Austin Rivers

[Scintan]

Austin Rivers is garbage.  He's a salary dump here.  If he gets minutes, it's to help us lose games and improve lottery position.

Seriously, he's one of the worst guards in the NBA.

What is the downside though? Would you rather have seen Salmons on the court? Salmons is on the downside of his career, Rivers could potentially improve under a new system. The worst that could happen is he plays like garbage and we don't pick up his QO next year. That would leave us in the exact same place we would have been with Salmons. I don't see any downside.

He costs more money, which is more Wyc's issue than mine.

I'm just amused to see people suggesting he's a good player, or that he is worth a first rounder. That's just bizarre to me.  People should be realistic about how useless Rivers has been.

Teams don't decline the 4th year option on a lottery pick very frequently.  New Orleans must be thrilled to clear his salary.  We should be getting compensated by them for taking him on.

What's his contract , 2 million ?  Why are they thrilled about clearing that ?

Low risk contract to take on, IMO.  22 years of age.  Get a coach in there that knows how to put him in a position to succeed.  Still really only a Senior in college, if that.

Even billionaires don't like paying millions for trash.

do you dislike the Rivers family or something?

What does it have to do with the Rivers family.  You seem awfully defensive of the guy.

He's had years in the league and just doesn't look like a serviceable pro who can make a difference on a team. Why doe it have to do with anything else? I don't like gunners who shoot under 40%.

He's played 165 games, so "years" is technically correct but just barely.

I just don't understand the venom behind declaring a 22 year old garbage and reacting with disgust to him coming to Boston.

A.  He's certainly better than Salmons at this point for this team.
B.  He doesn't have a problematic salary.
C.  He might get better with CBS.

Mike

When did pointing out that a lousy player is lousy somehow morph into "venom"?  Was it at the exact moment that the word "Celtics" became attached?

Plenty of people have remarked on Rivers not being any good.  Only a few act like Rivers peed in their cornflakes.  Can you tell the difference between these two statements?

"Rivers sucks but he's still young and if he can't get better, it doesn't cost us anything."

"Rivers sucks and always will suck and there's no possible way he will ever do anything but suck and no one should ever suggest anything different."

Mike

Rivers sucks.  If he wasn't reportedly heading to the Celtics, this would be a non-issue.  Because he's reportedly heading to the Celtics, some overly wound fans are acting as if pointing out the blatantly obvious is somehow an indication of a vendetta.

[Roy H.]

More to Roy's point:

New Orleans changed course in 3-way trade talks, insisted on subbing Austin Rivers for John Salmons, sources said. Boston, Memphis relented.

Boston's on phones now, trying to find a deal to move on Austin Rivers, league sources tell Yahoo.

Ainge actually wanted Salmons more than Rivers.  And Rivers is only about $400,000 more expensive.  He doesn't think whatever potential Rivers has is worth even that minimal cost.

This is reassuring. 

[clover]

More to Roy's point:

New Orleans changed course in 3-way trade talks, insisted on subbing Austin Rivers for John Salmons, sources said. Boston, Memphis relented.

Boston's on phones now, trying to find a deal to move on Austin Rivers, league sources tell Yahoo.

Ainge actually wanted Salmons more than Rivers.  And Rivers is only about $400,000 more expensive.  He doesn't think whatever potential Rivers has is worth even that minimal cost.

This is reassuring.

Indeed.

[coco]

God no.  Not Austin Rivers.  He blows big time.  I can't stand his game.  Last time I watch him play he Dribbled too much.  Is he still trying to imitate notorious ballhogs like Kobe/MJ/Melo etc?


I can't see how he fits CBS ball movement style.  Maybe we can swing him to the Knicks for a pair of cool shades or something.  I heard they are looking for a ballhog now that Melo is injured and JR is out of town.

[Waew]

is austin going to be playing in 1 hour in toronto? did he catch a flight?

[piercetruth34]

He isn't coming here.  He is like Brandon Wright and just a piece to move.  He may not even come here at all.  We have bradley and young already which actually shows we do see potential in those guys.  Zeller, Crowder are the only 2 pieces we've acquired so far this season that have any value to us.  And our 2 picks Smart and Young.

[LarBrd33]

Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt  ?  9m 9 minutes ago

Looks like Austin Rivers will be sent to Clippers, I'm hearing.

Lol

[Waew]

Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt  ?  9m 9 minutes ago

Looks like Austin Rivers will be sent to Clippers, I'm hearing.

Lol

would make sense. Doc is the clippers gm i believe. next up, austin rivers signs max contract with clippers.

[LarBrd33]

Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt  ?  9m 9 minutes ago

Looks like Austin Rivers will be sent to Clippers, I'm hearing.

Lol

What do you think that conversation goes like?

Danny:  "Hey Doc, it's Danny.  I'll trade you your son for a 1st rounder"

Doc:  "No way!"

Danny:  "Oh... hold on... let me patch in Austin.  Austin you there?"

Austin:  "Hi Danny, what's up?"

Danny: "Got your pop on the phone... he was just about to tell us how much you were worth... Doc, you were saying?"

Doc:  "Oh... uh... umm... Hey sport!  Was uh... just telling Danny how much we wanted you in Los Angeles!"

Danny: "Hey Doc, hold that thought.  We got Mrs. Rivers on the phone.   Hey Kristen, what's up?  How's LA treating you?"

Kristen Rivers: "Hey Danny!  LA is great!  Thanks for trading us here.  How are you?"

Danny: "We have Doc and Austin on the call.  Doc was just about to tell us how much he's willing to give up for your boy.   What's up, Doc?"

Doc:  *mumbles* "Freakin Ainge"

[Nerf DPOY]

7 pages and counting for what to do with Austin Rivers. Impressive.

[Endless Paradise]

OH GOD, THIS STORY GETS RICHER AND RICHER BY THE MINUTE, HAHAHAHAHA:

Clippers likely think they can finally do the Jamal Crawford trade after getting Austin Rivers.

[Nerf DPOY]

OH GOD, THIS STORY GETS RICHER AND RICHER BY THE MINUTE, HAHAHAHAHA:

Clippers likely think they can finally do the Jamal Crawford trade after getting Austin Rivers.

This is great for us. There's still 45 games left in this season.

[MBunge]

Austin Rivers is garbage.  He's a salary dump here.  If he gets minutes, it's to help us lose games and improve lottery position.

Seriously, he's one of the worst guards in the NBA.

What is the downside though? Would you rather have seen Salmons on the court? Salmons is on the downside of his career, Rivers could potentially improve under a new system. The worst that could happen is he plays like garbage and we don't pick up his QO next year. That would leave us in the exact same place we would have been with Salmons. I don't see any downside.

He costs more money, which is more Wyc's issue than mine.

I'm just amused to see people suggesting he's a good player, or that he is worth a first rounder. That's just bizarre to me.  People should be realistic about how useless Rivers has been.

Teams don't decline the 4th year option on a lottery pick very frequently.  New Orleans must be thrilled to clear his salary.  We should be getting compensated by them for taking him on.

What's his contract , 2 million ?  Why are they thrilled about clearing that ?

Low risk contract to take on, IMO.  22 years of age.  Get a coach in there that knows how to put him in a position to succeed.  Still really only a Senior in college, if that.

Even billionaires don't like paying millions for trash.

do you dislike the Rivers family or something?

What does it have to do with the Rivers family.  You seem awfully defensive of the guy.

He's had years in the league and just doesn't look like a serviceable pro who can make a difference on a team. Why doe it have to do with anything else? I don't like gunners who shoot under 40%.

He's played 165 games, so "years" is technically correct but just barely.

I just don't understand the venom behind declaring a 22 year old garbage and reacting with disgust to him coming to Boston.

A.  He's certainly better than Salmons at this point for this team.
B.  He doesn't have a problematic salary.
C.  He might get better with CBS.

Mike

When did pointing out that a lousy player is lousy somehow morph into "venom"?  Was it at the exact moment that the word "Celtics" became attached?

Plenty of people have remarked on Rivers not being any good.  Only a few act like Rivers peed in their cornflakes.  Can you tell the difference between these two statements?

"Rivers sucks but he's still young and if he can't get better, it doesn't cost us anything."

"Rivers sucks and always will suck and there's no possible way he will ever do anything but suck and no one should ever suggest anything different."

Mike

Rivers sucks.  If he wasn't reportedly heading to the Celtics, this would be a non-issue.  Because he's reportedly heading to the Celtics, some overly wound fans are acting as if pointing out the blatantly obvious is somehow an indication of a vendetta.

Yes, if the venom wasn't directed at Austin it would just flow to someone else, like it has to Green, Rondo, Bass, Smart, KO, Sully, Bradley, etc.

Mike

[crownontherocks]

Grizz poised to get Jeff Green/Russ Smith; Celts to get Tay Prince/Austin Rivers/Grizz first; Pelicans to get Quincy Pondexter/Grizz second

As my colleague @GwashNBAGlobe reported earlier tonight, Boston is already trying to move Austin Rivers. LIKELY in a separate deal, though

Stein

[piercetruth34]

To be fair to Rivers he probably does have a chance to play in the nba. Just not the style of player we are looking for.  Playing under Doc might be good for him.  He is not that athletic.  His defense and mindset suffers at times.  He shoots with 2 hands and dribbles the ball quite a bit.  There are players like that that become serviceable players in roles in the nba though.  Evan Turner isn't much different actually or guys like Kirk  Hinrich. I get not liking players like that but I don't know.