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Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2015, 12:28:13 PM »

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I don't think there's any one way to skin this cat to make projections on who stays and who goes. It'll all be dependent on what trade opportunities are out there and what players the teams are interested in. The talent level of our whole team is too close to each other to play the "preference" game.

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2015, 12:29:33 PM »

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Gigi and Pressey are gone in my opinion. need to clear room for the rookies.
Pressey haven’t developed a 3 point range, which he needed and Gigi- all he has to offer is 3 point range (and the potential to be the next Scalabrine)

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2015, 12:33:40 PM »

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I wouldn't be surprised if Gerald Wallace's contract gets stretched, with the increasing salary cap the effect will be minimal if anything.

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2015, 12:34:16 PM »

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the unsexy answer:
1. everyone under contract for next year is back.  Danny makes no trades for a big name. 
2. Of our own FA's, we make an offer to Crowder and probably Jerebko. 
3.Gigi gets maybe a token offer to see if Brad can do something with him in a full season. 
4. Bass is gone.  Pressey is probably gone -- replaced by someone better we pick up in the second round or by a decent vet willing to take a vet min contract

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2015, 12:37:25 PM »

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Gigi and Pressey are gone in my opinion. need to clear room for the rookies.
Pressey haven’t developed a 3 point range, which he needed and Gigi- all he has to offer is 3 point range (and the potential to be the next Scalabrine)

How many rookies do you see being on the active roster next year?

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2015, 12:38:10 PM »

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I wouldn't be surprised if Gerald Wallace's contract gets stretched, with the increasing salary cap the effect will be minimal if anything.
why stretch a contract in its final year?  makes no sense for 2 reasons:
1) as a final-year contract and for the amount he makes, his contract makes the perfect salary fill if Danny is able to make a deal for a good player already making decent money.  need that salary balance in that type of deal.
2) it's an expiring deal so even if a deal doesn't present itself, he's completely off the books at the end of the year.  why drag that on for 2 more years after that?  C's won't be contending next year no matter what Danny does.  Only reason to clear part of Wallace's deal off the books for next year is if that's needed to get the final piece of a championship puzzle.  Danny's still working on piecing together the edges of the puzzle, not the last piec.

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2015, 12:42:40 PM »

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I wouldn't be surprised if Gerald Wallace's contract gets stretched, with the increasing salary cap the effect will be minimal if anything.
why stretch a contract in its final year?  makes no sense for 2 reasons:
1) as a final-year contract and for the amount he makes, his contract makes the perfect salary fill if Danny is able to make a deal for a good player already making decent money.  need that salary balance in that type of deal.
2) it's an expiring deal so even if a deal doesn't present itself, he's completely off the books at the end of the year.  why drag that on for 2 more years after that?  C's won't be contending next year no matter what Danny does.  Only reason to clear part of Wallace's deal off the books for next year is if that's needed to get the final piece of a championship puzzle.  Danny's still working on piecing together the edges of the puzzle, not the last piec.

You stretch him to get cap space to use in free-agency. If that is not needed, then you don't do it, but next free-agency is a prime opportunity to try and acquire players via free-agency when the whole league isn't under the salary cap.

So if prior you were averse on doing it simply because you didn't want to carry future salary with you, then that's really no longer of much importance.

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2015, 07:37:32 AM »

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Hopefully Avery is traded. I was ticked off when he was re-signed but decided to trust Danny. After watching his playoff performance, I'm done.
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2015, 08:02:30 AM »

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Just get rid of Avery Bradley that's all I ask.

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2015, 08:02:50 AM »

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Hopefully Avery is traded. I was ticked off when he was re-signed but decided to trust Danny. After watching his playoff performance, I'm done.
Agreed, Avery is just not worth his money and not a starter, if we can get an SG prospect who can play i want him gone ASAP, otherwise he can stay for awhile

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2015, 08:45:46 AM »

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Gigi and Pressey are gone in my opinion. need to clear room for the rookies.
Pressey haven’t developed a 3 point range, which he needed and Gigi- all he has to offer is 3 point range (and the potential to be the next Scalabrine)

How many rookies do you see being on the active roster next year?
Who knows.. we don’t have Doc anymore. the rookies will be judged on their abilities and not by the fact that they are rookies. I trust DA to get the right players as I know nothing about college bball.  I am also expecting Young to get minutes next year.

We should as a team give the opportunity to players who have potential. Pressey for example has maxed his potential as a3rd string PG. 

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2015, 09:17:29 AM »

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I wouldn't be surprised if Gerald Wallace's contract gets stretched, with the increasing salary cap the effect will be minimal if anything.
why stretch a contract in its final year?  makes no sense for 2 reasons:
1) as a final-year contract and for the amount he makes, his contract makes the perfect salary fill if Danny is able to make a deal for a good player already making decent money.  need that salary balance in that type of deal.
2) it's an expiring deal so even if a deal doesn't present itself, he's completely off the books at the end of the year.  why drag that on for 2 more years after that?  C's won't be contending next year no matter what Danny does.  Only reason to clear part of Wallace's deal off the books for next year is if that's needed to get the final piece of a championship puzzle.  Danny's still working on piecing together the edges of the puzzle, not the last piec.

You stretch him to get cap space to use in free-agency. If that is not needed, then you don't do it, but next free-agency is a prime opportunity to try and acquire players via free-agency when the whole league isn't under the salary cap.

So if prior you were averse on doing it simply because you didn't want to carry future salary with you, then that's really no longer of much importance.
there will be enough cap space to afford 1 top player but considering how rare it is for top players to move in free agency (when not conspiring to build their own "superteam") the odds the C's would sign not one but 2 top FA's that would necessitate stretching Wallace are extremely long. 

A more likely scenario (still incredibly remote possibility though) is that the C's would have a transaction much like Miami had to do in acquiring Lebron or Bosh where they made a deal to get them rather than a straight-out FA signing.  in that situation, Wallace's expiring salary would be very helpful in making that happen (as well as including a lower-salaried prospect or 2 with some picks).

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2015, 09:22:25 AM »

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Gigi and Pressey are gone in my opinion. need to clear room for the rookies.
Pressey haven’t developed a 3 point range, which he needed and Gigi- all he has to offer is 3 point range (and the potential to be the next Scalabrine)

How many rookies do you see being on the active roster next year?
Who knows...

I do. We will definitely not have more than 2 rookies on the active roster next year, and we will most likely only have one.

We do not need to clear room unless we try to sign more than 2 veterans.

Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2015, 09:28:34 AM »

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It's hard to see anybody offering Crowder more than 5 or 6 million a year, and while that's an overpay under the current cap regime, it'll quickly become a major bargain, so long as Crowder shows steady improvement in an increased role, once the cap jumps in the next couple of years.

I can see role players like Crowder finding a team that will overpay, gambling that there is a chance he could break out and be worth 75% of whatever contract Draymond Green gets and that the risk is worth taking because if it doesn't work out, it won't hurt future flexibility that much since the cap is going up.

I don't see why we couldn't offer him a Tony Allen to the Grizz type contract. Looks like it was in the range of 3 years 9-10 mil. Seems fair on both ends and TA had much more value coming out of Boston and years of experience and consistency.
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Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2015, 09:28:50 AM »

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Gigi and Pressey are gone in my opinion. need to clear room for the rookies.
Pressey haven’t developed a 3 point range, which he needed and Gigi- all he has to offer is 3 point range (and the potential to be the next Scalabrine)

How many rookies do you see being on the active roster next year?
Who knows...

I do. We will definitely not have more than 2 rookies on the active roster next year, and we will most likely only have one.

We do not need to clear room unless we try to sign more than 2 veterans.
Maybe and maybe not, if anything this season showed how things are not predictable.