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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2460 on: August 12, 2015, 08:31:42 PM »

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that isn't really that odd
These are middle-aged men referring to each other as "dorito dink". Expect anything.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2461 on: August 12, 2015, 09:02:20 PM »

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that isn't really that odd
These are middle-aged men referring to each other as "dorito dink". Expect anything.

  Yeah, everything about the "text-gate" portion of deflate-gate is that odd, from the texts between those two goons to Brady's 100 or so texts a day on his phone.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2462 on: August 12, 2015, 09:22:36 PM »

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McCann said his sources are telling him Berman will absolutely vacate the suspension
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2463 on: August 12, 2015, 09:27:29 PM »

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McCann said his sources are telling him Berman will absolutely vacate the suspension

Well, in context, it's:

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Alan Milstein, who's litigated against NFL and tried cases before Judge Berman, told me: “Berman will absolutely vacate Brady's suspension.”

I don't see that as anything more than guesswork.


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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2464 on: August 12, 2015, 09:36:02 PM »

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McCann said his sources are telling him Berman will absolutely vacate the suspension

Well, in context, it's:

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Alan Milstein, who's litigated against NFL and tried cases before Judge Berman, told me: “Berman will absolutely vacate Brady's suspension.”

I don't see that as anything more than guesswork.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2465 on: August 12, 2015, 10:26:32 PM »

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Interesting argument by Kessler: ""Even the NFL...does not try to contend any player can be disciplined for being aware of someone else’s conduct."

That might pull the rug out on all of this: does this mean that the NFL can now go after any player who was "generally aware" that their teammate was using steroids or stickum on his gloves?

Yes of course. Because such things violate the integrity of the shield. Nothing matters more.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2466 on: August 12, 2015, 10:32:18 PM »

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So then why was it implied there was a reward for the ballboy who did end up being rewarded after the game?

It's hard to believe it was a random gift with all the other suspicious texts and activities going on.

Except that it's established that Brady does that sort of thing all of the time.  Unless you think he's bribing everybody in the workplace with gifts and autographs.


I think it's entirely possible Brady was in on this, though again, I think it's silly to make any sort of deal out of it because I think the majority of QBs in the league are involved in such things.

The point is, though, that the evidence doesn't really establish what the NFL claims it does.  The evidence they've presented has many plausible explanations, one of which is that Brady was involved in a conspiracy to deflate game balls.
I agree that other teams are most likely cheating and that the NFL probably didnt have the direct evidence to suspend Brady.

It's probably unfair that this happened to Brady but when you break the rules, these things can happen.

Still hoping he gets 0 games and shuts everyone up this year with his play.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2467 on: August 12, 2015, 10:35:32 PM »

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McCann said his sources are telling him Berman will absolutely vacate the suspension

Would be a first that a Federal Judge is leaking his decision to the press.  I highly doubt that.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2468 on: August 12, 2015, 10:37:07 PM »

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The real solution to this insanity would be just to make a rule that says each team can do whatever it wants with its own balls. Rodgers likes them overinflated, Brady likes them the opposite. Just remove that rule, and the problem goes away.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2469 on: August 12, 2015, 11:22:18 PM »

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The real solution to this insanity would be just to make a rule that says each team can do whatever it wants with its own balls. Rodgers likes them overinflated, Brady likes them the opposite. Just remove that rule, and the problem goes away.

Hear, hear. This rule never should've existed.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2470 on: August 12, 2015, 11:46:23 PM »

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McCann said his sources are telling him Berman will absolutely vacate the suspension

Well, in context, it's:

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Alan Milstein, who's litigated against NFL and tried cases before Judge Berman, told me: “Berman will absolutely vacate Brady's suspension.”

I don't see that as anything more than guesswork.


It's educated guesswork based on practicing before the same judge and litigating against the NFL.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2471 on: August 13, 2015, 12:12:27 AM »

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So then why was it implied there was a reward for the ballboy who did end up being rewarded after the game?

It's hard to believe it was a random gift with all the other suspicious texts and activities going on.

Except that it's established that Brady does that sort of thing all of the time.  Unless you think he's bribing everybody in the workplace with gifts and autographs.


I think it's entirely possible Brady was in on this, though again, I think it's silly to make any sort of deal out of it because I think the majority of QBs in the league are involved in such things.

The point is, though, that the evidence doesn't really establish what the NFL claims it does.  The evidence they've presented has many plausible explanations, one of which is that Brady was involved in a conspiracy to deflate game balls.

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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2472 on: August 13, 2015, 01:50:16 AM »

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Steven Brown nydaily news reporter somehow snuck a phone in and live tweeted everything in the courtroom. What a hero.

Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2473 on: August 13, 2015, 02:13:03 AM »

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Steven Brown nydaily news reporter somehow snuck a phone in and live tweeted everything in the courtroom. What a hero.

He was tweeting from the press box.  He's a federal court reporter.
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Re: #DeflateGate
« Reply #2474 on: August 13, 2015, 02:23:31 AM »

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So it's completely legit? On the radio they made it seem like he wasn't supposed to be. Oh well.