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Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« on: April 22, 2015, 05:56:41 PM »

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There are a ton of threads about who we might sign or trade for during the off season, but I'm curious to see who you guys think will be gone. Either through trades or free agency, who won't be wearing Celtics green next year?

For me, it's gotta be Bradley and Sully.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2015, 06:02:38 PM »

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Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 06:05:51 PM »

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It's really hard to say who will be back.

I think that Bradley will be shopped, and that Ainge will look to trade one of Sullinger or Olynyk (preference to trade Sullinger).  Those guys will only get traded if it's possible to make a significant move up in the draft, or acquire an established talent with higher upside.

I could see Bass or Jerebko coming back, if one of the Sullynyk pairing is traded and the team doesn't draft a replacement.  Then again, it'd be unsurprising to see both sign elsewhere.

If the team wants to make use of its cap space, or there is a trade opportunity for a guy with a larger contract (e.g. Gallinari), Wallace will be gone.

Evan Turner, I think, will be very expendable, but his trade value is likely negligible, and whether or not he stays will probably depend on who the team adds on the wing this off-season.

Pressey could easily get cut if the team drafts a point guard with upside beyond 3rd stringer.

Gigi will likely become redundant if the team acquires any wing players, but he might stick around as a 3rd stringer if the price is right.  He could also go back overseas.

I believe the team will re-sign Crowder unless somebody makes him a ludicrous offer.  Even if it takes 5 million a year or a bit more (i.e. to match MLE offers), I think he'll still be around.

The only players I am confident will be here in 6 months are Smart, Thomas, Young, Zeller, Crowder, and one of Sullinger and Olynyk.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 06:07:03 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 06:11:28 PM »

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Who I'd like to see back:

CROWDER
JEREBKO
SMART
TURNER
ZELLER
GIGI
BASS
OLYNYK
BRADLEY
THOMAS

Who I couldn't care less about:
SULLINGER
PRESSEY
WALLACE
YOUNG

Who will probably be gone:
BASS
SULLINGER(draft night trade)
GIGI
JEREBKO
CROWDER(someone will overpay)
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Re: Who Won't Be Back Next Year?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 06:15:10 PM »

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It's hard to see anybody offering Crowder more than 5 or 6 million a year, and while that's an overpay under the current cap regime, it'll quickly become a major bargain, so long as Crowder shows steady improvement in an increased role, once the cap jumps in the next couple of years.


As for Young, while I think the team will try to hold onto him to see what he might turn into if he can become an adequate NBA defender, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him used as a trade sweetener to move up in the draft or acquire a proven starter-caliber NBA player.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 06:22:57 PM »

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I think every player on the roster has a chance of coming back, depending on who gets moved.

My guess is that the Bradley-Smart-Thomas guard rotation gets treated as the core and Ainge tries to bring in a frontcourt star who complements them.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 06:29:01 PM »

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It's hard to see anybody offering Crowder more than 5 or 6 million a year, and while that's an overpay under the current cap regime, it'll quickly become a major bargain, so long as Crowder shows steady improvement in an increased role, once the cap jumps in the next couple of years.

I can see role players like Crowder finding a team that will overpay, gambling that there is a chance he could break out and be worth 75% of whatever contract Draymond Green gets and that the risk is worth taking because if it doesn't work out, it won't hurt future flexibility that much since the cap is going up.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 06:37:00 PM »

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It's hard to see anybody offering Crowder more than 5 or 6 million a year, and while that's an overpay under the current cap regime, it'll quickly become a major bargain, so long as Crowder shows steady improvement in an increased role, once the cap jumps in the next couple of years.

I can see role players like Crowder finding a team that will overpay, gambling that there is a chance he could break out and be worth 75% of whatever contract Draymond Green gets and that the risk is worth taking because if it doesn't work out, it won't hurt future flexibility that much since the cap is going up.

I think that the chance of somebody offering Crowder closer to 50-75% of whatever Draymond is going to get (i.e. 12-15 million) would be a lot higher if Crowder had proven an ability to consistently hit the three point shot at break-even or better rates.

As it is, he's shown some outside shooting ability, but for the most part he's still an inconsistent and overall mediocre three point shooter, not unlike Sullinger.

If Crowder shot something like 36% on threes on a few attempts a game, he'd be comparable to a guy like Matt Barnes, only he's about 10 years younger.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 06:37:34 PM »

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We need to get Turner and Bass out of here ASAP. Maybe try and trade up using Sully/AB.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 06:51:51 PM »

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I think every player on the roster has a chance of coming back, depending on who gets moved.

My guess is that the Bradley-Smart-Thomas guard rotation gets treated as the core and Ainge tries to bring in a frontcourt star who complements them.

Agree with the first; it's a complete toss up. I'd say Pressey and Bass probably get squeezed out. Gigi as well.

Not sold on a 3-guard core with one ball handler. Smart and Bradley look like redundant. Both complementary. And I'm not sold on IT on a deep playoff team. His minutes should shrink, not increase, in the playoffs,  on a contender. He should lose minutes to starters.

Good question is what package is Danny looking to move?

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 06:57:27 PM »

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Bass is gone, he has had a bad series too.   I think DA makes a decent offer to Jonas, but one that will not break the bank.

I could see ET being used as a chip and Sully being shipped out if he does not get himself in shape.  AB has been bad in the playoffs but I have always heard Ainge loves him.

I would not mind seeing a sign and trade for someone to bring in or some picks used.   We need some guys who can create for themselves.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 07:19:17 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 07:30:13 PM »

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Possibilities most likely ......but really tuff to say.....DA is no hurry ....LeBron still own the East , no rush while he still is in his prime

About half the team ...

Unless he moves guys in a trade draft night  ???



Gigi
Jonas
Sully
ET
Bass
Wallace
Pressey


I think at least three disappear this summer and another four during the season

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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2015, 07:31:31 PM »

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-Bass is gone,
-Crowder is probably gone unless we get him for a bargain which I doubt we will.
-Jerebko might stay because he won't command too much on the open market.
-Datome is gone unless he's super cheap (just might be available for us)
-Pressey might be gone but he's very cheap- depends who we draft with the 2nd pick.

I think it's quite possible that with these guys above gone, we see Ainge cull the roster with a trade of Bradley or Olynyk/Sullinger.

Let's imagine Bradley is traded to the Jazz for their lottery pick + Rodney Hood.
We combine a Brooklyn pick+Jazz pick+our pick and go for Justise Winslow at around #7 or #8.
Clippers pick we take BPA ie Tyus Jones and go for a big man with a 2nd rounder like Dakari Johnson.

Leaving us with:

Smart
Hood (or insert young player received via trade here)
Winslow
Sullinger
Zeller

-Olynyk
-Thomas
-James Young
-Jerebeko
-Datome (maybe)
-Draft pick (Dakari Johnson)
-Draft pick(Tyus Jones)
-2nd round pick stashed in Europe
-Wallace

probably a 30 win team but gives Stevens a lot of young talent to develop as he was brought in to do. Coach them up and improve their BBall IQ's and increase their trade value.
If we can't move up far enough to get someone like Winslow, we could attempt to get Cauley Stein and put him next to Sullinger/Olynyk when Zeller sits.
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