM »

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No one is voluntarily taking on Lee's bloated contract unless they're getting a viable player or draft pick out of it.
Lee is a viable player. He is a 16-18ppg scorer who can get 9-10rpg. He is a skilled big man who can shoot, post up and pass.

Yep. And he's an expiring as well. Golden State wouldn't have much difficulty finding someone to take Lee off their hands for little returning payroll.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2015, 11:28:41 PM »

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No one is voluntarily taking on Lee's bloated contract unless they're getting a viable player or draft pick out of it.
Lee is a viable player. He is a 16-18ppg scorer who can get 9-10rpg. He is a skilled big man who can shoot, post up and pass.

I agree with you on shooting and passing, but I've never seen him post up, so can he actually do that?

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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2015, 11:37:11 PM »

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No one is voluntarily taking on Lee's bloated contract unless they're getting a viable player or draft pick out of it.
Lee is a viable player. He is a 16-18ppg scorer who can get 9-10rpg. He is a skilled big man who can shoot, post up and pass.

I agree with you on shooting and passing, but I've never seen him post up, so can he actually do that?

Yes, he posts up. He has been doing it more over the last few years than earlier in his career.

Almost 20% of his offense this year came from post ups. I'd say that number was even higher last year when D.Lee was playing in Mark Jackson vs this year for Steve Kerr.

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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2015, 12:33:09 AM »

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Steal him away from GSW? sure.

"steal" him by offering 12M/year or more? nope.

Patiente is key, and these Warriors are a great team because of many reasons, not because of Draymond Green. He's a good player, but overpaying for good players is not the way to build a contender.

Celtics are developing, we're not one piece or two away from contending, maybe in a couple years, but not this summer, IMO.

Draft well, extend/resign the guys who are keepers, and wait for the right move.