Sheridan: Thibodeau on hot seat as Bulls crumbling internally

[hpantazo]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/01/20/sheridan-thibodeau-on-hot-seat-as-bulls-crumbling-internally/

If Stevens decides that IU may be more attractive than rebuilding...

Why would he choose to coach Indiana when he's coaching the Boston Celtics?  This argument has never made sense to me.

Stevens is also under contract for a number of years, so unless we fire him he can't exactly choose to take coaching jobs wherever he wants.

This argument is suspect. Contracts are broken every day, both in sports, and in other business arenas. Case in point--Doc Rivers.

We got compensation for Rivers though, a 1st round pick. What compensation could we possibly get from a college team? Nothing. Stevens would have to forfeit a ton of guaranteed money at the very least to be allowed to leave.

[PickNRoll]

Has there been talk about Stevens and IU?  What am I missing?

[jpotter33]

I never would've believed this headline, but when you read the actual article it makes a ton of sense. There have been several times when the players themselves have said publicly he needs to tone it down a bit and let them rest. Maybe it's no coincidence that they've been hit with the injury bug so much the last few years.


I think Thibs is best served as the lead assistant/head defensive coach for a team. If he could go back to accepting an assistant role, I would love to see him be the lead assistant and defensive architect for Brad. He could crack the whip on the younger, softer guys, I'm looking at you KO, while not being as intimidating as a head coach. It'd be an interesting dynamic for sure.

[jpotter33]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/01/20/sheridan-thibodeau-on-hot-seat-as-bulls-crumbling-internally/

If Stevens decides that IU may be more attractive than rebuilding...

Why would he choose to coach Indiana when he's coaching the Boston Celtics?  This argument has never made sense to me.

Stevens is also under contract for a number of years, so unless we fire him he can't exactly choose to take coaching jobs wherever he wants.

This argument is suspect. Contracts are broken every day, both in sports, and in other business arenas. Case in point--Doc Rivers.

We got compensation for Rivers though, a 1st round pick. What compensation could we possibly get from a college team? Nothing. Stevens would have to forfeit a ton of guaranteed money at the very least to be allowed to leave.

Exactly. If there's one thing we've learned about Danny lately it's that he's a businessman first. Danny and Doc were close, but he still didn't let him leave without getting compensation first. I don't see Danny letting Brad out of four years of contract for nothing, and even if they did compensate Danny, what could they possibly give him to entice such a release?

Besides, this is now Brad's team. Next season the whole roster will basically be guys we got under Brad's tenure, and with our flexibility Brad will have a much larger say in what kind of guys to bring in. Basically, the hard part is done after this year, and next year we can really start building up to Brad's system and strengths.

[GzUP617]

  Can't say I'm surprised.  I have been predicting this since Ron Adams was fired from the Bulls.

[wdleehi]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/01/20/sheridan-thibodeau-on-hot-seat-as-bulls-crumbling-internally/

If Stevens decides that IU may be more attractive than rebuilding...

Why would he choose to coach Indiana when he's coaching the Boston Celtics?  This argument has never made sense to me.

Stevens is also under contract for a number of years, so unless we fire him he can't exactly choose to take coaching jobs wherever he wants.

This argument is suspect. Contracts are broken every day, both in sports, and in other business arenas. Case in point--Doc Rivers.

We got compensation for Rivers though, a 1st round pick. What compensation could we possibly get from a college team? Nothing. Stevens would have to forfeit a ton of guaranteed money at the very least to be allowed to leave.

Would the Bulls want compensation for Thibodeau?

[The One]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/01/20/sheridan-thibodeau-on-hot-seat-as-bulls-crumbling-internally/

If Stevens decides that IU may be more attractive than rebuilding...

Why would he choose to coach Indiana when he's coaching the Boston Celtics?  This argument has never made sense to me.

More security...more control...easier workload.

[The One]

I'm not sure how good Thibodeau will be with a young team. He's never struck me as a player development coach.

Butler has developed pretty well...does Thibs get ANY of that credit?

[gift]

I don't think Stevens would leave by his own choosing to go to another college team. One of the reasons he was ok with leaving Butler was because it was for the pros and he wouldn't have to coach against his old team. He credits Butler with basically giving him his career.

If he coaches another college team it won't be soon.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not sure how good Thibodeau will be with a young team. He's never struck me as a player development coach.

Butler has developed pretty well...does Thibs get ANY of that credit?

I meant a whole young team, not one young player. I feel there is a difference when there is one young player inserted in a core of Rose, Noah, and Gasol/Boozer. And it's completely different with a team where the oldest starter is a 26 journeyman type.

[RJ87]

I'm not sure how good Thibodeau will be with a young team. He's never struck me as a player development coach.

Butler has developed pretty well...does Thibs get ANY of that credit?

I meant a whole young team, not one young player. I feel there is a difference when there is one young player inserted in a core of Rose, Noah, and Gasol/Boozer. And it's completely different with a team where the oldest starter is a 26 journeyman type.

He's been in Chicago for almost five years. He got there before Derrick was MVP, before Noah was DPOY caliber. He helped develop Taj Gibson and Omer Asik.

I definitely think he deserves credit for his player development.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not sure how good Thibodeau will be with a young team. He's never struck me as a player development coach.

Butler has developed pretty well...does Thibs get ANY of that credit?

I meant a whole young team, not one young player. I feel there is a difference when there is one young player inserted in a core of Rose, Noah, and Gasol/Boozer. And it's completely different with a team where the oldest starter is a 26 journeyman type.

He's been in Chicago for almost five years. He got there before Derrick was MVP, before Noah was DPOY caliber. He helped develop Taj Gibson and Omer Asik.

I definitely think he deserves credit for his player development.

Asik and Gibson were both 24-year-old rookies, that's not particularly young. Also, their careers have mostly been flat lines (on per-minute production basis), especially Gibson's.

[Celtics4ever]

I have always seen him as defensive specialist and that is it.  X's and O's are not his thing.

[SHAQATTACK]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/01/20/sheridan-thibodeau-on-hot-seat-as-bulls-crumbling-internally/

If Stevens decides that IU may be more attractive than rebuilding...

Funny how a team that's "crumbling internally" looked pretty good in whooping Boston.

An't that the truth !  TP!



I think KO needs a harder coach .   So he'll play like a man .   Sully might need a little motivation too , to keep the motor running.

[Hawkeye199]

He fingers crossed if the bulls are falling apart would jimmy butler look to go elsewhere