Why do people keep talking about trading Avery Bradley

[Shamrocker]

To me Bradley is following a similar path to Glen Davis, they both found success doing hustle things (such as Bradley cutting to the hoop and Davis crashing the offensive glass) and then they fell in love with the jumpshot and adbandonded what got them their minutes in the first place, the little things they did.

tp this i think is an important factor
instead of taking his good skill set (defense) and adding to it, the defense has been pulled back and while the jumper has improved I would say nothing else has
if its me and i'm making millions i'd pay to go to summer guard camp and learn ball handling etc

 I would have never suspected AB to be the type of player to coast after inking a new deal. Alas, I was wrong. He's regressed from last year, and is a shell of the 2012 AB...Remember him? He hustled, played incredible on-ball defense, and hit timely shots. I want him back.

[kozlodoev]

yeah but saying that Bradley's D has gotten much worse because he can not shutdown Harden, Wall and the likes for the entire game is not fair. I don't see anyone in the league do that atm.

He hasn't been able to shut down anyone for years now.

[hwangjini_1]

yeah but saying that Bradley's D has gotten much worse because he can not shutdown Harden, Wall and the likes for the entire game is not fair. I don't see anyone in the league do that atm.

He hasn't been able to shut down anyone for years now.

perhaps, though another, at least complicating explanation is possible - CBS' defensive scheme. after reading a piece earlier on cb about the celtics and their "ice" defense it was brought out that guards are supposed to direct/force attacking players on PnR to the baseline and then let the big man help defend the offensive player, thereby forcing a low percentage 2 point shot.

this means that bradley, at CBS direction, is not playing defense in the same way he was a few years ago, at least partly because of the team's defensive scheme. he is not being called upon to take on an opponent one-on-one defensively as may have been the case earlier in his career.

i am not saying you are wrong on bradley, koz, only that there may be another factor that is at play here.

[GzUP617]

  I'm of the notion we need to extend Bradley another 3 years at the same rate.

  Amirightoramiright ?

[kozlodoev]

perhaps, though another, at least complicating explanation is possible - CBS' defensive scheme. after reading a piece earlier on cb about the celtics and their "ice" defense it was brought out that guards are supposed to direct/force attacking players on PnR to the baseline and then let the big man help defend the offensive player, thereby forcing a low percentage 2 point shot.

Ow, THAT's what he's trying to do? Sorry, it's kind of hard to tell by observing in-game results.

Joking aside (and sadly, I'm only half-joking), how is this even different from what the Celtics were doing with Doc? The lifeline of his defensive philosophy was to limit the other team to long 2s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0FTjFbMNQU

[BDeCosta26]

Because he is mediocre and not worth his contract. These guys are generally the 8th or 9th man in a rotation. He is a very underwhelming number 2. When Jeff Green is a better offensive player than you it shows where you truly stand.

The whole team stands below Jeff Green on offense except for maybe Olynyk on a good day.

Maybe Olynyk on the best day of his life. Jeff Green is by far our best offensive player. This year he's proven he could be a legit third or fourth banana on a contending team. We don't have anyone else we could say that about.

[littleteapot]

So far no one has argued

1 - Why another team would view Bradley as an asset and would WANT him.

or

2 - Why it is worth it for us to package him with another asset.

If you don't think one of these two things is true, I don't see how you could want to trade him.

[mctyson]

This whole thread sounds a lot like the discussion when DA resigned Jeff Green.

Everyone said he was an overpaid roleplayer.  You don't hear a peep from them now.

[greece66]

This whole thread sounds a lot like the discussion when DA resigned Jeff Green.

Everyone said he was an overpaid roleplayer.  You don't hear a peep from them now.

Agree. 

[SHAQATTACK]

  I do not think we will get much for him.

That's about the long and short of it.   

[lour]

Bradley hasn't been living up to his potential in a while. If I recall correctly, his hype coming out of college was that he was a great athlete. Doc was able to help him become the "Elite" defender he is today. I still think he is one of the best on-ball defenders in the league but with the direction I believe this team is headed, we don't have room to start 2 defensive minded guards (AB + Smart). So yes, I have been talking about trading AB but at this point, his value is no where near as high as it was before.

[Jonny CC]

So far no one has argued

1 - Why another team would view Bradley as an asset and would WANT him.

or

2 - Why it is worth it for us to package him with another asset.

If you don't think one of these two things is true, I don't see how you could want to trade him.

A team may want him if it gives them the opportunity for addition by subtraction...see Lance Stephenson.

[P stoff]

yep johnny CC... trading Bradley will get Young/Turner/Smart more playing time. Bradley's lack of passing/ball handling makes him unlikely to be a starter on many teams...and is simply going tohold back development of others on this team.

he could be useful off the bench on a contender (Dallas, PHO or OKC) who need to get better on defense.

[Rosco917]

Bradley hasn't been living up to his potential in a while. If I recall correctly, his hype coming out of college was that he was a great athlete. Doc was able to help him become the "Elite" defender he is today. I still think he is one of the best on-ball defenders in the league but with the direction I believe this team is headed, we don't have room to start 2 defensive minded guards (AB + Smart). So yes, I have been talking about trading AB but at this point, his value is no where near as high as it was before.

I hear that "on ball defender" thing all the time. And he is a real good, hard working on ball defender, mostly on the opposing teams point guard. The problem is when he has to guard the opposing teams shooting guard, in the half court, he is not as capable of controlling a Harden, or a Westbrook, or for that matter many bigger 2's, mostly because of his size, he's only 180 lb. and 6-2.

He's not a bad guy to have off the bench, but not worth the starter money he gets.  Sooner or later he will have to be replaced. 

[LarBrd33]

i think trading Bradley makes sense.  He's an overpaid role player.

Question is... does he have negative or positive trade value?  That contract might push him into negative territory.