Sad state of affairs

[LarBrd33]

The OP is another person who fails the marshmallow test.

TP

[Chris22]

The OP is another person who fails the marshmallow test.

We know that Kelly Olynyk is soft as a marshmallow. Other than that.....

Sometimes you have to sacrifice instant gratification to succeed in the world.

[NYDan]

This year and this team is about collecting assets and evaluating young players. Probably next year too. It's not that hard to see that building a perennial contender requires long term planning, quality scouting and roster/cap flexibility, is it? Especially in absence of dumb luck, ie. the Cavs and their #1's. Better to tear it down and start from scratch than over pay for middling veterans to get bounced out of the playoffs but remain "relevant."

[Beat LA]

The OP is another person who fails the marshmallow test.

Huh?

[Nerf DPOY]

The OP is another person who fails the marshmallow test.

Huh?

Don't even bother. It's the stupidest most condescending demonstration ever about how patience pays off.

[guava_wrench]

History doesn't get you players. Irrelevant entitled talk.

[guava_wrench]

"I demand that we win now because we are the Celtics and it is my right" is not a good strategy for a GM.

[Beat LA]

History doesn't get you players. Irrelevant entitled talk.

Tell that to the Lakers.

[Beat LA]

The OP is another person who fails the marshmallow test.

Huh?

Don't even bother. It's the stupidest most condescending demonstration ever about how patience pays off.

Okay, thanks.

[mctyson]

TP for the thread, for sure.

I feel the same.

Seems that we have plenty of picks already, AND had a real shot at an entertaining season and run to the playoffs. I realize that doesn't help w/ draft picks, but it does help with the momentum and all around optimism within the organization.

Giving up Rondo for zilch has me truly depressed. The team is now luffing in the wind with nowhere to go. Seems like we should forfeit the rest of the games this year.

We could be winning while building young talent through the draft but we choose to depress ourselves and the franchise in the process. I guess you can't have the best of both worlds.

You do realize that we have 2 first round picks, a good young swingman (Crowder) and 13 million dollars of trade bait for Rondo, right?

[inverselock]

We had no stars.   We can't trade for one.   We have to draft one. 

Alternative is?   The corpse of KG and PP led by RR take us to 8th seed?

[Smokeeye123]

As a lifelong Celtics fan (51 yrs) it's hard to sit back and watch what's going on with this team.  I am one to always try to see the positive, but I can honestly say this is the first time I can't find any.  If you want to count 37 #1 draft picks as a positive then Ok, but even in 2007 when we lost 18 straight, there was still reason for optimism because we had a young budding superstar in Al Jeff and even Rondo, although it wasn't obvious then how good Rondo would be. We also had a cornerstone in all-star PP so I had at least a little hope that things would soon turn around. THIS train wreck of a team that Danny has put together...how the heck do we go from championship contender to this? I know our superstars were aging, but seriously this is the best Danny could do? Teams are adding productive pieces left and right and we trade for bodies just to release or trade again! We have nothing that even resembles 'star' talent much less superstar talent.  We have a coach who thinks what worked in college is going to work in the big leagues, which it wont. Totally different managing kids with no money that are trying to get to the next level then it is managing superstars that's getting direct deposits each week that's more than most of us make in a year! A supposed star that sulks, an overweight PF that shoots threes, a guard drafted at 6 to replace our superstar guard who doesn't know how to drive to the basket and settles for jumpers all game, a 6'3 2-guard who thinks he's Ray Allen, an outcast who was tossed into the starting point guard position because we have no one better, a 4 with a good shot and decent low post moves that's scared to shoot the ball and a center who was a backup at best as our most productive player. Just plain pathetic.

Forgive me, I'm just tired of this crap. We are the BOSTON CELTICS, a STAPLE in this league...The house that RED built and we're being laughed at by Raptor fans?

How did it get to this? SMDH....See you tonight at Indiana (waves and walks away with head down and hands in pockets)

I understand this sentiment but you have to realize it was either this or trying to be competitive and becoming the Nets and getting bounced in the first round every year.

By tanking and accumulating firsts Ainge is trying to GET that allstar you are talking about. In the next few years he will (hopefully) either draft or trade for a cornerstone franchise player and then we will begin grow and develop into a contender.

[Smokeeye123]

Think about how horrible the nets will be the next couple of years. And remember that we own their soul and all their picks are under our control for the next 3 years.

[freshinthehouse]

THIS train wreck of a team that Danny has put together...how the heck do we go from championship contender to this? I know our superstars were aging, but seriously this is the best Danny could do?

Forgive me, I'm just tired of this crap. We are the BOSTON CELTICS, a STAPLE in this league...The house that RED built and we're being laughed at by Raptor fans?

I remember the Celtics being terrible since I was about 12 except for the one season they overachieved and got destroyed by the Nets in the ECF....and I'm 32.  Ainge made them good for the only time in my adult life and when he took the team over they were worse than they are now by a long shot.  They were hopeless.

Now, we had a chance to dump KG (shell of himself), Pierce (still good but can't carry a team single handedly) for a murder's row of assets that don't really come into effect until the end of next season, when we start getting the Nets picks and dump Wallace's contract.  At the end of next season, we'll have like 30 million in cap space and a bunch of lottery picks.  We won't be good yet, but that's what you need to get good.  Getting good is something your team has to earn, it isn't something you're entitled to.

Do you even remember the last season with KG, Pierce and Rondo as our stars?  We came in 7th in the East and lost 4-2 to the Knicks.  That season was like 100x more depressing than watching our team rebuild.  I don't know what moves anybody could have done to keep the train rolling, but I wouldn't take back any of the moves to win a championship back and after that, I mean what star could we have added?  Josh Smith?

All I can think of when people get pessimistic like that is the "don't care how, I want it now!" part of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzr12gBrXA8

TP+++++!

The entitlement some fans have is mind-boggling.

This team is light years ahead of where it was in, say, 2002.  That was a team filled with bloated contacts that had first round and out written on them for the foreseeable future.

[chambers]

You lack patience young grasshopper.

Building true championship contenders requires draft picks and franchise changing players.

Without any of those players available in free agency or trade, Danny has no choice but to go to the draft.

With all these picks we are going to see wheeling and dealing when it comes to securing international players.
Danny's international scouting staff will be hunting down every single potential NBA star from the age of 15 upwards all over the world for the next 5 years.
In the mean time, our young core will develop and our own picks will take care of themselves.

A bit of luck wouldn't hurt in the lottery either.

What makes me laugh is that people talk about how 'Red wouldn't let this happen to our beloved team!'.
Red would have done EXACTLY the same- he would have been proud of the Brooklyn trade, proud of the Rondo trade. Jesus if some how Danny manages to get more than a first round pick for Jeff Green I'll be so stoked. Red would be too.

Danny just doesn't have the options that Red had. The NBA has changed but Danny is still thinking one step ahead of his opponents like all good GM's and poker players.

It's just time to build this baby up from scratch. I hope you've time to cross your fingers for the lottery because for the next few years we are going to be frontrunners for some special players.