Zach Lowe Speculates the Jazz could want Bradley. Would you trade him for #12 ?

[chambers]

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/pick-or-trade-what-should-the-jazz-do-to-make-the-leap/

" Avery Bradley

Again: Utah may look at wing players before point guards, since you need two of them on the court at once. Bradley is perfect. He’s about the same age as Favors and Hayward, he’s content working for off-ball jumpers at the shooting-guard spot while Hayward works the pick-and-roll, and he would give Utah a third vicious defender in the starting lineup.

He’s also locked up on a nice contract through 2017-18.

The Celtics turned down offers of a late first-round pick for Bradley at the deadline, but perhaps a pick about 10 spots higher than that would tempt Danny Ainge. What if Utah tossed in Hood?

It’s a long shot. Boston has too many first-round picks as it is, and Ainge adores Bradley. The Celtics are more likely to package some of their own late first-round picks to try to move up in the draft. "

Would Utah give up their #12 pick for Avery Bradley + the Clippers pick?

Would we be happy with a return like this for Bradley? I would be VERY happy with this, I think a top 15 pick for Avery Bradley is a nice return.

If we ended up with the 13th pick, and Utah gets the 12th pick, I'd honestly rather do whatever we have to do to move up and secure Heznoja or Porzingis if they are still at #8 and #9.
I think with a Brooklyn pick we should be able to move up from #12 or #13 into the top 10.

Charlotte, Detroit, Denver or Atlanta should have a shot at getting either one of those guys.
ie:
Celtics send:
2015 pick#12
Clippers pick#26
Brooklyn pick 2016

Celtics receive #7 or #8 pick +a future 2nd round pick.

I believe that Ainge will do this for Heznoja (after reports said he was watching him at a Barcelona game recently and supposedly loves Heznoja). I personally would love Porzingis above all else but he may go top 5 or 6.

So if we could get our hands on the #8 pick AND the Jazz #12 pick, which two players would you take with them?

[Beat LA]

In a heartbeat.  Getting Hood would be great, as well, imo.  All of this depends on whether or not we make the playoffs, though.  If we do, yes, I'd make the deal.  If not, I probably still would, but I'd at least like the chance to think it over.  Why would Utah be dumb enough to do such a deal, anyway?

[Csfan1984]

AB and Clippers for 12 not sure because a guy can slip.
 But with Hood thrown in yes I'd take that deal.
If it's AB and  Philly 2nd for 12 I'd take the deal as well.

[Smartacus]

I'm a Bradley fan and supporter, think he's been Ainge's best draft pick in the last 5 years, but for a chance at #12 I'd have to ship him out and give his spot to Marcus Smart.

Someone on this blog raised the point that it was possible that Marcus Smart was never drafted to be a replacement for Rondo at the starting lead guard but rather a successor to Bradley at athletic perimeter stopper. Upgrading the Clips pick to late lottery would open up options.

We and the Jazz will likely finish with very similar picks and Danny has recent experience from the Sulley /Fab draft at drafting at slots back to back or close to it. Frees him up to go, solid contributor high ceiling gamble with something like Frank Kaminsky/Mario Hezonja or instead gamble on 2 projects and hope one or both stick like Myles Turner/Kelly Oubre or even attempts to suddenly turn us overnight into the biggest team in the East I.E. Willey Caulie-Stein/Kristpas Porzingis.

Think Bradley'd be heading to a great situation and it cleans up the minor logjam that is our back court.

[chambers]

In a heartbeat.  Getting Hood would be great, as well, imo.  All of this depends on whether or not we make the playoffs, though.  If we do, yes, I'd make the deal.  If not, I probably still would, but I'd at least like the chance to think it over.  Why would Utah be dumb enough to do such a deal, anyway?

Yeah I doubt they'd throw in Hood as well though. Who knows.
Well I guess he is a good fit for them.
With Gobert, Favors, Hayward, Exum adding Bradley would be a great young core and Bradley's contract will be a bargain. They have their elite defensive center, their PF, their SF and their project PG. Bradley would bring some young veteran leadership.

We are still looking for our Gobert, Sully appears to be our Favors, and Smart is our Exum.
We need our Hayward or Gobert and Cauley Stein is available at #10-12 him+one of Ponzingris or Heznoja would be excellent additions to Smart and Sullinger.

[chambers]

I'm a Bradley fan and supporter, think he's been Ainge's best draft pick in the last 5 years, but for a chance at #12 I'd have to ship him out and give his spot to Marcus Smart.

Someone on this blog raised the point that it was possible that Marcus Smart was never drafted to be a replacement for Rondo at the starting lead guard but rather a successor to Bradley at athletic perimeter stopper. Upgrading the Clips pick to late lottery would open up options.

We and the Jazz will likely finish with very similar picks and Danny has recent experience from the Sulley /Fab draft at drafting at slots back to back or close to it. Frees him up to go, solid contributor high ceiling gamble with something like Frank Kaminsky/Mario Hezonja or instead gamble on 2 projects and hope one or both stick like Myles Turner/Kelly Oubre or even attempts to suddenly turn us overnight into the biggest team in the East I.E. Willey Caulie-Stein/Kristpas Porzingis.

Think Bradley'd be heading to a great situation and it cleans up the minor logjam that is our back court.

I like your thinking.
Can you imagine if we were lucky enough to get Willy and Porzingis to add to Smart?
We could then look to trade Sully and/or Olynyk for a small forward.

Smart
Young
?
Ponzingris
Willy Cauley Stein.

That is a big team lol.

[Smartacus]

I'm a Bradley fan and supporter, think he's been Ainge's best draft pick in the last 5 years, but for a chance at #12 I'd have to ship him out and give his spot to Marcus Smart.

Someone on this blog raised the point that it was possible that Marcus Smart was never drafted to be a replacement for Rondo at the starting lead guard but rather a successor to Bradley at athletic perimeter stopper. Upgrading the Clips pick to late lottery would open up options.

We and the Jazz will likely finish with very similar picks and Danny has recent experience from the Sulley /Fab draft at drafting at slots back to back or close to it. Frees him up to go, solid contributor high ceiling gamble with something like Frank Kaminsky/Mario Hezonja or instead gamble on 2 projects and hope one or both stick like Myles Turner/Kelly Oubre or even attempts to suddenly turn us overnight into the biggest team in the East I.E. Willey Caulie-Stein/Kristpas Porzingis.

Think Bradley'd be heading to a great situation and it cleans up the minor logjam that is our back court.

I like your thinking.
Can you imagine if we were lucky enough to get Willy and Porzingis to add to Smart?
We could then look to trade Sully and/or Olynyk for a small forward.

Smart
Young
?
Ponzingris
Willy Cauley Stein.

That is a big team lol.

Works for me maybe one of the Kawaii Leonard/Jimmy Butler/Khris Middleton restricted max guys. That's a big team especially if we could manage to keep Olynyk.

[Who]

Yes. Absolutely yes.

A late lottery pick for an undersized role player? That is a steal.

[BleedGreen1989]

The grass is always greener...

I'm not sure it's the no brainier some are making it out to be. We also add the Clippers pick?

Even Zach Lowe says its a "long shot".

[ssspence]

Ainge would need to see 'value' in the pick to part with Bradley, who he rightly believes is a solid long-term piece.  In other words, he'd have to feel someone feel far from his proper draft position.

[GreenFaith1819]

Nope.

Need more before I'd listen.

[revtodd64]

I could see this as a possible draft day trade, depending on who falls to the Utah spot.  A lot will depend on final draft order.  If Utah slides into the #10 pick and we are looking at Johnson, Herzonja, Porzingis, or Cauley-Stein falling that far, I'd consider trading Bradley and the Clips pick to get there.  I would then package our 1st and James Young to do a sign and trade with Milwaukee for Khris Middleton.  We have so many picks and decent role players that we need some 2 for 1 trades to upgrade our talent and clear the log jam.  Imagine these starting line ups:

Smart/IT4, Middleton, Stanley Johnson, Sullinger, Zeller
Smart, Middleton, Turner/Crowder, Sullinger, Cauley-Stein.

With a deep bench that is a very good team.  I still think we would be one upgrade away from a championship team.

[beantownboy171]

I think if this happened it would probably be done to move up in the draft. We could maybe package 11 + 12 to get someone like Justice Winslow or Willie Cauley-Stein.

It's a way we can trade up into the top 8 without giving up a brooklyn pick.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Danny would be crazy not to do this deal, even if it's for a straight Bradley for #12 swap.

I believe that Bradley is who he is right now, a decent shooter who can defend PG at a very good rate but is small for his position. There's solid potential coming in from that #12 pick. And the best part is we can save a ton of money with that deal as well.

I'd actually throw in a 2nd rounder or two (one for this year and one in the future) with Bradley just for that #12 deal to be a little less of a long shot.

[Csfan1984]

I think if this happened it would probably be done to move up in the draft. We could maybe package 11 + 12 to get someone like Justice Winslow or Willie Cauley-Stein.

It's a way we can trade up into the top 8 without giving up a brooklyn pick.

WCS for 11+12 would be a bad deal. WCS drafted at 11 or 12 is a good deal. Winslow is worth trading up for but 11 +12 no. Rather have Oubre and Poeltl/Turner/Portis than just Winslow. C's need a lot of help.