If Bulls buyout Rose, would Danny take a gamble on him?

[Fafnir]

But he's a STAR!

[saltlover]

Bulls aren't buying out Rose for a couple of reasons.

1) Look at the history of that ownership & buyouts.  They're not buying Rose out with 2 years remaining after this season and $41 million left on his deal.  The idea of paying a guy to not be on their roster.  (You also can't compare this to the Boozer situation)

2) The hometown factor.  Rose is a local kid.  They're not going to force him out the door.

Those two things and 3) Why on earth should Derrick Rose give up money because he got hurt playing basketball?  This is precisely why players want their contracts guaranteed.  And the Bulls have sold so many Derrick Rose jerseys that they've already made the dollars, so no need to feel sorry for the even richer dudes.  Assuming they don't buy out his contract, they'll keep making those dollars.  His injuries haven't drained his popularity yet.

[hpantazo]

Well, you know a player is just about cooked when the Celticsblog threads don't say "since so and so is injured can the celtics trade for him" but instead say "would the celtics take a chance on him if he's bought out now that he's injured"

[Fred Roberts]

That MVP season, I can remember thinking, there's no way he can keep up this type of play. The amazing, daring, ridiculous drives to the basket and getting shots to go down. It was epic. But it was unsustainable. That type of play seemed like an injury waiting to happen. He'll never be that guy again.

That said, a meniscus tear is far from a career ender. This is an annoying bump in the road and a sign he may never regain reliable health. He'll be so much more timid forever, even if healthy.

[Monkhouse]

Ummm.. Roy had degenerative knees, which Bynum also had. Guess what? Both of them aren't in the NBA.

Rose may have a few major injuries, but a torn meniscus isn't going to force him to retire. Rose needs to realize now he has to change his game, and become a better shooter/defender/passer.

The type of circus layups, and twisting/turning into the lane days are over. Personally? Rose needs to stop thinking about what others think, because Rose seems like a humble and likable guy. I just hope he fixes areas that need work, and stop playing that fast up-tempo style he used in his younger days. Plus he isn't even in his prime, so why would he retire?

[hwangjini_1]

If Chicago buys out Rose, it's because Rose is retiring.

or very damaged goods. back to the initial post in this thread.

if rose can be the rose-of-old, then no way does he sign for anything less than elite/star money. and if he can play again at that level, chicago would never let him go.

personally, given the way he came back from the first injury, i doubt he returns this time.

[Monkhouse]

If Chicago buys out Rose, it's because Rose is retiring.

or very damaged goods. back to the initial post in this thread.

if rose can be the rose-of-old, then no way does he sign for anything less than elite/star money. and if he can play again at that level, chicago would never let him go.

personally, given the way he came back from the first injury, i doubt he returns this time.

Rose seems like the type of guy who feels bad about disappointing his fans, and hometown. But so what? This is your life. Sorry, but you gotta be selfish sometimes. If the Bulls want to move on from him, then fine, some other team will give him the opportunity to do so.

[Celtics4ever]

He is a pale shadow of himself.  I hope Ainge would not.  Sure he is still scoring and the like but he shoots 40%, it is like Iverson, which some people here would love, but it won't win you a title in the modern era.

[SHAQATTACK]

Danny is after a title rebuild .   Do that with young healthy players .  ......Rose doesn't fit yet.

If we had a title team assembled ready to compete ......yes if he was still play n and recovered , I would hire him as a back up to make a run at a title ...like Mavs did Rondo

He is a great floor general.   Can 't afford to stash him away at his present contract.

I think he would be a great 10 minute sub off the bench on a contender .....under the right limited role

You can 't offer him giant contracts at this point though.

[Fafnir]

Ummm.. Roy had degenerative knees, which Bynum also had. Guess what? Both of them aren't in the NBA.

You don't think he has degenerative knees? After this many knee injuries?

[Monkhouse]

Ummm.. Roy had degenerative knees, which Bynum also had. Guess what? Both of them aren't in the NBA.

You don't think he has degenerative knees? After this many knee injuries?

Well, until the medical doctors come out and say that, I'll just say Rose is a tad bit unlucky, and unable to adapt his playing style.

[moiso]

Ummm.. Roy had degenerative knees, which Bynum also had. Guess what? Both of them aren't in the NBA.

You don't think he has degenerative knees? After this many knee injuries?

I don't  think so.  No bone on bone type thing.  No microfracture surgery.

Rose is definitely not worth building a team around.  Some contender could take a chance on him if he gets bought out, but that's about it.  He's not really an above average starting point guard anymore.  Not a good shooter or passer.  He's all about the explosiveness.

[Moranis]

- Would you trade for him if he isn't bought out ?

Under no circumstances.

If he was bought out, sure, he's worth a short-term MLE-level contract, with the hope that he outperforms that substantially.  I don't think that the Bulls will let him walk, though.

I'm not sure I wouldn't.  20 million next year, 21 million in 16/17.  So big but not horrible.  Say you can trade Wallace and Bradley for Rose and McDermott this summer.  Would you not consider it, especially if can't land any free agents?

If there was a chance of him being MVP caliber again, perhaps.  But realistically, that's an unrealistic expectation, isn't it?  I'm not even sure that he's a top-10 point guard any more.

he probably isn't, but he certainly could be as good as Bradley and it is just a two year commitment to figure it out.

Trading Bradley to take on a $20 million player who might be as good as Bradley seems like a bad risk to me.

Bradley has extra years so you get out of that contract faster and in my proposal you also get McDermott who I happen to like. 

[Jonny CC]

No thanks.  Bill Walton is healthier. 

[Onslaught]

YES!!!!


But only if we can get Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway and Greg Oden too.