#DeflateGate (Court of Appeals Reinstates Suspension)

[fairweatherfan]

Venting:

I'm so angry about all this. I was looking forward to talk about what this game means to Bill and Tom's legacy, recapping the AFC championship, previewing the Super Bowl... Instead it's all about this nonsense. A sensational, blood thirsty media lead by the absolutely shameless ESPN. Can anyone there even call themselves "journalists" or "reporters" anymore? Because it is false advertising. They are click-bait, ratings hungry, entertainers.

Not being snarky, but what's stopping you?  You don't have to talk about what ESPN's talking about.

[Rondo2287]

I viewed the Brady presser performance, and it was excruciating to see someone lie in such an obvious manner.  There is a lot of venting going on here by (mostly) diehard Patriots fans, but even Kraft's own guy, Goodell, is going to have to bring the hammer down on the Pats in the form of rescinding of draft picks. 

Tom Brady must be the world's worst poker player - can anyone get me an invite to his home game? :-)

Yeah, you could see the corners of his mouth curl up whenever he told an especially big one.

Actually not true, per most post earlier my wife watched the press conference with three trained FBI investigators, they all said no signs of lying based on their training. 

[Rondo2287]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/22/nfl-investigators-have-visited-browns-over-in-game-texting/

When is the national media going to descend on Cleveland over text-gate?  oh wait, there not because the entire league is jealous of them?  hmmm

[Roy H.]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/22/nfl-investigators-have-visited-browns-over-in-game-texting/

When is the national media going to descend on Cleveland over text-gate?  oh wait, there not because the entire league is jealous of them?  hmmm

If the Browns were in the Super Bowl, I'm sure the media would be all over them, although maybe not to this extent.  Similarly, if the Pats had lost last week, the media scrutiny would be less, although I'm sure there would be some due to Spygate, etc.

[wdleehi]

I must admit, that was one of the funnier press conferences I have listened to.  Completely pointless, but funny.



Got to love the headlines though.

[D.o.s.]

reggie miller and grant hill were talking tonight on TNT about how they used to deflate basketballs before NBA games. marv albert said doc rivers admitted to him to doing the same thing while playing for the hawks.
this whole controversy is a giant joke, and is only important to small-minded football fans who hate the patriots and really have no clue about the sort of things that really go on in sports.
this isn't about honestly, the "integrity of the game", or cheating.
it's a witch hunt by armchair moralists who don't realize that athletes are obsessive and make minor adjustments to equipment when they're technically not supposed to.
it's not a big deal.
and anybody who thinks BB and TFB are the antichrist should not be a celtics fan, red auerbach was 100x worse.

It would appear to be pretty important to the small-minded Patriots fans with persecution complexes, too.

[Rondo2287]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/22/nfl-investigators-have-visited-browns-over-in-game-texting/

When is the national media going to descend on Cleveland over text-gate?  oh wait, there not because the entire league is jealous of them?  hmmm

If the Browns were in the Super Bowl, I'm sure the media would be all over them, although maybe not to this extent.  Similarly, if the Pats had lost last week, the media scrutiny would be less, although I'm sure there would be some due to Spygate, etc.

Right, so this is much more about being a good team than the actual infringement of the rules

[Rondo2287]

Also Roy, not sure if this has been posted yet, but a NON patriots source on ball firmness 

The MMQB @theMMQB 
  ·  17h 17 hours ago   
Again, from our informal test, diff between 12.5 and 10.5 psi is practically imperceptible. 10.5 definitely not soft.

[D.o.s.]

Also Roy, not sure if this has been posted yet, but a NON patriots source on ball firmness 

The MMQB @theMMQB 
  ·  17h 17 hours ago   
Again, from our informal test, diff between 12.5 and 10.5 psi is practically imperceptible. 10.5 definitely not soft.

That's Peter King trying to help the NFL make a non-issue out of it now that it's Friday. 

[Rondo2287]

Also for what its worth, this guy does some of the best draft analysis not working for ESPN or a major network, he has been at the senior bowl all week

Mike Loyko ?@NEPD_Loyko  · 8m8 minutes ago  ? Mobile, AL   
Mark Brunell's segment just came on TV and about 20 scouts including NE laughing out loud and making fun of him for crying.

[Rondo2287]

Finally, just to throw it out there.  Guy has 105K followers so maybe he knows something?

Sharks of Vegas @SharksOfVegas 
  ·  10h 10 hours ago   
BREAKING - Our source has CONFIRMED there will be NO penalties imposed on the Patriots by the NFL in the wake of deflategate.

Sharks of Vegas @SharksOfVegas 
  ·  10h 10 hours ago   
Official announcement is expected sometime over the weekend.  NFL simply has no "proof" the Patriots themselves tampered with the balls.

Sharks of Vegas @SharksOfVegas 
  ·  10h 10 hours ago   
NFL is not saying the balls were not tampered with, just that there is very little evidence against the Patriots.

Sharks of Vegas @SharksOfVegas 
  ·  1h 1 hour ago   
At this point, the NFL is delaying action in hopes of more information.  They can't punish the Patriots with current info.

[Roy H.]

Also Roy, not sure if this has been posted yet, but a NON patriots source on ball firmness 

The MMQB @theMMQB 
  ·  17h 17 hours ago   
Again, from our informal test, diff between 12.5 and 10.5 psi is practically imperceptible. 10.5 definitely not soft.

"Practically imperceptible" and "imperceptible" aren't equivalent.

Similarly, "not soft" doesn't equal "not softer".

[Rondo2287]

Also Roy, not sure if this has been posted yet, but a NON patriots source on ball firmness 

The MMQB @theMMQB 
  ·  17h 17 hours ago   
Again, from our informal test, diff between 12.5 and 10.5 psi is practically imperceptible. 10.5 definitely not soft.

"Practically imperceptible" and "imperceptible" aren't equivalent.

Similarly, "not soft" doesn't equal "not softer".

haha ok.  I mean I guess to me, if a guy who is only trying to tell the difference between a 12.5 and 10.5 psi ball thinks its practically imperceptible, it would be imperceptible for a guy who is trying to throw the ball with linemen bearing down on him or trying to catch a ball while protecting himself from impending doom from a safety. 

[Roy H.]

Also Roy, not sure if this has been posted yet, but a NON patriots source on ball firmness 

The MMQB @theMMQB 
  ·  17h 17 hours ago   
Again, from our informal test, diff between 12.5 and 10.5 psi is practically imperceptible. 10.5 definitely not soft.

"Practically imperceptible" and "imperceptible" aren't equivalent.

Similarly, "not soft" doesn't equal "not softer".

haha ok.  I mean I guess to me, if a guy who is only trying to tell the difference between a 12.5 and 10.5 psi ball thinks its practically imperceptible, it would be imperceptible for a guy who is trying to throw the ball with linemen bearing down on him or trying to catch a ball while protecting himself from impending doom from a safety.

Again, Brady himself acknowledged that he likes a 12.5 ball -- rather than 13.5 -- because of the grip.

How can anybody then argue that he can't tell the difference between a 12.5 ball and a 10.5 ball? 

If Peter King could detect a difference (which he did), then why wouldn't the guy who meticulously selected the game balls earlier that day be able to tell?

Pats fans need to make up their minds:  is this a case of "everyone is looking for an edge, and QBs do this all the time, so it's no big deal" or is it "Tom Brady, Golden Boy, would never bend the rules or lie to the media"?

[Rondo2287]

Jemele Hill @jemelehill 
  ·  16h 16 hours ago   
Ironic: Every week, fans complain about how incompetent the officials are. Now suddenly they're incapable of making mistakes. OK.

Jemele Hill @jemelehill 
  ·  17h 17 hours ago   
Seriously ... Has anyone considered the fact that MAYBE the official who measured the footballs didn't do his job properly?