Please Trade Sully!

[chambers]

Has not had a full offseason to cut, exercise and work out at 100% since the surgery- basically came straight into summer league.

Oh please stop it.

I think Sully will be a great player when he loses about 30+ lbs.

Fixed that for you.

I'm 100% serious. It's hard to do that cutting during the season without becoming exhausted in an 82 game schedule.
Don't know why that's so ridiculous lol

[Asher77]

In a complete rebuild like the Celtics have all guys are trade able unless they show on the court that they are beyond replacement.

And how is that different when you're NOT in a complete rebuild?

When you have a team that is winning you need to allow the chemistry to settle. You will never have 10 perfect players and there will always be warts.

Just like your friends in life the group will be a mixed bunch but the chemistry for them to go to war together will work and they will fight for each other.

Making too many trades upsets the locker room dynamic and effects morale. Just because you think a player on another team has a tad more talent than one on yours the net effect of the trade may be a negative in the win column.

In full rebuild mode you have no real team morale to worry about. Players are being judged more individually. As a core develops you will reach a balancing point where winning is on the horizon and chemistry and consistency of roster become more in focus.

So trade them while you can and hasten the day when we do settle on some consistency.

This doesn't make any sense. "Perfect" players do not exist -- and if your criterion for being "above replacement" is to be a perfect player, then your argument is dead at conception.

The truth is that every time teams could upgrade they would -- rebuilding or not. It's just that when you're not a rebuilding team, it is -- by definition -- harder to upgrade since you will supposedly have better players. That's why you'll see fewer trades. The rest is hogwash.

My original point was you are free in a rebuild scenario to make as many lateral moves as you feel like for on court talent if those trades help secure other assets like Cap Space/TPE/Picks. Dysfunction due to a changing roster is a given in this environment.

At some point your team needs stability and if it is winning you don't make trades unless it upgrades your play on the court a measurable amount.

This is a reason we were all so upset about the Perkins trade. We were not rebuilding but winning and Jeff Green did not increase the team play on the court or the chemistry enough to justify it despite it being in the best interest long term for the Celtics.

[crimson_stallion]

He will come in better shape next season.

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Good one!

[Hemingway]

I think we should look for deals. Sully is a deal not on a rookie contract but he could end up being overpaid on his next contract. Of our young guys he seems to have the least motivation and to me seems like the least likely guy to make a big step forward. 4s are easier to find than 5s and we already have an ok 5 in Zeller. It should be easier to upgrade Sully and keep Zeller than vice versa.

[LooseCannon]

He will come in better shape next season.

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Good one!

Round is a shape.

[jmen788]

I just want to clarify a few things:

I think we should trade him, but ONLY for the right return. A mid to late first rounder isn't enough for him. BUT if we could get a guy like McLemore from the Kings, that would be perfect. I would only do it for a young up and coming player at a position that is more difficult to fill (as PGs and PFs are a dime a dozen, and finding a great SG is VERY hard).