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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 07:12:11 AM »

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Olynyk  was a +13 tonight, and all people here do is complain.

When a guy is 1-9 those complaints are justified no matter what his PER was, get real.  He  rebounded well but his shot was off tonight, for you to pretend it was not is downright silly.

http://www.nba.com/games/20150322/DETBOS/gameinfo.html?ls=eref:google:1b:post

Most all our bigs shot poorly because of Drummond.  You could see guys looking for where he was when they shot instead of shooting their normal shot.

he may have been 1-9, but i'd be happier if he was 1-20.

Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 08:04:40 AM »

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His shot is so flat and he front rims everything, right now he can't hit a ft  :-X

Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2015, 08:34:42 AM »

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He's definitely lacking confidence scoring the basketball right now.  At least, he's playing really good defense. 

I trust he'll get in a groove offensively some time soon.

 ???

Several times I watched him lose his man and give them a wide-open shot. Actually, I believe the Prince dagger that either tied it up or made it close at the end of regulation was due to an Olynyk mistake losing his man.

I'm not saying he was perfect, but it's almost undeniable that overall he was a plus defensively in last night's game.  He made numerous good plays, and although I don't have specific numbers, I think it's safe to say that whenever he was on the court last night the Pistons had a tough time scoring.

Also, he was easily the Celtics best one on one defender vs. Andre Drummond last night. 

Yes, Kelly Olynyk had a very good defensive game last night.  I'm guessing that's why coach Stevens played him 29 minutes despite his continued offensive struggles. 
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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2015, 09:04:44 AM »

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Pressey and Olynyk play best together.

Yup, a great duo.

Reminds me of


Thank you. I said this when he was drafted. I'd keep Pressey over him, honestly. He is not a solidified NBA player, period.

And Pressey is?

Pressey's best asset to this team is warming up a seat on the bench for the guys who are coming in and out of ball games.

Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2015, 09:39:06 AM »

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I read these forums and wonder if I'm watching the same game others are.  All I've seen on these forums are posts about how bad Olynyk is on defense.  So he has his normal game except he gets two blocks from the weak side and now it's gone from complaining about his defense to his offense.

OK, he is in a shooting slump.  Probably from rust coming off the ankle injury, but putting that aside, he was pretty good on offense.  There is more to offense than your scoring.  Olynyk does all the little things that makes the offense easier for others.  If we'd shot better he could have had a few more assists but he got some guys wide open looks.  He also is setting good picks and hustling to keep offensive rebounds alive, but more importantly, he is still dragging his guy away from the basket.  Even though he isn't shooting well in this little stretch, his man who is usually a big, is still coming out to guard him which is a huge benefit for the team.

Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 09:46:14 AM »

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Olynyk  was a +13 tonight, and all people here do is complain.

He made two sensational blocks, had 9 rebounds and 5 assists, and Brad only played him 29 minutes.

TP. The guy found ways to contribute tonight even though his shot was not falling. There's a reason he's the team leader in +/- and it's no accident. Kelly is the epitome of a "win ugly" guy who does many little things that help the team. But because he's not flashy, some people here will never appreciate him.

Maybe he'll never be a starter, but there's definitely a large role available for him on this - or any other - team.
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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2015, 09:59:03 AM »

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I read these forums and wonder if I'm watching the same game others are.  All I've seen on these forums are posts about how bad Olynyk is on defense.  So he has his normal game except he gets two blocks from the weak side and now it's gone from complaining about his defense to his offense.

Criticisms of Olynyks D (rightly) go beyond an inability to block shots.
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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2015, 10:05:44 AM »

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Anyone else been looking for Datome to take some of KOs minutes?  He seems to make quicker decisions, and usually good ones.

Or is playing KO a development vs. Winning move?

Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2015, 10:25:14 AM »

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Kelly's defensive limitations are well documented, they're the same as when he was a college player.

Kelly's problems arise when he needs to get off the floor quickly without a running start, and when he needs lateral quickness. Of which he doesn't have.

For example, I've never seen Kelly take a JUMP shot, or jump hook, he's always flat footed on all his shots.

What's bothering so many, is this habit he has, the up-fake (that nobody is faked out by anymore), and then the turn down of the open shot, that he is very capable of making. Because being a stretch 4 is his NBA future. It show just how his confidence has evaporated. Kelly needs some new habits to develop for sure.

The coaching staff of the Celtics have to correct this, and fast.         

Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2015, 11:01:07 AM »

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Count me as one who's tired of all the threads complaining about Olynyk.

I know, I know, I don't have to read the threads, etc., blahblahblah. If people can moan and groan all day about Olynyk, I'm going to moan and groan about them.
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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2015, 11:06:36 AM »

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His shot is so flat and he front rims everything, right now he can't hit a ft

A sign of dead tired legs usually.  I think these guys are staying up watching college basketball, Stevens looked tired last game.  Hard not to root for your alma mater especially if you played for those guys.

Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2015, 11:23:20 AM »

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His shot is so flat and he front rims everything, right now he can't hit a ft

A sign of dead tired legs usually.  I think these guys are staying up watching college basketball, Stevens looked tired last game.  Hard not to root for your alma mater especially if you played for those guys.

Hard to "stay up" if you're on the typical NBA schedule of waking up in the afternoons, too.
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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2015, 11:27:44 AM »

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I think he's still not 100% after the ankle injury. He will hit his stride shooting the ball before the season is over. It's unfortunate that it's taking this long since we could have used his offense last night.
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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2015, 11:49:10 AM »

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I think he's still not 100% after the ankle injury. He will hit his stride shooting the ball before the season is over. It's unfortunate that it's taking this long since we could have used his offense last night.
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Re: Kelly No "O"lynyk
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2015, 11:52:05 AM »

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I read these forums and wonder if I'm watching the same game others are.  All I've seen on these forums are posts about how bad Olynyk is on defense.  So he has his normal game except he gets two blocks from the weak side and now it's gone from complaining about his defense to his offense.

Criticisms of Olynyks D (rightly) go beyond an inability to block shots.

Unfortunately, though, there hasn't been much evidence presented by those criticizing his D to counter the evidence presented by those pointing out that, despite looking goofy and awkward at times, the numbers show that Kelly's defense has been above average all season long. 
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SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson