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Would you trade Bradley+the Clippers pick for the 12th pick in the 2015 NBA draft?

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Author Topic: Zach Lowe Speculates the Jazz could want Bradley. Would you trade him for #12 ?  (Read 30172 times)

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Offline Beat LA

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In a heartbeat.  Getting Hood would be great, as well, imo.  All of this depends on whether or not we make the playoffs, though.  If we do, yes, I'd make the deal.  If not, I probably still would, but I'd at least like the chance to think it over.  Why would Utah be dumb enough to do such a deal, anyway?

Yeah I doubt they'd throw in Hood as well though. Who knows.
Well I guess he is a good fit for them.
With Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Exum adding Bradley would be a great young core and Bradley's contract will be a bargain. They have their elite defensive center, their PF, their SF and their project PG. Bradley would bring some young veteran leadership.

We are still looking for our Gobert, Sully appears to be our Favors, and Smart is our Exum.
We need our Hayward or Gobert and Cauley Stein is available at #10-12 him+one of Ponzingris or Heznoja would be excellent additions to Smart and Sullinger.

Yeah, I think that including Hood in any deal is probably far more unlikely now given his play of late.

Re: Trade Bradley for 11-12th pick from Jazz?
« Reply #106 on: April 07, 2015, 04:39:57 AM »

Offline Smartacus

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I think there was already a thread about this.

Yeah I'd do it... especially if we could get them to eat Bradley's salary.  That would be a no-brainer.

Ainge could get nearly any team in the league with cap space to "eat" Bradley's deal. It's not a bad deal.

Even Zach Lowe calls it a nice deal and he's about as well informed a guy as there is in the NBA.
I mean that's the thing though... getting the #12 pick would be half of it.  The other half would be freeing up another 8 mil in cap space to sign a replacement player for Bradley.  I think Bradley is a fine player, but I'm sure you could fairly easily get a comparable one for the money he makes.

So then the question isn't "Would you trade Bradley for #12"... it becomes "would you trade Bradley for #12 and a free agent like Arron Afflalo"

I see where you're heading, but Ainge would have to be pretty certain he had "free agent X" in the bag to round out the entire value.

Well we are in a unique position this summer.  It's basically the first time in the history of the franchise that we have cap space to offer a max contract.  We have something like 26 mil in cap space.  But that's if you assume we let Bass, Crowder, and Jerebko walk.  It also doesn't include the money we'll need to pay our 2015 rookies which is a few mil.    So I'll let you decide what we're looking at, but it should still be a significant chunk of money to go after a quality player or two.

I guess Ainge would have to decide if freeing up another 8 mil would be beneficial.  Does he want to put himself in position to have 34 mil in cap space... and be able to call up Kevin Love and say, Kevin... We got a max contract waiting for you... plus feel free to convince another free agent to join along with you cuz we got them covered as well.   It would be a long-shot, but having 34 mil in cap space (and maybe even more if we stretch the final year of Gerald Wallace or give up a pick to Philly to have them take him off our hands for a few months) would at least give you a fighting chance of signing a couple guys like Kevin Love and Marc Gasol as a package deal.

Or maybe it just affords you the luxury to say, "Ok, we're gonna offer Asik 10 mil.  Offer Greg Monroe 12 mil... and still have another 10-12 mil to go after a Bradley replacement... preferably one with appropriate size for the position so we can consider starting Thomas"

Check out the list:  http://hoopshype.com/free_agency_2015.htm   ... Think you could find a suitable Bradley replacement for 8 mil?  I mean, you might not even need a SG if the plan is to start Thomas + Smart ... (or go after Ty Lawson via trade this summer as some have suggested... Lawson and Smart could be our back court and we could use the Bradley money towards upgrading a position of need)

If the Jazz offer #12 for Bradley and can absorb his salary, I think it's a no-brainer.   I doubt that offer will be on the table, though.

I see what you're saying. It certainly carries its own risk though.

Boston could certainly strike out and end up with a lesser talented team next season.
There are risks.  But regardless of how it impacts the cap situation, if you can get #12 for a role player like Bradley, it's probably a smart move.  I think that's about as high as you're ever going to be able to sell Bradley for.  Teams were offering late 1sts for him at the deadline.

Think this is an underrated point. Bradley is as good at what he does as anyone could expect but players that are nearly as good are snatched up every day. Patrick Beverly was second team all defense barely 2 years removed from Russia.

At this point in the rebuild there are probably other spots that require attention than first guard off the bench. At 12-15 there are impact players lyying in wait. James Young could be tried out to fill in the minutes. If he succeeds Gravy, we found a hell of weapon. If he fails we'll have given him a shot and can move on with confidence.

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No...

Bradley is a nice player.   He's a 15 PPG scorer at the guard position, he's an outstanding defender, and he's a walking Tommy Point.  I IMHO he's also shown significant improvement this year as a passer, ball handler and decision maker.

He's not likely to be a star any time soon, but he's been a pretty solid starter and arguably the best player on what is potentially a playoff team.

Draft picks in the 10-12 range are generally pretty risky, and from what I've read this upcoming draft is looking to be a very top heavy one.  The chance of drafting a guy as good as Bradley (or even nearly as good) is not probably.

Not worth the risk imho.  I absolutely love the defence that happend when Smart and Bradley are on the court together,  and I think that's about the only thing thats allowed this team to compete for a playoff spot throughout the year.

Offline bleedGREENdon

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The more I think about it, we should pounce on this if its avaliae. Trade our pick and a pick next year pick n Sully  , whatever it takes, to move into top 5.

Grab Winslow.

winslow > Avery any day of the week this kid is going to be a star.

Smart
Young
Winslow

^^^ huge backcourt and if young develops we can have outstanding defense.

Then go after Afflalo so he essentially starts until young develops.
Max to Love.
Max to gasol, if not grab robin

Smart/Isaiah
Afflalo/young
Winslow/crowder
Love/Kelly
Gasol/Zeller

Let's go banner 18!!!!!

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I predict ....from pick 10 -20 there will be one person pretty good.....and then there will be a million threads on why didn't DA trade AB or Sully to get this or that player . 

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I think Sully could be a trade chip to move up this year.

Offline MikeJelly

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The more I think about it, we should pounce on this if its avaliae. Trade our pick and a pick next year pick n Sully  , whatever it takes, to move into top 5.

Grab Winslow.

winslow > Avery any day of the week this kid is going to be a star.

Smart
Young
Winslow

^^^ huge backcourt and if young develops we can have outstanding defense.

Then go after Afflalo so he essentially starts until young develops.
Max to Love.
Max to gasol, if not grab robin

Smart/Isaiah
Afflalo/young
Winslow/crowder
Love/Kelly
Gasol/Zeller

Let's go banner 18!!!!!

I LOVE this idea!!! It's not super realistic but hey, dream big right? :)