Is Rondo more of a role player?

[Rondo9]

 Do you feel that Rondo is more of a role player than an All Star/leader? That he's not as good as Celtic fans thought he was and that he's one of the worst starters in the league? Do you think that Rondo is holding this team's future back and that he's not the leader that you thought he was going to be?

I'm asking because the Celtics are at crossroads with Rondo and we all know how divisive he is around here. What came to my attention was that people are feeling that he's role player now (even one guy comaparing him to Reggie Evans! Though I may need to re read what he wrote for context.) Well if Rondo is role player then the Celtics should just let him go or trade him since he really shouldn't be here. However there are others who still insist that he's a star who's just stuck on a bad team and feels that he should stay since there may not be any stars until 2016 or something.

So what say you, good people of Celticsblog?

[Eigild]

You can't build a team around him. That's how I see it in these early stages of the C's rebuild mission. He's great in combination with some Allstar quality wings, who can shoot the 3 and a Big man like Garnett, who can cover up for his subpar one-on-one defense and at the same time can read his superb mindset on offense.
But with this depleted Celtics roster... his (esp. psychologically) flaws make him look worse than he actually is.

[2short]

Put him in whatever order you want for top pg in the league.  He cannot be considered a role player.  If you are leading the nba in assists you are not a role player.  If you make everyone on the roster look better you guessed it….not a a role player.

[droopdog7]

Rondo is in the 45-50 range in the league.  So not a star in my eyes.

[Monkhouse]

Do you feel that Rondo is more of a role player than an All Star/leader? That he's not as good as Celtic fans thought he was and that he's one of the worst starters in the league? Do you think that Rondo is holding this team's future back and that he's not the leader that you thought he was going to be?

I'm asking because the Celtics are at crossroads with Rondo and we all know how divisive he is around here. What came to my attention was that people are feeling that he's role player now (even one guy comaparing him to Reggie Evans! Though I may need to re read what he wrote for context.) Well if Rondo is role player then the Celtics should just let him go or trade him since he really shouldn't be here. However there are others who still insist that he's a star who's just stuck on a bad team and feels that he should stay since there may not be any stars until 2016 or something.

So what say you, good people of Celticsblog?

Assist leader, great rebounder, and makes everyone better by opening lanes by driving...

Rondo has lost a step, but our roster is still trashy.. Lets wait till we get a decent supporting cast around Rondo first.

[Eddie20]

Yeah, probably. Rondo's game is so flawed that he needs specific player types around him in order to elevate his game. That's not a star. To me, a star is able to elevate their game and play to their potential regardless of the players around them. Teammates obviously influence overfall team success, but the individual success of a star should never be so dependent on teammates.

So Rondo is a high level role player who's flashiness and past success playing along stars causes many to overrate his true actual abilities.

[mctyson]

No, but I don't think we are every going to see the same player we did pre-ACL injury. 

His value is dropping fast.

[deekhead]

Yeah, probably. Rondo's game is so flawed that he needs specific player types around him in order to elevate his game. That's not a star. To me, a star is able to elevate their game and play to their potential regardless of the players around them. Teammates obviously influence overfall team success, but the individual success of a star should never be so dependent on teammates.

So Rondo is a high level role player who's flashiness and past success playing along stars causes many to overrate his true actual abilities.

Turns out that Rondo isn't a star at all.

He's morphed into a moon, an inert mass, needing star-power around him in order to shine.

deek

[dreamgreen]

He needs scorers to be the best he can be, he can do everything on the court to make the team better but score. Unfortunately we desperately need a scorer, all you have to do is go back to the second Wizards game when Smart scored from the PG spot it changes the entire team/game. 

[ssspence]

Rondo's an excellent player. He is not a 'star'. He can be a key building block, but he's not a franchise player.

He's the best player on a team whose offense sets up absolutely perfectly for him, and the results are lottery worthy. Needs to be a second or likely third fiddle for his team to win.

[deekhead]

He needs scorers to be the best he can be, he can do everything on the court to make the team better but score. Unfortunately we desperately need a scorer, all you have to do is go back to the second Wizards game when Smart scored from the PG spot it changes the entire team/game.

Indeed.

Smart is the  emerging star.... he changes the entire game for sure with his energy.

Not the cold/inert/lifeless Rondo riding the bench.

deek

[Rondo9]

He needs scorers to be the best he can be, he can do everything on the court to make the team better but score. Unfortunately we desperately need a scorer, all you have to do is go back to the second Wizards game when Smart scored from the PG spot it changes the entire team/game.

Indeed.

Smart is the  emerging star.... he changes the entire game for sure with his energy.

Not the cold/inert/lifeless Rondo riding the bench.

deek

What about the other wizards game where rondo was the key to victory

[Endless Paradise]

Rondo's an excellent player. He is not a 'star'. He can be a key building block, but he's not a franchise player.

He's the best player on a team whose offense sets up absolutely perfectly for him, and the results are lottery worthy. Needs to be a second or likely third fiddle for his team to win.

Pretty much this.

[Clench123]

Being shielded by the big 3 for years did a diservice to how his talent was perceived and judged by fans and around the league.  He's a very talented player but not nearly as talented as most people thought (me included).

[CFAN38]

Rondo is an all-star caliber role player. Meaning his game is complementary and he cant be the focal point of a winning team. He isn't in bad company in this distinction. Joakim Noah is the same type of player just at a different position. They are both very very good at a lot of facets of the game but lack the skill set to truly dominate as a alpha player on a team. In his prime KG was clearly a super star but he was even more a super star role player in his playing style. Others that I feel held this distinction of all-star role players in recent memory would be Shawn Marion, Ben Wallace, and Rodman.