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Hoping GMs buy the tourney hype
« on: April 06, 2015, 07:34:58 AM »

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For the sake of the Celtics first round pick I'm hoping other GMs in the league buy into the Tourney hype. Three players have seen their stock really jump in the media and in mock drafts. Winslow, Dekker, and Kaminsky. Its not to say that I don't think all three of these guys should make solid pros but since the mid point in the NCAA season I have viewed all 3 as being outside my top two tiers.

Okafor, Towns, Mudiay, Russell, Herzonja, Prozingis, Johnson, and WCS are my top eight. (with winslow as the 9th guy and top of 3rd tier) I have been hoping all season that the Cs find a way to land one of these players. If has been speculated that some NBA teams also have Looney and Turner in this mix. Add to that the rise of the Wisconsin duo and the Cs may be looking at one of my top 8 guys falling outside the top 10 and potentially in striking range for a trade.
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I agree with you about the Wisconsin boys- they don't have any place inside the top 10.
I don't agree with you on Winslow and I've thought that both he and Trey Lyles (Lyles maybe top 6 or 7) could potentially creep into the top 5 for quite a while now. If anyone is going to drop it's Stanley Johnson or one of the international guys. In my opinion Winslow has the potential to be the best player out of this draft- his game is very advanced for his age when you consider his shooting ability and transition offense and overall defensive game.


I do hope the idiotic Kings decide that Kaminsky would be a perfect fit next to Cousins-who knows with their lunatic owner.

I think that Ainge is going to try and find a way to move up in this draft with all these picks coming out of our ears so he'll make a play at whoever he thinks has serious All Star potential.
My guess would be Porzingis because he's the new type of NBA stretch PF/SF with range and ball skills+ length.

I really hope we don't take Kaminsky or Dekker though, with you all the way.
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I'll add that if we do end up with pick #13 or #14 I'm hoping Jerian Grant will still be around.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2015, 09:14:30 AM »

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I agree with you about the Wisconsin boys- they don't have any place inside the top 10.
I don't agree with you on Winslow and I've thought that both he and Trey Lyles (Lyles maybe top 6 or 7) could potentially creep into the top 5 for quite a while now. If anyone is going to drop it's Stanley Johnson or one of the international guys. In my opinion Winslow has the potential to be the best player out of this draft- his game is very advanced for his age when you consider his shooting ability and transition offense and overall defensive game.


I do hope the idiotic Kings decide that Kaminsky would be a perfect fit next to Cousins-who knows with their lunatic owner.

I think that Ainge is going to try and find a way to move up in this draft with all these picks coming out of our ears so he'll make a play at whoever he thinks has serious All Star potential.
My guess would be Porzingis because he's the new type of NBA stretch PF/SF with range and ball skills+ length.

I really hope we don't take Kaminsky or Dekker though, with you all the way.

I don't dislike Winslow but he is being greatly over ranked. On mike and mike this morning they where actually mentioning him as the 3rd pick. Right now he is having an amazing tournament because he is playing the small ball four and using his super motor to really take over the game. In the NBA he will be an upgraded version on Jae Crowder, a utility type wing. He is bigger and more athletic then crowder but their skill sets seem very similar. No questions asked he is a lottery pick but to me he is the 8th-9th guy. Out of my top 8 only S Johnson is debatable with Winslow. They to are very similar players I just feel Johnson's size and strength at the SF will allow him to excel in a small ball role more so then Winslow. 

Unless word comes out that they are looking to stay in Europe I dont see either Herzonja or Prozingis falling and could even see Provingis cracking the top 4. 7'1 shot blockers with 3pt range are so rare teams will find it hard to pass on him.
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I agree with you about the Wisconsin boys- they don't have any place inside the top 10.
I don't agree with you on Winslow and I've thought that both he and Trey Lyles (Lyles maybe top 6 or 7) could potentially creep into the top 5 for quite a while now. If anyone is going to drop it's Stanley Johnson or one of the international guys. In my opinion Winslow has the potential to be the best player out of this draft- his game is very advanced for his age when you consider his shooting ability and transition offense and overall defensive game.


I do hope the idiotic Kings decide that Kaminsky would be a perfect fit next to Cousins-who knows with their lunatic owner.

I think that Ainge is going to try and find a way to move up in this draft with all these picks coming out of our ears so he'll make a play at whoever he thinks has serious All Star potential.
My guess would be Porzingis because he's the new type of NBA stretch PF/SF with range and ball skills+ length.

I really hope we don't take Kaminsky or Dekker though, with you all the way.

I don't dislike Winslow but he is being greatly over ranked. On mike and mike this morning they where actually mentioning him as the 3rd pick. Right now he is having an amazing tournament because he is playing the small ball four and using his super motor to really take over the game. In the NBA he will be an upgraded version on Jae Crowder, a utility type wing. He is bigger and more athletic then crowder but their skill sets seem very similar. No questions asked he is a lottery pick but to me he is the 8th-9th guy. Out of my top 8 only S Johnson is debatable with Winslow. They to are very similar players I just feel Johnson's size and strength at the SF will allow him to excel in a small ball role more so then Winslow. 

Unless word comes out that they are looking to stay in Europe I dont see either Herzonja or Prozingis falling and could even see Provingis cracking the top 4. 7'1 shot blockers with 3pt range are so rare teams will find it hard to pass on him.

I agree with everything you say except I'm still much higher on Winslow than you. In fact I'd be shocked if he doesn't go top 6. Here's a highlight film. Watch this and you'll notice just how much better he is on the fast break than Crowder, and also his incredible anticipation- he's even got a bonafied euro step and executes it perfectly ala James Harden.
Given his size, strength, shooting stroke and dribble ability, I think he's a much more elite prospect than even Stanley Johnson. In the NBA he'll be a shooting guard or a small forward.
The funny thing is, of all those talents I've mentioned above, we haven't even talked about his defensive tenacity.
He's a true workhorse. I bet Ainge is desperately trying to come up with scenarios in which we trade for him because he is much like James Harden was in college- less polished but bigger and stronger and far better defender. Harden's come a long way but Winslow's potential as an NBA 2 or 3 is pretty huge.

I'm looking forward to watching Winslow vs Dekker tomorrow :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQvdekpUz6U
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I'll add that if we do end up with pick #13 or #14 I'm hoping Jerian Grant will still be around.
the celtics cannot get picks #13 or #14. those are taken by western conference teams who have better w/l records. for the celtics it looks to be #10 to 12, or #15 or 16 in the draft.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2015, 10:26:27 AM »

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I think Townes and Winslow are the 2 most likely college players in this draft who may become all-stars. Winslow has it all. He plays with great control and explosion.

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I think Townes and Winslow are the 2 most likely college players in this draft who may become all-stars. Winslow has it all. He plays with great control and explosion.

Chances are high that there'll be at least six all stars in this draft. 

Let's hope Danny gets one of them. 
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Winslow was a little under the radar before the tourney...he will be top 6-7 now.

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I don't understand the Cauley-Stein hype at all.  He's one of those guys I hope is already gone by the time the Celtics pick.  Just like Aaron Gordon was to me last year.


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I don't understand the Cauley-Stein hype at all.  He's one of those guys I hope is already gone by the time the Celtics pick.  Just like Aaron Gordon was to me last year.

TP for calling that one.  I was really hoping we drafted him.  Which is why I'm not the Celtics GM.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ainge may have rings and professional basketball experience, but I've got the internet, a keyboard and nothing better to do. 

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If we make the playoffs, none of these guys will be an issue for us. Relax.

Look at Oubre, Dunn, Grant for right now..

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I agree with you about the Wisconsin boys- they don't have any place inside the top 10.
I don't agree with you on Winslow and I've thought that both he and Trey Lyles (Lyles maybe top 6 or 7) could potentially creep into the top 5 for quite a while now. If anyone is going to drop it's Stanley Johnson or one of the international guys. In my opinion Winslow has the potential to be the best player out of this draft- his game is very advanced for his age when you consider his shooting ability and transition offense and overall defensive game.


I do hope the idiotic Kings decide that Kaminsky would be a perfect fit next to Cousins-who knows with their lunatic owner.

I think that Ainge is going to try and find a way to move up in this draft with all these picks coming out of our ears so he'll make a play at whoever he thinks has serious All Star potential.
My guess would be Porzingis because he's the new type of NBA stretch PF/SF with range and ball skills+ length.

I really hope we don't take Kaminsky or Dekker though, with you all the way.

I don't dislike Winslow but he is being greatly over ranked. On mike and mike this morning they where actually mentioning him as the 3rd pick. Right now he is having an amazing tournament because he is playing the small ball four and using his super motor to really take over the game. In the NBA he will be an upgraded version on Jae Crowder, a utility type wing. He is bigger and more athletic then crowder but their skill sets seem very similar. No questions asked he is a lottery pick but to me he is the 8th-9th guy. Out of my top 8 only S Johnson is debatable with Winslow. They to are very similar players I just feel Johnson's size and strength at the SF will allow him to excel in a small ball role more so then Winslow. 

Unless word comes out that they are looking to stay in Europe I dont see either Herzonja or Prozingis falling and could even see Provingis cracking the top 4. 7'1 shot blockers with 3pt range are so rare teams will find it hard to pass on him.

I agree with everything you say except I'm still much higher on Winslow than you. In fact I'd be shocked if he doesn't go top 6. Here's a highlight film. Watch this and you'll notice just how much better he is on the fast break than Crowder, and also his incredible anticipation- he's even got a bonafied euro step and executes it perfectly ala James Harden.
Given his size, strength, shooting stroke and dribble ability, I think he's a much more elite prospect than even Stanley Johnson. In the NBA he'll be a shooting guard or a small forward.
The funny thing is, of all those talents I've mentioned above, we haven't even talked about his defensive tenacity.
He's a true workhorse. I bet Ainge is desperately trying to come up with scenarios in which we trade for him because he is much like James Harden was in college- less polished but bigger and stronger and far better defender. Harden's come a long way but Winslow's potential as an NBA 2 or 3 is pretty huge.

I'm looking forward to watching Winslow vs Dekker tomorrow :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQvdekpUz6U

Winslow will be pick #5. Towns, Okafor, Mudiay, Russell, Winslow will be the top 5. We're not going to move up 10 spots my man. Just not going to happen. Give up on your Winslow dreams..

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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2015, 12:10:39 PM »

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If we make the playoffs, none of these guys will be an issue for us. Relax.

Look at Oubre, Dunn, Grant for right now..
I'm hoping for Portis, Oubre or Dunn at 15. This draft is so 1998 all over again. Stanley Johnson could have a Paul Pierce draft day. Cs have to be ready to trade up JIC.

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I think Townes and Winslow are the 2 most likely college players in this draft who may become all-stars. Winslow has it all. He plays with great control and explosion.

Chances are high that there'll be at least six all stars in this draft. 

Let's hope Danny gets one of them.
I keep thinking the same that this draft is deep. Which really makes getting the 15th pick a bummer.