#DeflateGate (Court of Appeals Reinstates Suspension)

[JSD]

Goodell is a joke. This is so far over the top.

[Donoghus]

Wow.

Now the real soap opera starts.....appeals.

[D.o.s.]

4 games

1st round pick in upcoming draft

4th round pick in following draft

$1 million dollars


That's getting appealed.

The 1st round pick in addition to the suspension is a joke.



My guess, it gets appealed down to 2 games and the loss of the 1st round pick gets reduced to a second.

The pick bothers me more than the suspension.  This is a bigger loss in terms of draft picks than what the Saints suffered.

That's ridiculous.  4th Rounder?  Sure.  $1 million?  Why not.  4 games?  Way too much, but we'll live.  1st Rounder?  lol NOPE.

Screw the NFL, all they're doing is trying to get back on the public's good side after they royally screwed up the Ray Rice case, and the saddest part is that they're succeeding.

You think they're succeeding? I would posit the opposite.

[PhoSita]

Congrats to the league, because they ensured they'll stay in the news with this story all summer long because the Pats are going to have to appeal this and fight an extended media war over it.

Guess no publicity is bad publicity.

[Moranis]

Given the hit on the Patriots, I think the 4 games is fine.  As I said I was expecting an 8 game suspension for Brady, but I wasn't expecting nearly as harsh a penalty on the team. 

I don't think anything gets reduced. 

[Donoghus]

4 games

1st round pick in upcoming draft

4th round pick in following draft

$1 million dollars


That's getting appealed.

The 1st round pick in addition to the suspension is a joke.



My guess, it gets appealed down to 2 games and the loss of the 1st round pick gets reduced to a second.

The pick bothers me more than the suspension.  This is a bigger loss in terms of draft picks than what the Saints suffered.

That's ridiculous.  4th Rounder?  Sure.  $1 million?  Why not.  4 games?  Way too much, but we'll live.  1st Rounder?  lol NOPE.

Screw the NFL, all they're doing is trying to get back on the public's good side after they royally screwed up the Ray Rice case, and the saddest part is that they're succeeding.

You think they're succeeding? I would posit the opposite.

This just reinforces my idea that this league office is a joke.  They are absolutely ALL OVER THE PLACE with these punishments

[PhoSita]

Given the hit on the Patriots, I think the 4 games is fine.  As I said I was expecting an 8 game suspension for Brady, but I wasn't expecting nearly as harsh a penalty on the team. 

I don't think anything gets reduced.

There's no way an independent arbitrator upholds 4 games given the flimsy nature of the report.

Supposedly Kraft won't appeal the fine / picks, but we'll see if that stands given how draconian the penalty is.


I guess on the flip side of this, Bill often blows his first round picks, which typically end up at the end of the first round.  Even with Brady missing a couple of games, that pick should still be in the 20s.

[Moranis]

4 games

1st round pick in upcoming draft

4th round pick in following draft

$1 million dollars


That's getting appealed.

The 1st round pick in addition to the suspension is a joke.



My guess, it gets appealed down to 2 games and the loss of the 1st round pick gets reduced to a second.

The pick bothers me more than the suspension.  This is a bigger loss in terms of draft picks than what the Saints suffered.

That's ridiculous.  4th Rounder?  Sure.  $1 million?  Why not.  4 games?  Way too much, but we'll live.  1st Rounder?  lol NOPE.

Screw the NFL, all they're doing is trying to get back on the public's good side after they royally screwed up the Ray Rice case, and the saddest part is that they're succeeding.

You think they're succeeding? I would posit the opposite.

This just reinforces my idea that this league office is a joke.  They are absolutely ALL OVER THE PLACE with these punishments

I'm of the belief that off the field issues that have no effect on the game should be punished far less harshly then things that actually effect the game.  In fact, I wouldn't suspend any player for arrests, but that is just me.

[mahonedog88]

Just heard that I guess Troy Vincent sent a letter to Brady explaining that the majority of his 4 game suspension is because he didn't fully cooperate with the investigation, not because of the actual infraction

[BitterJim]

4 games

1st round pick in upcoming draft

4th round pick in following draft

$1 million dollars


That's getting appealed.

The 1st round pick in addition to the suspension is a joke.



My guess, it gets appealed down to 2 games and the loss of the 1st round pick gets reduced to a second.

The pick bothers me more than the suspension.  This is a bigger loss in terms of draft picks than what the Saints suffered.

That's ridiculous.  4th Rounder?  Sure.  $1 million?  Why not.  4 games?  Way too much, but we'll live.  1st Rounder?  lol NOPE.

Screw the NFL, all they're doing is trying to get back on the public's good side after they royally screwed up the Ray Rice case, and the saddest part is that they're succeeding.

You think they're succeeding? I would posit the opposite.

Given the fact that this fiasco is completely overshadowing the Dez Bryant case, and that people suddenly trust a report that says something *probably* happened despite not believing a report earlier this year that the league office definitely didn't see the Ray Rice tape beforehand, yes

[Moranis]

Given the hit on the Patriots, I think the 4 games is fine.  As I said I was expecting an 8 game suspension for Brady, but I wasn't expecting nearly as harsh a penalty on the team. 

I don't think anything gets reduced.

There's no way an independent arbitrator upholds 4 games given the flimsy nature of the report.

Supposedly Kraft won't appeal the fine / picks, but we'll see if that stands given how draconian the penalty is.


I guess on the flip side of this, Bill often blows his first round picks, which typically end up at the end of the first round.  Even with Brady missing a couple of games, that pick should still be in the 20s.

from Andrew Brandt

To Brady: "..your failure to cooperate, refusing to produce any relevant electronic evidence despite being offered extraordinary safeguards

The failure to cooperate is the big one that is why I don't think it gets overturned.

[Donoghus]

4 games

1st round pick in upcoming draft

4th round pick in following draft

$1 million dollars


That's getting appealed.

The 1st round pick in addition to the suspension is a joke.



My guess, it gets appealed down to 2 games and the loss of the 1st round pick gets reduced to a second.

The pick bothers me more than the suspension.  This is a bigger loss in terms of draft picks than what the Saints suffered.

That's ridiculous.  4th Rounder?  Sure.  $1 million?  Why not.  4 games?  Way too much, but we'll live.  1st Rounder?  lol NOPE.

Screw the NFL, all they're doing is trying to get back on the public's good side after they royally screwed up the Ray Rice case, and the saddest part is that they're succeeding.

You think they're succeeding? I would posit the opposite.

This just reinforces my idea that this league office is a joke.  They are absolutely ALL OVER THE PLACE with these punishments

I'm of the belief that off the field issues that have no effect on the game should be punished far less harshly then things that actually effect the game.  In fact, I wouldn't suspend any player for arrests, but that is just me.

Yeah, I know.  We saw how you were with Ray Rice. 

[D.o.s.]

-I think/know most people who aren't fans of the NFL think the league office is a joke anyway. I'm sure it's distressing to them that the fans are starting to feel the same way, but they're going about it in the wrong way (because they're morons).


Moranis: You weren't actually expecting 8 games unless you weren't thinking about the Rice thing. Someone in that iron bunker would say "we can't suspend him for that long, they'll have a field day with us."

I still think This will get appealed down, if only so the other owners don't have to deal with it.

Just heard that I guess Troy Vincent sent a letter to Brady explaining that the majority of his 4 game suspension is because he didn't fully cooperate with the investigation, not because of the actual infraction

Obviously. The crime was never the issue: it was the perceived flaunting of the Ginger Hammer. TP for calling the punishment, though.

@Jim, fair point.

[Moranis]

4 games

1st round pick in upcoming draft

4th round pick in following draft

$1 million dollars


That's getting appealed.

The 1st round pick in addition to the suspension is a joke.



My guess, it gets appealed down to 2 games and the loss of the 1st round pick gets reduced to a second.

The pick bothers me more than the suspension.  This is a bigger loss in terms of draft picks than what the Saints suffered.

That's ridiculous.  4th Rounder?  Sure.  $1 million?  Why not.  4 games?  Way too much, but we'll live.  1st Rounder?  lol NOPE.

Screw the NFL, all they're doing is trying to get back on the public's good side after they royally screwed up the Ray Rice case, and the saddest part is that they're succeeding.

You think they're succeeding? I would posit the opposite.

This just reinforces my idea that this league office is a joke.  They are absolutely ALL OVER THE PLACE with these punishments

I'm of the belief that off the field issues that have no effect on the game should be punished far less harshly then things that actually effect the game.  In fact, I wouldn't suspend any player for arrests, but that is just me.

Yeah, I know.  We saw how you were with Ray Rice.

I'm that way with all of the off field stuff.  Didn't think Peterson should have been suspended or Hardy or any of the guys.

[Finkelskyhook]

All that based on a hunch? 

Imagine what would've happened  it was based on facts.