It's time to start Smart over Bradley

[brandonmm94]

Start Marcus Thornton, and Smart..It gets Smart more experience and makes Thornton's value go up if he remains consistent. Make Bradley earn a spot, and id say have Turner and Crowder battle it out at the 3.

[D Dub]

Evan Turner, Marcus Smart and Jae Crowder would be the worst jump-shooting starting perimeter combination in the league.

Throw in Zeller who refuses to shoot outside of 7 feet and you have only Sully as the only average to above average shooter in the starting lineup.

Who, as usual, spot on.  TP

But I do think Smart should start-- just over Turner instead. 

It seems many on this board want to see Marcus play more shooting guard, which I think is a mistake.  He is ceiling is highest as pg, and I'd also reckon CBS is developing him as such.

With a Bradley/Smart backcourt you can let AB play to his strengths off the ball on O while switching Marcus onto bigger guards defensively. 

But that's a competitive strategy, so my point is already moot... 
More likely we continue Turner's restoration so he can be flipped for a profit. 

[CFAN38]

All that matters is that Smart is getting near 30mpg doesn't matter if he starts or comes off the bench.

[kozlodoev]

But I do think Smart should start-- just over Turner instead.

Over Crowder. Turner should look better when he's not trying to dribble around PGs all the time. I love Crowder, but the team is not served best by having him as a starter right now.

[PickNRoll]

But I do think Smart should start-- just over Turner instead.

Over Crowder. Turner should look better when he's not trying to dribble around PGs all the time. I love Crowder, but the team is not served best by having him as a starter right now.

He looks good shooting over them though.  I don't know if he shows any advantage at 2 or 3.

[kozlodoev]

But I do think Smart should start-- just over Turner instead.

Over Crowder. Turner should look better when he's not trying to dribble around PGs all the time. I love Crowder, but the team is not served best by having him as a starter right now.

He looks good shooting over them though.  I don't know if he shows any advantage at 2 or 3.

Maybe, but it hasn't translated in good scoring. And he made the most damage in Philly playing as a SF with James Anderson and MCW at the two guards spots.

[PickNRoll]

But I do think Smart should start-- just over Turner instead.

Over Crowder. Turner should look better when he's not trying to dribble around PGs all the time. I love Crowder, but the team is not served best by having him as a starter right now.

He looks good shooting over them though.  I don't know if he shows any advantage at 2 or 3.

Maybe, but it hasn't translated in good scoring. And he made the most damage in Philly playing as a SF with James Anderson and MCW at the two guards spots.

He's taking fewer shots, but shooting a decent percentage.  I'd like to see that FTA number creep back up.

[KeepRondo]

If Smart keeps getting around 30 minutes then I'm fine with it for now.

I also prefer when Smart gets minutes without Turner in the game. So either way, as long as Smart gets enough minutes as the primary ball handler.

[D.o.s.]

I don't think the numbers support Turner being a bad shooter.

Maybe because you haven't looked at the numbers?
http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1066/evan-turner/shotchart/

It's all relative, I guess.

Russell Westbrook is also a bad shooter. The sun rises in the east. What's your point? You're not going to try and argue that Westbrook is a worse scorer than Turner, are you?

[Celtics4ever]

Have to play Bradley to keep his value up folks.  Move Turner to SF, Marcus to PG

[PickNRoll]

I don't think the numbers support Turner being a bad shooter.

Maybe because you haven't looked at the numbers?
http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1066/evan-turner/shotchart/

It's all relative, I guess.

Russell Westbrook is also a bad shooter. The sun rises in the east. What's your point? You're not going to try and argue that Westbrook is a worse scorer than Turner, are you?

I don't think the numbers support Turner being a bad shooter.

He's shooting 44% and 35% from 3.  He's not a great shooter.  He's not a bad shooter.  Rondo is a bad shooter.

[D.o.s.]

If you want to split hairs like that, I'd say Rondo is a terrible shooter, while Turner is simply a bad one.

That said, Turner is not a good shooter, either way.

[jpotter33]

I don't think the numbers support Turner being a bad shooter.

Maybe because you haven't looked at the numbers?
http://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1066/evan-turner/shotchart/

It's all relative, I guess.

Russell Westbrook is also a bad shooter. The sun rises in the east. What's your point? You're not going to try and argue that Westbrook is a worse scorer than Turner, are you?

I don't think the numbers support Turner being a bad shooter.

He's shooting 44% and 35% from 3.  He's not a great shooter.  He's not a bad shooter.  Rondo is a bad shooter.

I see what you mean. It seems that the standards of a "good shooter" are ridiculous in today's NBA, though it might end up being more of a Celticsblog thing. It's almost as if you're not shooting like a Korver, Allen, or Curry, you're not a good shooter.

I'm not sure where I stand on the spectrum of Turner's shooting, but to say Westbrook is a "bad shooter" is a little ridiculous.

[D.o.s.]

The NBA's leaguewide average is 45% from 2 and 35% from three. 75% from the line.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html

If you want to equivocate "average" to "good" that's your perogative, not mine. That said, that actually does Turner a bit of a favor, since his finishing ability makes up for his lackluster jump shooting (the same applies to Westbrook, actually).

[jpotter33]

The NBA's leaguewide average is 45% from 2 and 35% from three. 75% from the line.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html

If you want to equivocate "average" to "good" that's your perogative, not mine. That said, that actually does Turner a bit of a favor, since his finishing ability makes up for his lackluster jump shooting (the same applies to Westbrook, actually).

What are the conditions for this, though? Does Joe Blow shooting 3/4 on 3's over the season count him as a 75% 3 point shooter?

Also, the fg% isn't a good measure for a good shooter, because people like Tyson Chandler and Tyler Zeller, who only shoot within 4 feet of the basket, skew the ratings. A better ratings system would only account for shots within certain ranges, i.e. mid-range shots, etc.