What is most misused/abused term in NBA?

[timobusa]

"First one in the gym, last one out."

That irks me, 99% of players says that. So who really gets to the gym first and who really leaves last?

[jambr380]

I agree with all of the responses so far, but my first thought when clicking on the thread was 'rim protector'. It has become an overused term that basically just means a center who maintains good positioning (but doesn't necessarily get a lot of blocks). Thanks to sofutomyguya for providing that answer.

As for one that hasn't yet appeared, I'd have to throw in a player who has a lot of 'length'. I get it, the guy has long limbs. 

[Rakulp]

"First one in the gym, last one out."

That irks me, 99% of players says that. So who really gets to the gym first and who really leaves last?

Usually the guy with the keys.

 

Rak

[timobusa]

Wingspan.

Enforcer.

[timobusa]

"First one in the gym, last one out."

That irks me, 99% of players says that. So who really gets to the gym first and who really leaves last?

Usually the guy with the keys.

 

Rak

*badum tssss*

rekttttt

[hwangjini_1]

so as i see it, everyone hates the nba wherein folks seek assets with wing span so they can be enforcers and rim protectors, even though it would make others around them better, prevent tanking, and compliment 3 and d guys who could help teams be winners, like dallas is with rondo, while encouraging teammates to be the first in the gym and the last to leave?

 

[Ogaju]

so as i see it, everyone hates the nba wherein folks seek assets with wing span so they can be enforcers and rim protectors, even though it would make others around them better, prevent tanking, and compliment 3 and d guys who could help teams be winners, like dallas is with rondo, while encouraging teammates to be the first in the gym and the last to leave?

 

I see what you did! But you must agree with me because you did not use 'role player'.

[Ogaju]

It is also easy to confuse 'SG' for 'Small Guard' since 'SF' stands for 'Small Forward'.

If the guy who runs the team is designated the 'PG' or 'Point Guard'  shouldn't the guard that play off the ball be called the 'Off Guard' Calling him the shooting guard is wrong and confusing, and inaccurate. Wrong and inaccurate because everyone player shoots the ball. Confusing because it may explain why PGs such as Rondo refrain from shooting the ball. LOL!!

It was also not uncommon in times past to call the off guard the big guard because they were generally bigger than the point guards, which also meant that the PG was also referred to as SG for small guard further confusing SG with shooting guard.

I hope this post made sense, the Cabernet is kicking in.

[Gari]

XXX has the potential to be a ______.

[obnoxiousmime]

What's wrong with "rim protector"? It's more specific than "defensive big man" because some players are good at one-on-one defense or picking up rebounds but not necessarily altering or blocking shots on drives/shots around the basket. To me, that sounds like a very specific skill that statisticians have noticed to be an important part of having a good defense. Especially in today's NBA where teams rarely post up anymore, being a good one-on-one big defender like Perk isn't as critical a skill as it used to be.

I don't see anything wrong with 3 and D either. It's a valuable role player to have on a good team because it complements star wing players. On offense, having 3 pt. range creates enough spacing for your PG and star wing to operate. On defense, guarding the opposing team's best player lets your star conserve energy for his offensive game.

Obviously in a perfect world you'd have five all-stars all with multiple skills but how realistic is that? There are a lot of guys coming into the NBA who are athletic but find that they'll never have the handle or body control to be a force on offense. However, if they can practice this one skill of shooting 3s they can carve out a niche for themselves on a good team. Take Bruce Bowen for example. Guy was useless on offense in Boston, but developed a 3 pt. shot and fit into a role in SA.

Every team is different, but generally speaking, defensive players who can develop that shot can fit into a role in a lot of teams' lineups.

[Redz]

so as i see it, everyone hates the nba wherein folks seek assets with wing span so they can be enforcers and rim protectors, even though it would make others around them better, prevent tanking, and compliment 3 and d guys who could help teams be winners, like dallas is with rondo, while encouraging teammates to be the first in the gym and the last to leave?

 

you really gave "110% effort" on that one...clearly you're "basketball smart"

[sofutomygaha]

"First one in the gym, last one out."

That irks me, 99% of players says that. So who really gets to the gym first and who really leaves last?

I'm on board- good call by you. I want the actual data on this. I'm willing to bet that the first guy in and the last guy who leave are, 99 times out of 100, the fringe rotation players with no injuries, no groupies, no wife, no kids, and no money that are trying desperately to stick in the league. I'm guessing that Jordan Clarkson beats Kobe to the gym these days.

[sofutomygaha]

XXX has the potential to be a ______.

Don't undersell XXX, Gari. He might even have the potential to be a poor man's ______!

[sofutomygaha]

What's wrong with "rim protector"? It's more specific than "defensive big man" because some players are good at one-on-one defense or picking up rebounds but not necessarily altering or blocking shots on drives/shots around the basket. To me, that sounds like a very specific skill that statisticians have noticed to be an important part of having a good defense. Especially in today's NBA where teams rarely post up anymore, being a good one-on-one big defender like Perk isn't as critical a skill as it used to be.

I don't see anything wrong with 3 and D either. It's a valuable role player to have on a good team because it complements star wing players. On offense, having 3 pt. range creates enough spacing for your PG and star wing to operate. On defense, guarding the opposing team's best player lets your star conserve energy for his offensive game.

Obviously in a perfect world you'd have five all-stars all with multiple skills but how realistic is that? There are a lot of guys coming into the NBA who are athletic but find that they'll never have the handle or body control to be a force on offense. However, if they can practice this one skill of shooting 3s they can carve out a niche for themselves on a good team. Take Bruce Bowen for example. Guy was useless on offense in Boston, but developed a 3 pt. shot and fit into a role in SA.

Every team is different, but generally speaking, defensive players who can develop that shot can fit into a role in a lot of teams' lineups.

I hear you, I do, but we're talking about overuse and abuse. My view is that it's come to the point where rim protection has such cache that good defensive bigs are constantly underrated or even viewed as fatally flawed because if they don't make jump-and-swat plays like JaVale McGee. Meanwhile, mediocre positional defensive bigs who get off their feet and stuff a dunk every once in a while are over-praised and even viewed as the cornerstones of their defenses.

[hwangjini_1]

so as i see it, everyone hates the nba wherein folks seek assets with wing span so they can be enforcers and rim protectors, even though it would make others around them better, prevent tanking, and compliment 3 and d guys who could help teams be winners, like dallas is with rondo, while encouraging teammates, even role players, to be the first in the gym and the last to leave?

 

I see what you did! But you must agree with me because you did not use 'role player'.

all fixed now.